Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Of course, this is the only way the world can go round. Didn't you know? If it ain't broke fix it.🙂Yes..(clearing throat).....(tilts head back)....(smile's)
Batman is going to win. For as his record show he does not lose 🙂 😆 and he adapts to his opponents style of fighting like a hungry pride of lions that just caught the sent of a wounded animal. And we both know that batman is the better fighter. And he has an untarnish record of beating people, who he should not be able to stand with in the same room. And this room ain't big enough.🙂😆. ooh and spiderman best punch is not going to kill batman because batman can take it thank's to that suit of his. that he created. I most say that suit of batman cancels out spiderman's superhuman strength. Quit nicely.
Is that all?
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well I am telling you that batman can adapt to spidy's fighting style. Well I see where you are coming from with the prep time because batman has used this time in order to win most of his major league battles. However I do not think that spiderman's fighting is going to be too bizarre for batman not to be able to adapt. On the spot. Heck using the drunken arts (Zui Ba Xian Quan) instead of moving in a straight line you move around in circles thus confusing you opponent, that is it is hard to know where they are going to strike. Now this is where spiderman's spidersence is going to help him alot and a little backup by his super strength. Beside we all do respect..spiderman has never encountered a soul as deceptive,resourceful, cunning, a big...big...cheat, and a paranoia to end all paranoia's all rolled in one.So it is not logical for people like DD or batman to be able to put a hurting to people like spiderman. How about mantis before she became all powerful. And her fighting style specialise on pressure points.
batman is going to be able to adapt to spiderman's fighting.
Again spiderman's most powerful punch will not be able to kill batman, let alone kO him, if the shot connected to batman's jaw ohhh man batman has a very bad bad bad headache if not batman survive. Because of the suit.taken from StrawNilla....Okay, if the Batmobile is coming towards Spidey, Spidey's early-warning Spider sense will have him ready to leap over the 'mobile before it gets too close. And if Bats ejects out.... Batman is not going to be leaving the car unless it is compromise. If batman can win using that car of his, he is going to use it. Spiderman is going to escape the blast, enough not to kill him but enough to really do damage.
All I got to say for this is batman carries the best of every thing, planes, cars, boats, weapons. For example lets say.....if the police had an ultimate Nullifier well batman will probably have an Ultimate Nullifier x10. So using the same logic you have got to know that the batmobile exploding is going to be a big bang. Besides what about the missiles, machine guns, an other type of projectiles all stuffed in the car.
And I am saying on the points of DD and Batman that they do not possess abilities to Spidey's caliber, and DD is left at a greater disadvantage than Batman for he does not have the tech needed to deal with Spidey in a prepped fight and would be overwhelmed on both non prep and prep accounts. Just look at his abilities, Spidey could neutralize all of DD's abilties and make them obsoulete, Spidey's much stronger, faster, tougher, versatile, perceptive, etc. There's virtually nothing DD can do to Spidey, not to knock DD, but for every ability DD has Spidey has it in greater abundance. And as for Batman, the only advanatge he would have that DD would have in a non-prep/prep fight against Spidey is more tech, but in a non-prep fight Bats can't prepare for, he won't have the time needed to ready himself for Spidey's versatility and superhuman abilities that Bats doesn't have and are, what's worse, collaborated into a fighting style that I can pretty much guarantee Bats has never come across.
And I've already made clear on where I stand on the argument of whether or not Bats can adapt to Spidey's style of fighting, but I will be redundant in saying that all it takes is a powerful enough shot to the jaw to rattle Batman's skull enough for Spidey to take the victory via concussion. If Spidey comes to the conclusion that it will have to come to this, he'll more than likely resort to it and pull it off.
As I've said, if Batman is going to use the ol' explosion trick and eject from the Batmobile in time, Spidey can certainly clear the explosion radius and have that superhuman durabilty of his compensate for what would have otherwise potentially been critical damage. And when it comes down to that, Spidey will still be able to take the fight to Batman, and he can alternate attacks in order to find what will exploit Batman's jaw, including the old fashioned right hook (most likely).
And I'm not knocking Batman's tech, but all I'm saying is that using your logic (Batman utilizing the explosion), Spidey could most certainly clear alot of ground consisted of the blast radius, enough so to withstand the force of the blast without critical injury. And as for what would happen with the machine gun fire and missiles stored inside the Batmobile, assuming that Spidey concentrates on the spider sense (and he is almost everytime it goes off) he could dodge the machine gun fire (he does this routinely), and with extreme concentration and focus on trusting his spider sense to locate the direction in which the missiles are coming (and if he's far enough way) he could dodge those to. And the explosions brought about them can be withstood by someone like Spidey (esp. if he leaps away from the blast site).
Originally posted by StrawNilla
Batman cannot adapt to Spidey's fighting style. He can't make up for what he doesn't have, i.e. superhuman strength, speed, agility, durability, equilibrium, elasticity, etc. Spidey doesn't fight using any orthodox or familiar style, that's a point for Spidey. Spidey is versatile and can fight both on the ground and aerially, using his elasticity, he can attack from multiple angles at a time, another point for Spidey. Seeing as Spidey can attack at multiple angles and is partial to both bobbing and weaving and hth combat (he has the overbearing physical advantage), Spidey can exploit Batman's unprotected jaw rather easily, another point for Spidey. Spidey has webbing strong enough to support collapsing buildings and can use this from long ranges and at varied times, another point for Spidey. Spidey has a nigh-unlimited supply of this webbing, another point for Spidey. Spidey's agility and reflexes coupled in with his speed and pre-cog will help him avoid projectiles, another point for Spidey. Perhapes Batman's greatest weapon in an non-prep fight (assuming he can use it), the Batmobile, is avoidable..esp. so for someone with the collaboration of Spidey's abilites, another point for Spidey. Spidey leaves Batman at a good number of disadvantages, esp. in a non-prep fight, and Spidey could exploit a number of kinks in Batman's arms including neutralizing the use of projectiles and besting Batman in strength assuming the battle came down to physicality versus physicality or the battle becomes one where the two fight in hth combat period.And I am saying on the points of DD and Batman that they do not possess abilities to Spidey's caliber, and DD is left at a greater disadvantage than Batman for he does not have the tech needed to deal with Spidey in a prepped fight and would be overwhelmed on both non prep and prep accounts. Just look at his abilities, Spidey could neutralize all of DD's abilties and make them obsoulete, Spidey's much stronger, faster, tougher, versatile, perceptive, etc. There's virtually nothing DD can do to Spidey, not to knock DD, but for every ability DD has Spidey has it in greater abundance. And as for Batman, the only advanatge he would have that DD would have in a non-prep/prep fight against Spidey is more tech, but in a non-prep fight Bats can't prepare for, he won't have the time needed to ready himself for Spidey's versatility and superhuman abilities that Bats doesn't have and are, what's worse, collaborated into a fighting style that I can pretty much guarantee Bats has never come across.
And I've already made clear on where I stand on the argument of whether or not Bats can adapt to Spidey's style of fighting, but I will be redundant in saying that all it takes is a powerful enough shot to the jaw to rattle Batman's skull enough for Spidey to take the victory via concussion. If Spidey comes to the conclusion that it will have to come to this, he'll more than likely resort to it and pull it off.
As I've said, if Batman is going to use the ol' explosion trick and eject from the Batmobile in time, Spidey can certainly clear the explosion radius and have that superhuman durabilty of his compensate for what would have otherwise potentially been critical damage. And when it comes down to that, Spidey will still be able to take the fight to Batman, and he can alternate attacks in order to find what will exploit Batman's jaw, including the old fashioned right hook (most likely).
And I'm not knocking Batman's tech, but all I'm saying is that using your logic (Batman utilizing the explosion), Spidey could most certainly clear alot of ground consisted of the blast radius, enough so to withstand the force of the blast without critical injury. And as for what would happen with the machine gun fire and missiles stored inside the Batmobile, assuming that Spidey concentrates on the spider sense (and he is almost everytime it goes off) he could dodge the machine gun fire (he does this routinely), and with extreme concentration and focus on trusting his spider sense to locate the direction in which the missiles are coming (and if he's far enough way) he could dodge those to. And the explosions brought about them can be withstood by someone like Spidey (esp. if he leaps away from the blast site).
GOOD POST! 😮💨
Originally posted by StrawNilla
Batman cannot adapt to Spidey's fighting style. He can't make up for what he doesn't have, i.e. superhuman strength, speed, agility, durability, equilibrium, elasticity, etc. Spidey doesn't fight using any orthodox or familiar style, that's a point for Spidey. Spidey is versatile and can fight both on the ground and aerially, using his elasticity, he can attack from multiple angles at a time, another point for Spidey. Seeing as Spidey can attack at multiple angles and is partial to both bobbing and weaving and hth combat (he has the overbearing physical advantage), Spidey can exploit Batman's unprotected jaw rather easily, another point for Spidey. Spidey has webbing strong enough to support collapsing buildings and can use this from long ranges and at varied times, another point for Spidey. Spidey has a nigh-unlimited supply of this webbing, another point for Spidey. Spidey's agility and reflexes coupled in with his speed and pre-cog will help him avoid projectiles, another point for Spidey. Perhapes Batman's greatest weapon in an non-prep fight (assuming he can use it), the Batmobile, is avoidable..esp. so for someone with the collaboration of Spidey's abilites, another point for Spidey. Spidey leaves Batman at a good number of disadvantages, esp. in a non-prep fight, and Spidey could exploit a number of kinks in Batman's arms including neutralizing the use of projectiles and besting Batman in strength assuming the battle came down to physicality versus physicality or the battle becomes one where the two fight in hth combat period.
I guess this one is just that batman can not adapt to spiderman's fighting style. Well I beg to differ. (superhuman strength is already out of the equation)- speed, agility, durability, equilibrium, elasticity, make up for nothing because batman has away around each and every one of those things, this is a point for batman. Batman has adapted to different fighting styles over the past and one more is not going to make a difference. Case in point the white martians hunted batman and he came up with a solution right there and then....effectively switching his fighting style to his advantage. (and for your information batman did not know these people who were chasing him were white martians he deduced it.) Spiderman's fighting style may be unique but with batman there is nothing a well placed flash bang, stunned grenades, or gas wouldn't take care off. If the battle goes to physicality, yes it falls mainly in spiderman's court. But Power is not everything when faced with a great martial artist. Case in point batman could not follow the movements of another martial artist. Know what he did....he activated his own spider-sense...he feeled the vibrations of the air around him so as to follow where his opponent is going to attack. See why I can't give the physicality test completely to spiderman.
And I am saying on the points of DD and Batman that they do not possess abilities to Spidey's caliber, and DD is left at a greater disadvantage than Batman for he does not have the tech needed to deal with Spidey in a prepped fight and would be overwhelmed on both non prep and prep accounts. Just look at his abilities, Spidey could neutralize all of DD's abilties and make them obsoulete, Spidey's much stronger, faster, tougher, versatile, perceptive, etc. There's virtually nothing DD can do to Spidey, not to knock DD, but for every ability DD has Spidey has it in greater abundance. And as for Batman, the only advanatge he would have that DD would have in a non-prep/prep fight against Spidey is more tech, but in a non-prep fight Bats can't prepare for, he won't have the time needed to ready himself for Spidey's versatility and superhuman abilities that Bats doesn't have and are, what's worse, collaborated into a fighting style that I can pretty much guarantee Bats has never come across.
taken from strawnilla.....DD is left at a greater disadvantage than Batman for he does not have the tech needed to deal with Spidey in a prepped fight and would be overwhelmed on both non prep and prep accounts......I wish this was true the fact of the matter is it ain't. For as Jinzin and Mainstream have pointed out and shown that DD as got the better of spiderman on more than one occasion. taken from strawnilla....Spidey's much stronger, faster, tougher, versatile, perceptive, etc. .....this did not spot DD from putting down the symbiont spiderman did it.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
And I've already made clear on where I stand on the argument of whether or not Bats can adapt to Spidey's style of fighting, but I will be redundant in saying that all it takes is a powerful enough shot to the jaw to rattle Batman's skull enough for Spidey to take the victory via concussion. If Spidey comes to the conclusion that it will have to come to this, he'll more than likely resort to it and pull it off.
You have made it clear were you stand on batman not being able to adapt to spiderman's fighting style. And as you know I have been singing that batman is going to adapt to spiderman's fighting style. I am just going on batman's history on this particular subject. If he has been doing this for this long what are the probability of him doing it again, I tell you what....the probability is very very high.
As I've said, if Batman is going to use the ol' explosion trick and eject from the Batmobile in time, Spidey can certainly clear the explosion radius and have that superhuman durabilty of his compensate for what would have otherwise potentially been critical damage. And when it comes down to that, Spidey will still be able to take the fight to Batman, and he can alternate attacks in order to find what will exploit Batman's jaw, including the old fashioned right hook (most likely).
Batman uses the old explosion trick if at any time spiderman has immobilised the batmobile and is getting ready to flip the car. Which as we know spiderman is at ground zero. He is not going to be fast enough to clear the blast radius, with all the ammunition that is inside the car. And he is going to get hurt but not killed.
And I'm not knocking Batman's tech, but all I'm saying is that using your logic (Batman utilizing the explosion), Spidey could most certainly clear alot of ground consisted of the blast radius, enough so to withstand the force of the blast without critical injury. And as for what would happen with the machine gun fire and missiles stored inside the Batmobile, assuming that Spidey concentrates on the spider sense (and he is almost every time it goes off) he could dodge the machine gun fire (he does this routinely), and with extreme concentration and focus on trusting his spider sense to locate the direction in which the missiles are coming (and if he's far enough way) he could dodge those to. And the explosions brought about them can be withstood by someone like Spidey (esp. if he leaps away from the blast site).
taken from strawnilla....Spidey could most certainly clear alot of ground consisted of the blast radius, enough so to withstand the force of the blast without critical injury.......Spidey is at ground zero, he gets hurt by the blast. Even factoring the spider-sense he is not going to be fast enough.
taken from strawinlla...And as for what would happen with the machine gun fire and missiles stored inside the Batmobile, assuming that Spidey concentrates on the spider sense (and he is almost every time it goes off) he could dodge the machine gun fire (he does this routinely), and with extreme concentration and focus on trusting his spider sense to locate the direction in which the missiles are coming (and if he's far enough way) he could dodge those to. And the explosions brought about them can be withstood by someone like Spidey (esp. if he leaps away from the blast site).........There is something wrong here you have spiderman doing one, two many things at the same time. The probability is too high. You have spiderman concentrating on the missiles trying to locate them and you also have him concentrating on the bullets of a random machine gun fire, what about his surroundings, the debris that are to get kicked up, again you have spiderman doing way to many stuff. Spiderman gets hurt.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
Btw, lifeisaglitch let me just say that you're one of the few people I've enjoyed debating with on this thread.
Same Here.....same here
Broke this post in two...original would have been two long...considering my rebuttal method.
This is pathetic. Please explain how the "Batmobile" is something Batman regularly carries on him. The reasoning that it is part of his "character" is flawed. The Batmobile is part of the BATCAVE! The Batcave is moreso a part of Batmans character. Does he usually carry the batcave on him?
The determination to bring tanks and planes to this fight just further says to me that Batman is outclassed. 😮💨
And all this talk of adaptation goes both ways. Spidey has adapted to far more powerful characters as well. The problem for Batman is that when it comes to H2H he is VASTLY dwarfed in strength and inferior in manueverability as well.
Originally posted by The MISTERI imagine they're refering to the remote control that's strapped to batman's wrist, that contacts his bat-vehicles remotely
This is pathetic. Please explain how the "Batmobile" is something Batman regularly carries on him. The reasoning that it is part of his "character" is flawed. The Batmobile is part of the BATCAVE! The Batcave is moreso a part of Batmans character. Does he usually carry the batcave on him?
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I guess this one is just that batman can not adapt to spiderman's fighting style.Well I beg to differ. (superhuman strength is already out of the equation)- speed, agility, durability, equilibrium, elasticity, make up for nothing because batman has away around each and every one of those things,
Yeah, it's nice to say; but you really should have a way to back statements like that up.
this is a point for batman. Batman has adapted to different fighting styles over the past and one more is not going to make a difference.
And Spidey can't adapt to Batman's fighting style? After thousands of battles? I think you're selling him short here.
Case in point the white martians hunted batman and he came up with a solution right there and then....effectively switching his fighting style to his advantage. (and for your information batman did not know these people who were chasing him were white martians he deduced it.) Spiderman's fighting style may be unique but with batman there is nothing a well placed flash bang, stunned grenades, or gas wouldn't take care off.
There is nothing a well placed punch, kick, web shot, anything from Spiderman wouldn't take care of.
If the battle goes to physicality, yes it falls mainly in spiderman's court. But Power is not everything when faced with a great martial artist. Case in point batman could not follow the movements of another martial artist. Know what he did....he activated his own spider-sense...he feeled the vibrations of the air around him so as to follow where his opponent is going to attack. See why I can't give the physicality test completely to spiderman.
Martial arts are not everything when facing 10 tons of brute strength. I can't see Batman blocking a hit like that without flying or taking damage. And Batman doesn't have enough physical strength parry a blow like that either. Whether people like it or not, Batman has his limitations.
taken from strawnilla.....DD is left at a greater disadvantage than Batman for he does not have the tech needed to deal with Spidey in a prepped fight and would be overwhelmed on both non prep and prep accounts......I wish this was true the fact of the matter is it ain't. For as Jinzin and Mainstream have pointed out and shown that DD as got the better of spiderman on more than one occasion. taken from strawnilla....Spidey's much stronger, faster, tougher, versatile, perceptive, etc. .....this did not spot DD from putting down the symbiont spiderman did it.
Batman has lost a bunch of times too; a lot of them to guys who Spiderman would chump.