Originally posted by 8bitChris
You know what's BS? Super heroes in capes. I mean, what's the point? I think capes are more of a nuisance than anything.I mean, wearing super spandex all the time is bad enough, but when you start adding capes..well...yeah.
If Batman wins through BS? Well, nothing I can do about that 😛. I didn't write it haha. It's not like he'd win because he's better than Spiderman.
Your right, Batman will win, you're opinion of his tactics is just that, an opinion. The result is the same reguardless of your ability to comprehend how.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
You're just trying to put the character down, haven't you accused others of that? Please tell me why Batman "hangs" basically all the time, and yet it isn't usable as evidence? If his character "pulls the right thing at the right time" it isn't crap, it's part of his character. Do you require further explanation?
No, you're just trying to make ways for him to win, like bat writers. You said what I said, if he pulls the right thing at the right time, which is what he's based on, and what people try to bring in to the table on virtually any discussion, its rididculous, and is why this has gone on so long anyway. It's cheating, hmmmmmmmm, batman vs. galactus, he could pull out that anti galactus ray, we need to have bats periphrials stated in the beginning of these matches from now on, because bat fanboys like to make up stuff.
Again you put too much emphasis on fighting technique, for a guy that could sense the kick, dodge it, rip it off and toss it awaywith ease, this guy doesn't have that adamantium excuse. 😉
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No, you're just trying to make ways for him to win, like bat writers. You said what I said, if he pulls the right thing at the right time, which is what he's based on, and what people try to bring in to the table on virtually any discussion, its rididculous, and is why this has gone on so long anyway. It's cheating, hmmmmmmmm, batman vs. galactus, he could pull out that anti galactus ray, we need to have bats periphrials stated in the beginning of these matches from now on, because bat fanboys like to make up stuff.
He pulls out the right thing at the right time and instead of concluding that his character is the type that usually prepared you dismiss it as crap...because you don't like the character? Because you feel It's not good writing? Because even though he does it time and time again, you would like to see him continually losing?
Orion carries a mother box, now it's cheating for him to use it? It may seem cheap but how is it cheaing? Unless that you're trying to imply that it's only cheating for Batman, which I wouldn't be suprised if you did.
Your Galactus example is rediculous.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Again you put too much emphasis on fighting technique, for a guy that could sense the kick, dodge it, rip it off and toss it awaywith ease, this guy doesn't have that adamantium excuse. 😉
Hmm so let's see, when he fought daredevil he sensed the kick, dodged it, ripped it off and tossed it awa... oh no wait that's not how it happened. I guess you just made that up, you kidder you.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
He pulls out the right thing at the right time and instead of concluding that his character is the type that usually prepared you dismiss it as crap...because you don't like the character? Because you feel It's not good writing? Because even though he does it time and time again, you would like to see him continually losing?
I love Batman, its just annoying how the first thing someone says in a debate is he'll have this and that. This isn't a prep time match,and batman wont have his batmobile and tanks etc. It only makes you seem that much more despertae for him to win. Stop trying to use the old " YOu don't like the character, because you don't like our bs excuse." Batman should simply have those periphrials listed, this makes a good comic, being ridiculously ready for anything. But not a good debate.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Orion carries a mother box, now it's cheating for him to use it? It may seem cheap but how is it cheaing? Unless that you're trying to imply that it's only cheating for Batman, which I wouldn't be suprised if you did.
No, I said it was cheating or damn near it, to conjure cheesy tactics to make your boy win. It is written that Orion has a mother box, but now you are trying to cater to guys who use lousy situations to make bats win,because they can do little else.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Your Galactus example is rediculous.
It was simply derived from what people use all the time, good that you now see it as ridiculous.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Hmm so let's see, when he fought daredevil he sensed the kick, dodged it, ripped it off and tossed it awa... oh no wait that's not how it happened. I guess you just made that up, you kidder you.
OF course I did! When did spidey ever fight bats in a good comic? This isn't max and spidey will just be tearing apart things like Iron Man 2020's armor, giant robots and things like that apart, but god forbid a normal man......
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I love Batman, its just annoying how the first thing someone says in a debate is he'll have this and that. This isn't a prep time match,and batman wont have his batmobile and tanks etc. It only makes you seem that much more despertae for him to win. Stop trying to use the old " YOu don't like the character, because you don't like our bs excuse." Batman should simply have those periphrials listed, this makes a good comic, being ridiculously ready for anything. But not a good debate.
Who said anything about prep-time? You admit that Bat's is indeed regularly prepared for most things, and yet you insist that he should not be in anyway prepared for this fight? I'm not suprised, this is you after all.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No, I said it was cheating or damn near it, to conjure cheesy tactics to make your boy win. It is written that Orion has a mother box, but now you are trying to cater to guys who use lousy situations to make bats win,because they can do little else.
It's cheating? It's cheating to debate tactics that a character regularly uses? Batman doesn't rely on situations, he creates them.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It was simply derived from what people use all the time, good that you now see it as ridiculous.OF course I did! When did spidey ever fight bats in a good comic? This isn't max and spidey will just be tearing apart things like Iron Man 2020's armor, giant robots and things like that apart, but god forbid a normal man......
My point (which you were kind enough to ignore) was that Spiderman has never done such things, not even to humans whilst in bloodlust. Just another example of you making things up that would make him win.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Who said anything about prep-time? You admit that Bat's is indeed regularly prepared for most things, and yet you insist that he should not be in anyway prepared for this fight? I'm not suprised, this is you after all.
No he should have his items listed so he can be debated without bs statements, batman wins many matches by super items, put you and me in there and we would do the same.
I'm not surprised that you need to insult to have someone respond to your posts, this is a spontaneous match, and batman hasn't met spidey yet, no anti spidey repellant please.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
It's cheating? It's cheating to debate tactics that a character regularly uses? Batman doesn't rely on situations, he creates them.
NO , its really cheap to make up stuff, which writers do for him, which makes these debates damned ridiculous at times, no bat fanboys create the situations which suit them best, not saying any names.......... and I'm not even saying you.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
My point (which you were kind enough to ignore) was that Spiderman has never done such things, not even to humans whilst in bloodlust. Just another example of you making things up that would make him win.
So at least you realise what he can do now in that 3v1 thread. You want to tone him down to make this more interesting fine by me.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No he should have his items listed so he can be debated without bs statements, batman wins many matches by super items, put you and me in there and we would do the same.
OK...so where are said items listed?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I'm not surprised that you need to insult to have someone respond to your posts, this is a spontaneous match, and batman hasn't met spidey yet, no anti spidey repellant please.
I don't need to insult you, I enjoy it. And actually, they have met.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
NO , its really cheap to make up stuff, which writers do for him, which makes these debates damned ridiculous at times, no bat fanboys create the situations which suit them best, not saying any names.......... and I'm not even saying you.
I think your confusing Batman being in situations that suit him best to Batman putting himself in situations that suit him best.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
So at least you realise what he can do now in that 3v1 thread. You want to tone him down to make this more interesting fine by me.
Where did I allude to that? You've made stuff up before so I find it necessary to ask. That and you draw conclusions like Wolvie having a poor chance against Spidey even though he's beat him 3 out of 3 (that's 100% incase you didn't know.)
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
OK...so where are said items listed?
Thats my point they need to be.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I don't need to insult you, I enjoy it. And actually, they have met.
I know you like to talk trash, its cool i find it amusing to, you cant irritate me with statements made for others to take the bait for your ammunition. I know they met, but I'm referring to certain tactics in this fight, where they meet each other randomly.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I think your confusing Batman being in situations that suit him best to Batman putting himself in situations that suit him best.
No, I'm saying people who put him in the best situations to suit their arguments.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Where did I allude to that? You've made stuff up before so I find it necessary to ask. That and you draw conclusions like Wolvie having a poor chance against Spidey even though he's beat him 3 out of 3 (that's 100% incase you didn't know.)
Bloodust spidey can do this or that.
I never said he had a poor chance. You like to assume. Makes an A-S-S out of U-M-E, though mostly you, you made the conclusion that spidey can't even hurt wolverine, and wolverine hardly beat anything, they were more of stalemates.
Batman has no chance against Spider-man.. Batman is sneaky and he's a great martial artist that exploits weaknesses to win, but Spidey has no weakness to exploit and any kind of sneak attack would be countered by his spider sense.
If they went toe to toe Batman wouldn't be able to land a hit, and if he somehow did it wouldn't phase Spider-man because he has simply above average strength and speed, Spidey wouldn't even have to try, he would probably let Bat run off after throwing him around a bit.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Thats my point they need to be.
Fair enough, although with the exception of the Batmobile (which Straw actually brought up) I haven't seen anyone talk about anything that Bat's doesn't usually carry.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I know you like to talk trash, its cool i find it amusing to, you cant irritate me with statements made for others to take the bait for your ammunition. I know they met, but I'm referring to certain tactics in this fight, where they meet each other randomly.
And I feel you underestimate Batman's usual level of readiness.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No, I'm saying people who put him in the best situations to suit their arguments.
Ok, although I find that hard to beleive because both characters are mostly known to be around very similar situations (save the gargoyles.)
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Bloodust spidey can do this or that.
Did you just right that to rhyme?
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I never said he had a poor chance. You like to assume. Makes an A-S-S out of U-M-E, though mostly you, you made the conclusion that spidey can't even hurt wolverine, and wolverine hardly beat anything, they were more of stalemates.
So what chance does he have?
I made the conclusion that Spidey can't Hurt Wolvie in direct reference to one occassion, then it all got a little out of hand. I still draw the conclusion that Spidey, with an active Wolvie fighting back, Can take no damage from Spidey that would make him lose the fight in hand to hand combat.
Originally posted by forzik
Batman has no chance against Spider-man.. Batman is sneaky and he's a great martial artist that exploits weaknesses to win, but Spidey has no weakness to exploit and any kind of sneak attack would be countered by his spider sense.If they went toe to toe Batman wouldn't be able to land a hit, and if he somehow did it wouldn't phase Spider-man because he has simply above average strength and speed, Spidey wouldn't even have to try, he would probably let Bat run off after throwing him around a bit.
See Mitchell, this is the kind of post that solicited such strong arguements from Bats supporters. Then you walk in and join in at a time when nothing but this rampant tomfoolery is going on, It's not hard to see why we ended up in such a state.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
See Mitchell, this is the kind of post that solicited such strong arguements from Bats supporters. Then you walk in and join in at a time when nothing but this rampant tomfoolery is going on, It's not hard to see why we ended up in such a state.
Hey its his first post, people always write things like supes wins, you assholes, or something like that without explaining why, I try to get them to do so, as you've seen many times, but he did a small amount of explaining, you notice I didn't say you are right thank you for clearing this up for these fools, as I already see the consequence of that action.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Fair enough, although with the exception of the Batmobile (which Straw actually brought up) I haven't seen anyone talk about anything that Bat's doesn't usually carry.
Hey, i heard tanks and such, and I never said you were guilty, you jumped on me from what i read this morning. Though you and I were trying to emphasize fighting skills.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
And I feel you underestimate Batman's usual level of readiness.
Bats is the best at that, even better than spidey, as spidey matches his intelligence, but not cunning.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Ok, although I find that hard to beleive because both characters are mostly known to be around very similar situations (save the gargoyles.)
I already said they are very similar, dead parents, smart, victims of tragedy, etc...
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Did you just right that to rhyme?
Rhyme,blime,slime, put it into what I can find.
Merc is so handsome he just blows my mind.🙂
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
So what chance does he have?
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I made the conclusion that Spidey can't Hurt Wolvie in direct reference to one occassion, then it all got a little out of hand. I still draw the conclusion that Spidey, with an active Wolvie fighting back, Can take no damage from Spidey that would make him lose the fight in hand to hand combat.
He can take damage, and he doesn't need to to be defeated, eventhe skeleton can be avoided, we will always have our different points, as long as we understand each other's points.
Originally posted by forzik
Batman has no chance against Spider-man.. Batman is sneaky and he's a great martial artist that exploits weaknesses to win, but Spidey has no weakness to exploit and any kind of sneak attack would be countered by his spider sense.If they went toe to toe Batman wouldn't be able to land a hit, and if he somehow did it wouldn't phase Spider-man because he has simply above average strength and speed, Spidey wouldn't even have to try, he would probably let Bat run off after throwing him around a bit.
Nobody here has given ANY kind of evidence - or convincing argument - how Batman will beat a guy with precog and who outclasses Batman in every physical way.
The closest thing you might read here, is something like :"Hm, well, he is the Bats after all, so I suppose he could do this and that..."
Spider-Man wins. Logic tells me that. Common sense too by the way.