Batman vs Spiderman

Started by The MISTER343 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk
I imagine they're refering to the remote control that's strapped to batman's wrist, that contacts his bat-vehicles remotely
I'll accept that but I don't think he'd last long enough for the vehicles to be of much use.

I'm done posting here. Nothing has been convincing enough to change my mind from believing Spider-man is Batman's superior. IMO

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Originally posted by The MISTER
This is pathetic. Please explain how the "Batmobile" is something Batman regularly carries on him. The determination to bring tanks and planes to this fight just further says to me that Batman is outclassed. 😮‍💨
Ditto. The Batfans have given out so much crap. "Batman has a suit that took a punch from Supes". Come on people. This is Supes. You know "Strong as a MFer, could easily punch you so hard your head explodes, has done incredible feats of strength" Supes. Can the suit Batman had survive a punch from Supes? Yes, if Supes really isn't trying to kill him w/that punch.

I think jinzin said something like "He's knocked Capt Marvel(DC) into the air and made him turn back into Billy". OK I can accept that, but it also means that Capt Marvel ain't s**t! I thought Capt. Marvel was supposed to be a near Superman level powerhouse. Unless Bats had some kind of special tool that works on Capt. Marvel that allows him to do this, it just doesn't make sense. It's bad writing that encourages Batfanboyism.

In this thread or another I think jinzin said something like "Batman takes on Amazo alone & wins". The fight was Batman AND Nightwing. They still should've lost and lost quickly. Once again "It's bad writing that encourages Batfanboyism." The Batman writers must love some of their readers because they are willing to accept ANYTHING they write, no matter how ridiculous.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I guess this one is just that batman can not adapt to spiderman's fighting style. Well I beg to differ. (superhuman strength is already out of the equation)- speed, agility, durability, equilibrium, elasticity, make up for nothing because batman has away around each and every one of those things, this is a point for batman. Batman has adapted to different fighting styles over the past and one more is not going to make a difference. Case in point the white martians hunted batman and he came up with a solution right there and then....effectively switching his fighting style to his advantage. (and for your information batman did not know these people who were chasing him were white martians he deduced it.) Spiderman's fighting style may be unique but with batman there is nothing a well placed flash bang, stunned grenades, or gas wouldn't take care off. If the battle goes to physicality, yes it falls mainly in spiderman's court. But Power is not everything when faced with a great martial artist. Case in point batman could not follow the movements of another martial artist. Know what he did....he activated his own spider-sense...he feeled the vibrations of the air around him so as to follow where his opponent is going to attack. See why I can't give the physicality test completely to spiderman.

taken from strawnilla.....DD is left at a greater disadvantage than Batman for he does not have the tech needed to deal with Spidey in a prepped fight and would be overwhelmed on both non prep and prep accounts......I wish this was true the fact of the matter is it ain't. For as Jinzin and Mainstream have pointed out and shown that DD as got the better of spiderman on more than one occasion. taken from strawnilla....Spidey's much stronger, faster, tougher, versatile, perceptive, etc. .....this did not spot DD from putting down the symbiont spiderman did it.


Come now. Are you still trying to say that Batman can compensate for superhuman abilities greater than his own peak human abilities many times over? He can't. And when it comes to feeling the vibrations of the air, how can he do this to track someone with superhuman speed to a calibur such as Spidey's? This is starting to get redicoulous. It's not like these white martians have Spidey's superhuman abilities in the same abundance, and comparing Spidey to your everyday martial artist is not the best method of debating. I'm more than certain that this martial artist could not adhere to walls, sense danger before it occurs, lift 15 tons, have superhuman agility, scale a tightrope as easily as he or she could walk, take being thrown through brick walls and against steel doors or bullets on the run (yes, Spidey has done this, he fell unconscious about as soon as he got home, but he did do it), etc. like Spidey has. And flash grenades? What's to say this will do any good against Spidey's spider sense? He has common sense enough to move out of the way of one, not to mention that he could web one up and sling it back at Batman (the spider sense can be used to detect the direction in which an attack is coming depending on what direction the spider sense flares the most alarmingly). It's the same with gas bombs, he can clear out of the way of one easily, and he can hold his breath running through a gas cloud to Batman (the spider sense will warn Spidey of an ambush attack from Bats despite the possible loss of sight in such a gas cloud), and he doesn't have to confront Batman, he could just hold his breath until the gas cloud passes, or he could outrun it (remember that moment during his fight with Morlun when he outran that gas leak?) So, to answer your question, no, I can't see why you don't give physicality completely to Spidey.

As for DD KO'ing Spidey....utter crap. Really, there's no explanation for it. DD has NO superhuman strength, NO superhuman speed (esp. to the point where he could tag Spidey twelve times), NO superhuman agility, etc., etc., just bad writing.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
You have made it clear were you stand on batman not being able to adapt to spiderman's fighting style. And as you know I have been singing that batman is going to adapt to spiderman's fighting style. I am just going on batman's history on this particular subject. If he has been doing this for this long what are the probability of him doing it again, I tell you what....the probability is very very high.

Batman uses the old explosion trick if at any time spiderman has immobilised the batmobile and is getting ready to flip the car. Which as we know spiderman is at ground zero. He is not going to be fast enough to clear the blast radius, with all the ammunition that is inside the car. And he is going to get hurt but not killed.

taken from strawnilla....Spidey could most certainly clear alot of ground consisted of the blast radius, enough so to withstand the force of the blast without critical injury.......Spidey is at ground zero, he gets hurt by the blast. Even factoring the spider-sense he is not going to be fast enough.

taken from strawinlla...And as for what would happen with the machine gun fire and missiles stored inside the Batmobile, assuming that Spidey concentrates on the spider sense (and he is almost every time it goes off) he could dodge the machine gun fire (he does this routinely), and with extreme concentration and focus on trusting his spider sense to locate the direction in which the missiles are coming (and if he's far enough way) he could dodge those to. And the explosions brought about them can be withstood by someone like Spidey (esp. if he leaps away from the blast site).........There is something wrong here you have spiderman doing one, two many things at the same time. The probability is too high. You have spiderman concentrating on the missiles trying to locate them and you also have him concentrating on the bullets of a random machine gun fire, what about his surroundings, the debris that are to get kicked up, again you have spiderman doing way to many stuff. Spiderman gets hurt.

Same Here.....same here

Broke this post in two...original would have been two long...considering my rebuttal method.


Batman has NO history of adapting to a fighting style such as Spidey's to start off, and he won't any time soon either.

And you have failed to explain how Spidey would not be able to clear enough of the blast radius to prevent from being KO'ed, Spidey can take it and will be ready enough to take the fight to Batman and exploit that jaw since, apparently, the suit he uses casually can take shots from a p***ed of Superman.

And Spidey's been hurt before (just look at his fights with Morlun and BT), that has never meant he was out of the fight. He can still take the fight to Batman and fight through the pain, superhuman durability and willpower is the key.

And Spidey is versatile, he can do alot of stuff. His stats alone are a testiment to that. Machine gun fire is nothing new to Spidey, he dodges it in a manner where someone would mistake him for playing dodgeball rather than evading for his life. It's nothing new. And he can dodge missiles if far enough way and, as I've said, if he concentrates deeply on the spider sense he can deal with missiles.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Ditto. The Batfans have given out so much crap. "Batman has a suit that took a punch from Supes". Come on people. This is Supes. You know "Strong as a MFer, could easily punch you so hard your head explodes, has done incredible feats of strength" Supes. Can the suit Batman had survive a punch from Supes? Yes, if Supes really isn't trying to kill him w/that punch.

I think jinzin said something like "He's knocked Capt Marvel(DC) into the air and made him turn back into Billy". OK I can accept that, but it also means that Capt Marvel ain't s**t! I thought Capt. Marvel was supposed to be a near Superman level powerhouse. Unless Bats had some kind of special tool that works on Capt. Marvel that allows him to do this, it just doesn't make sense. It's bad writing that encourages Batfanboyism.

In this thread or another I think jinzin said something like "Batman takes on Amazo alone & wins". The fight was Batman AND Nightwing. They still should've lost and lost quickly. Once again "It's bad writing that encourages Batfanboyism." The Batman writers must love some of their readers because they are willing to accept ANYTHING they write, no matter how ridiculous.

pretty much, have you seen how desperate they have gotten in the wolverine thread?

desperate?....we have everything on our side that says he'll win plain and simple.....why would we need to be desperate....we're not the ones attacking spiderman for how much sense his character may or may not make in order to try and achieve victory....😂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You need to seriously get over yourself,man I've stalked you on no forums, I just log on to see the usual group of people stop at no ends to get some attention from me, and bash me on all sides while proving nothing.

That's why you've dug up threads in which I was the last to post and try to contradict me even though the thread's been long dead? Stalker.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
On the contrary bud you don't have to respond to me. I won't feel bad since I am really getting more responses than anone on this comic forum period, I'm being very prolific If you haven't noticed, which brings me to my next poitn.

On the contrary, I am fully aware I don't have to do anything. People respond to your post because they're so flawed you actually make their arguements stronger.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If you and the others see me as such a shitty debator because I throw my points back at you with you having no way around it, why bother with me, I'm not the only one posting on here you know, yet I get my threads ripped apart and misunderstood on a regular basis from the three same people, hater.

Misunderstood? Hardly, I think you might have problems expressing yourself, coxcomb.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
thank you I've explaineed this to him many times

You can have all the training you want,but to go against a fully beserk polar bear is just pointless, you will lose.

wolverine crap fights will get you a load of heat here, so be prepared, regardless, they may ignore you because you make sense, or they have nothing to say to you, who knows.

Its refeshing to hear a good point from a new voice around heree.

Who said anything about training alone? Give me some distance and a .50 cal and I'll show you what I think about a berserk polar bear.

Originally posted by Zahit
...and......if you'll notice.......
The only threads that seem to go on forever are the ones involved
with Spiderman. And it's the SAME people who keep those threads
going......the Spidey-haters. They will almost ALWAYS argue against
Spiderman, regardless of who he's against.
And those Spidey-haters are also, suspiciously enough, Wolvie-lovers.
Is their jealousy of Spiderman being Marvel's #1 instead of Wolverine that great?
It would appear so.....

That's poppycock. I hate Spidey fanboys not spidey. I hate Wolverine, not spidey.

Originally posted by The MISTER
This is pathetic. Please explain how the "Batmobile" is something Batman regularly carries on him. The reasoning that it is part of his "character" is flawed. The Batmobile is part of the BATCAVE! The Batcave is moreso a part of Batmans character. Does he usually carry the batcave on him?

Straw the one that originally inadvertently brought it up.

now now..lets not diss Spidey fanboys OR Batman fanboys...

aka

insulting the Batman writers/the marvel jealousy thing

none of them quite make sense seeing as they are superheroes.

give me some webbing fluid and i'll tell you about that gun anytime, and lets give an explanation for these posts, and stop talking about things apart from them since we cant explain anything

I'm not talking out of context, I'm using comparisons. Myself with a .50 cal with some distance vs. an enraged polar bear I win. That's my comparison to Batman(obviously with gadgets) vs. Spiderman. You could figure that out right? Didn't score to high on our SAT analagies did we?

Well I scored a 1320 on it and forgot half of one section of it ,i was pissed off.

Well imagine this is a polar bear with the speed of a cheetah,the dexterity of a double jointed octopus, and the intelligence of two average people,and has webbing that has more uses than any of one of bats gadgets, though not all of them together.

Well then imagine I have M60, and bunker to fire it from. This game is pointless come up with a point instead.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell

Well imagine this is a polar bear with the speed of a cheetah,the dexterity of a double jointed octopus, and the intelligence of two average people,and has webbing that has more uses than any of one of bats gadgets, though not all of them together.

Don't forget to add that the Polar Bear will also have the ability to sense when someone is going to fire a shot at him..😉

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
This game is pointless come up with a point instead.

You created the "Polar Bear" anology..and now you are calling it pointless? The only thing you've managed to "shoot" down is your own argument and credability my friend..😆😆😆

no it makes perfect sense, we make up ways for bats and wolverine to win.

Originally posted by jinzin
desperate?....we have everything on our side that says he'll win plain and simple...

Everything huh ?

Everything but the outcome of the polls. Seems that the majority is disagreeing with you, I'm afraid...

(No, don't tell me, they are all fanboys 🙄 )

yea, use books when they count since we can't explain any of this, it looks like I could take spidey.