Batman vs Spiderman

He doesn't have to lift 10 tons, he channels his chi. He can completley thrash thick trees and walls with a single blow with no damage to himself. The DC encyclopedia has a nice little pic of a young Bruce sidekicking straight threw a 3 foot wide tree.

If you doubt Batman's not smarter than Spidey your so very completley wrong and should ask yourself what else you're wrong about. Batman's as good a chemist, and excels in way more fields of knowledge than Spidey. It's such a joke that you could even try to pass off Spidey being smarter.

Won't land enought punches? It'll only take a few, this is a guy who's mastered a DC only martial art that lets him do a touch of death.

Never said Spiderman was smarter. Spiderman is an excellent chemist, as well. Batman may be smarter, but not by much.

Spiderman is much faster than Batman to begin with. Add in Spidersense, and he's nigh untouchable.

That didn't stop Punisher from shooting him. I think "nigh-untouchable" is overexaggerated. He may seem that way but he's been "touched" far too often for me to want to use that term. As for the speed I find it's hardly exaggerated. I think far too often people mistake his traveling speed for how fast he can actually use his limbs. I've heard something like "15X faster" than a human, and yet the Russian knocks him out in the first punch? DD goes toe to toe with him? Think rationally man, that doesn't sound like much faster than me.

Oh lord. Is this still up for debate? I know Batman can channel his chi to perform superhuman feats, I've seen him do it many times. But it just doesn't compare to what Spiderman does on a regular basis, without having to really use much effort at all. You make it sound like Spidey doesn't defeat foes who are clearly more powerful them him. He finds a way. And with a normal human who happens to be pretty good, there is no doubt he will still find a way, perhaps several, to incapacitate Batman and win this fight. They just aren't on the same level here.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You make it sound like Spidey doesn't defeat foes who are clearly more powerful them him. He finds a way.

Are you seriously bringin that up as a point? That's Batman's bread and butter.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Yes, Bat-cheating wins this one for Batman. I don't know how anyone could doubt Bats could do this.

Just look at the enemies that have defeated Spiderman, Bats has a better chance than at least half of them.

I would like to see Batman vs Morlun... or vs Juggernaut ... or vs Titania ... or vs Black Tarantula ... or vs Rhino ... or vs Firelord ... or vs Future Iron Man ... or vs Venom ... or vs Goliath ...or vs Sinister Six ... the list is very long.

You know as well as I a few of those you listed are total crap. As for Blacl Tarantula, Batman's kicks his ass at the along with like five other guys at the same time (JLA/Avengers if i'm not mistaken.) And Batman could handle a couple others on that list as well.

You say the list is very long but it's not all that long compared to Batman's. You bring up a point for one character and completley ignore that the other character has that going for him too. Not very strong debating If you ask me.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
You say the list is very long but it's not all that long compared to Batman's. You bring up a point for one character and completley ignore that the other character has that going for him too. Not very strong debating If you ask me.

Not very strong debating if you ask me.

Fact remains, that Spider-Man is stronger, faster, tougher and more agile than Batman will EVER be, and I'm not even talking about his spider-sense and his webs.

Yeah, this is coming from me. Should we just ignore how many times low level characters have put the beat down on spidey?

Speed, sorry man, you can't have that one. Spidey simply isn't super-fast.

If fisk gives Spidey trouble and all he has is the strength...

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Yeah, this is coming from me. Should we just ignore how many times low level characters have put the beat down on spidey?

Speed, sorry man, you can't have that one. Spidey simply isn't super-fast.

If fisk gives Spidey trouble and all he has is the strength...

Of course Spider-Man gets hit sometimes. Would be boring if he didn't, wouldn't it ? What's the fun in reading about a guy who dodges everything ? And I pity the writers who have to make exciting stories about a guy who never gets hit and walks through death traps like it's nothing.

I don't think this is very hard to understand.

You say he isn't superfast ? Fine. Prove it.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Spider-Man IS superfast (I am talking about reflexes and such).

Of course Spider-Man gets hit sometimes. Would be boring if he didn't, wouldn't it ? What's the fun in reading about a guy who dodges everything ? And I pity the writers who have to make exciting stories about a guy who never gets hit and walks through death traps like it's nothing.

I don't think this is very hard to understand.

You say he isn't superfast ? Fine. Prove it.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
You know as well as I a few of those you listed are total crap. As for Blacl Tarantula, Batman's kicks his ass at the along with like five other guys at the same time (JLA/Avengers if i'm not mistaken.) And Batman could handle a couple others on that list as well.

You say the list is very long but it's not all that long compared to Batman's. You bring up a point for one character and completley ignore that the other character has that going for him too. Not very strong debating If you ask me.

Now about the speed thing I think that spiderman does not have this one because in one of the JLA arcs. were predators paid a visit. Flash was having trouble keeping off one of the preds who supposedly can move as fast as he was. The pred was annoying Flash while he was trying to do something so he asked for anyone who could hold off the pred. Batman took the call. He dodged the pred while the pred was still moving flash like.

I know there is a couple of inconsistencies but Preds. moving as fast as the flash. Remember Predators study their prey before they make a move. Asked for the batman...he...train's for it.

And one more thing I did not make this up.

Granted that batman's core villains may not have power. But they got a lot of brain power. And we all know that having strength does not mean you are going to win. Yes spidy's core villains have a lot of power but man they do not know how to use it.

And the sinister six does not stand a chance. They got no brains. ooh

😆 You've gotta be kidding me. Spidey is way faster than Batman. Spidey has "Spidey"speed. Bats is a HUMAN. That book was obviously crap. Crossovers are notorius for crapiness. But if you wanna use 'em as back up so can I. Read the Bat VS Pred 2. I think it was 2. Pred beat Bats up w/a common stick. KOed him. Bats had to get help from Huntress to stay alive. & Pred wasn't moving like the Flash either!

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Granted that batman's core villains may not have power. But they got a lot of brain power. And we all know that having strength does not mean you are going to win. Yes spidy's core villains have a lot of power but man they do not know how to use it.

And the sinister six does not stand a chance. They got no brains. ooh [/B]

Are you serious? You're honestly going to sit there and say that?

Have you forgotten, oh, I don't know...DR. OTTO OCTAVIUS? A freakin genius! And hm...who else? The Lizard (When Dr. Connors is in control). The Green Goblin perhaps? Quite the INTELLIGENT, diabolichal character if you ask me. Kingpin? Yea.

And those are just some of the intelligent Spidey foes. They all know how to use their power. Very effectively might I add.

That last point is valid, Spidey's villians who are powerhouses don't have the brains to back it up.

Spidey is not superfast, prove that he is, show me pictures of him keeping up with quicksilver, or northstar, or whatever, cause that's the way you guys are making him out to sound. Since when do Reflexes make you move at superspeed? That statements is rediculous, especially when spidey himself has stated that he thing wolverine is faster than him.

That's right, A simple peak Human, faster than Spidey, right out of Spidey's mouth.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Spidey is not superfast, prove that he is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-man

http://www.spider-man-movies.com/spider-man_comics/

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/spiderman.htm

http://www.missico.com/personal/kids/spiderman/powers.htm

http://www.samruby.com/Spiderverse/Spiderman/spidermans_profile.htm

(from wikipedia)

Notable
powers

Strength, Reflexes, Equilibrium, Exodermal adhesion, Premonition of immediate danger

(from spidermanmovies.com)

Peter acquires the agility and proportionate strength of an arachnid.
(this is what they have listed as his powers)
Spider-Man's Powers

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His Spider-Sense
Wall Crawling
Strength and Agility
Web-Slinging

(from marvel directories)

Know Superhuman Powers: Spider-Man possesses superhuman strength, reflexes, and equilibrium; the ability to cause parts of his body to stick with great tenacity to most surfaces; and a subconscious premonitional "danger" sence.

Spider-Man's overall metabolic efficiency has been greatly increased, and the composition of his skeleton, inter-connected tissues, and nervous system have all been enhanced. Spider-Man's musculature has been augmentedso that he can lift (press) about 10 tons. His reflexes are faster than an average human by about a factor of 15 (he is often able to dodge bullets, if he is far enough away). Spider-Man is extraordinarily limber and his tendons and connective tissues are twice as elastic as the average human being's, despite their enhanced strength. He has developed a unique fighting style that makes full use of his agility, strength, and equilibrium.

there's some BS theory here on how he sticks to walls here (i'll save you the time)

Spider-Man possesses an extrasensory "danger" or "spider" sensewhich warns him of potential immediate danger by tingling sensation in the back of his skull. The precise nature of this sense is unknown.

I'm not gonna go threw the rest.

Gee who?-kid It only took you two minutes to prove absolutley nothing? You should be very proud of yourself.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Spider-Man IS superfast (I am talking about reflexes and such).

Of course Spider-Man gets hit sometimes. Would be boring if he didn't, wouldn't it ? What's the fun in reading about a guy who dodges everything ? And I pity the writers who have to make exciting stories about a guy who never gets hit and walks through death traps like it's nothing.

I don't think this is very hard to understand.

You say he isn't superfast ? Fine. Prove it.

Spider-Man has superfast reflexes. You - like always - were disagreeing and wanted me to prove it. I gave you five links to prove it.

Don't know what's so hard to understand...

You word twisting scoundrel!

I said Spidey wasn't super fast, you asked me to prove it.

I asked you to prove he was.

You didn't prove that he was.

Don't try to spin what I said, you're the one who misunderstood.

And either way this proves my point, Spiderman does not posses super speed, which is something that almost everyone argueing for spiderman seems to think.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
You word twisting scoundrel!

I said Spidey wasn't super fast, you asked me to prove it.

I asked you to prove he was.

You didn't prove that he was.

Don't try to spin what I said, you're the one who misunderstood.

And either way this proves my point, Spiderman does not posses super speed, which is something that almost everyone argueing for spiderman seems to think.