Batman vs Spiderman

Started by CorderaMitchell343 pages

No no, I love batman and fully understand what you are saying, but that was in regard to simple fighting technique which wouldn't work because spidey's stats are too much.

Spidey matches bats in intelligence and resourefullness more or less, however spidey only really loses in gadgetry, batscould put up a nice fight,but not for long more than likely, however they would not know enough about each other and wouldn't matter,as spidey would close the gap. He just compensates for all of batscounters. Because not only is he powerful,fast, but resourseful as well.

It's not that I don't understand the point that you're trying to make. I'm just trying to justify polls in general.

You're not saying that the opinion of the community is worthless are you? I mean, your posts are pretty much taking a dump on voting. I could make your same arguement for democracy being a sham.

I'd like to believe that if the poll favored Batman and someone mentioned it as a point that you'd argue against the poll. But I think you motivation for arguing against it is the simple fact that it favors Spiderman.

The DC/Marvel vote had many variables; the largest being the fans particular loyalty to a comic book company. Think about how the people were looking at it, was it just Wolverine vs Lobo? Or was it Marvel comics versus DC comics?

Originally posted by 8bitChris
It's not that I don't understand the point that you're trying to make. I'm just trying to justify polls in general.
They're popularity contests. Go look at the cyber vs deathstroke vs spiderman thread.

Deathstroke is supposedly fast enough and calculating enough to deal with the flash. (there is a thread with scans from a fight in another thread.
and tyet spiderman is ahead in the poles?

Originally posted by 8bitChris
You're not saying that the opinion of the community is worthless are you?
I'm saying that the opinions of many are not to be taken as evidence. Merely that which they are opinions.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
I mean, your posts are pretty much taking a dump on voting. I could make your same arguement for democracy being a sham.
It is. People think that democracy if fair but it's really not, its the wants of the majority outweighing the wants and needs of the minority.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
I'd like to believe that if the poll favored Batman and someone mentioned it as a point that you'd argue against the poll.
Of course I would, I argue against the polls who ever the two characters are. Doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
But I think you motivation for arguing against it is the simple fact that it favors Spiderman.
No, just because it's ad populem.

Originally posted by 8bitChris
The DC/Marvel vote had many variables; the largest being the fans particular loyalty to a comic book company. Think about how the people were looking at it, was it just Wolverine vs Lobo? Or was it Marvel comics versus DC comics?
Each one was for the individual fight. Otherwise Hulk would have beaten superman, Jubilee robin. etc. etc. .

Well a good people that post their opinions, don't place their opinions, but many do read the stuff, and many said that Deathstroke was the weak link.

Batman and Wolvie are popular and beat lobo and hulk go figure.lol

Spider-man wins.

"It is. People think that democracy if fair but it's really not, its the wants of the majority outweighing the wants and needs of the minority."

You have any suggestions for a replacement? I can guarantee there arn't any better choices.

Polls arn't completely popularity contests, whether you like it or not. Evidence is in the fact that if the poll were Galactus vs. Spiderman, there is no chance in hell Spiderman would win.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
You created the "Polar Bear" anology..and now you are calling it pointless? The only thing you've managed to "shoot" down is your own argument and credability my friend..😆😆😆

I created the analagy, not the game.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Everything huh ?

Everything but the outcome of the polls. Seems that the majority is disagreeing with you, I'm afraid...

(No, don't tell me, they are all fanboys 🙄 )

The majority is misinformed. Votes have done bad in the past.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No no, I love batman and fully understand what you are saying, but that was in regard to simple fighting technique which wouldn't work because spidey's stats are too much.

Spidey matches bats in intelligence and resourefullness more or less, however spidey only really loses in gadgetry, batscould put up a nice fight,but not for long more than likely, however they would not know enough about each other and wouldn't matter,as spidey would close the gap. He just compensates for all of batscounters. Because not only is he powerful,fast, but resourseful as well.

Batman's fighting technique not good enough to hurt Spidey?

I seem to recall Scorpion being more resilient than spidey...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Well a good people that post their opinions, don't place their opinions, but many do read the stuff, and many said that Deathstroke was the weak link.

Batman and Wolvie are popular and beat lobo and hulk go figure.lol

Did you read the right thread?

Originally posted by 8bitChris
"It is. People think that democracy if fair but it's really not, its the wants of the majority outweighing the wants and needs of the minority."

You have any suggestions for a replacement? I can guarantee there arn't any better choices.

Polls arn't completely popularity contests, whether you like it or not. Evidence is in the fact that if the poll were Galactus vs. Spiderman, there is no chance in hell Spiderman would win.

You said it yourself, not completely, so you admit that there is a taint of popularity in polls.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Batman's fighting technique not good enough to hurt Spidey?

I seem to recall Scorpion being more resilient than spidey...


Stronger yes. Smarter, no. He has an extremely thin skin when it comes to insults. Scorps B-list. High B-list, but still B-list...

What crossover is that?

In terms of powerlevels, I'd have to say most crossovers are crap. Especially cross-company crossovers. (i.e. Batman defeats Carnage... with his bare hands and Spider-man K.O.s Superman.)

spiderman hung with a depowered AND weakened superman......I don't remember him KOing the guy though....although I haven't read that in some time now...

but seriously smarter? who cares batman still has the advantage there...so the point is moot at best....

marvel/dc ALL ACCESS number 3

Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
Stronger yes. Smarter, no. He has an extremely thin skin when it comes to insults. Scorps B-list. High B-list, but still B-list...

What crossover is that?

In terms of powerlevels, I'd have to say most crossovers are crap. Especially cross-company crossovers. (i.e. Batman defeats Carnage... with his bare hands and Spider-man K.O.s Superman.)

Either way, I was referring to the durability fo the character, nothing more.

well we ALLLL know how batman has nNEVER been able to beat characters of higher durability....especially ones that physically outclass him in every aspect....especially ones with bug powers...oh wait......nevermind...

I've given this current argument a lot of thought.....seems to me that the Batman's fans argument about who would win this fight hinges on the fact that he's batgod and he never loses....despite the fact that spidey is superior to him in every conceivable way....So lets say for arguments sake that Bats wins this match which according to DC he may do cos he never loses and could take on god himself given enough prep time (last part is said in the most sarcastic tone of voice that i can manage without hurting myself) thou i give him a 5 percent chance of actually doing said feat......Here's my argument....Batman may well manage to defeat spidey but would never be able to kill him cos spidey is the King of escapes.....thou he has been defeated before by far better than the likes of bats, he has manage to suvive before and will undoubtable in this case as well....now heres using the batman fans argument against them....spidey is the man when it comes to rematches....take him down and hell come back tougher than before with a plan and most assuredly a way to negate batmans technological advantages.....i mean give the guy some credit.....i seem to remember back in the identity crises days he did invent and sucessful use four different styles of fighting and weaponery and if bats is allowed to give his all with regard to using any tech he can think of....whats to stop the same applying to spidy...Basically what i'm trying to say is if according to the comics batman never loses...he may be able to take the initial encounter(but highely bloody unlikely) well in the same vein spidey will be able to survive cos hes survived far worse and he will be able to come back and bring it to such a degree as to win. I'm out.....Lets see what you have to say about that

you've already admitted that spiderman would lose the first round....discussion's over....

No....if you take a closer look at my post i said

So lets say for arguments sake that Bats wins this match which according to DC he may do cos he never loses and could take on god himself given enough prep time (last part is said in the most sarcastic tone of voice that i can manage without hurting myself) thou i give him a 5 percent chance of actually doing said feat.....

would you like for me to explain what hypothetical means ...cos that was what i saying....and 5 percent does not equal a win

i thought you ment 5 percent in relation to your bats vs. god comparison...but common man if that's indeed what you meant you messed it up. cuase that's not how it looks...

"Here's my argument....Batman may well manage to defeat spidey but would never be able to kill him cos spidey is the King of escapes"

your words not mine...