Batman vs Spiderman

Lets put this all into one post.

He scientifically figured how to beat many of his villans, no more than batman has, does batman have a reason for his items, not usually. How about that super strong webbing that is 120lbs per millimeter of tensile strength.

Stop being bitter, bats dodges, just not better than spiderman, and those were to survive. Many faster creatures cannot dodge a skilled machine gun shot, much less a human who runs at 30 mph max.

Oh you mean avoiding how Batman wouldn't beat spiderman head up, no more than a human would beat an animal.

Or how ryu at his best would beat the three in the other thread.

Or how wolverine couldn't beat namor in a usual setting, so you tried to flip it to your own means.

no more than batman has indeed....cuase batman's had to do it alot more...are you seriously implying batman couldn't make his own spider webbing if he tried?

HA

and as far as bitter goes...who says I'm bitter...i certainly don't....you're the one casually discarding the fact that batman can dodge a lot of things that normal human shouldn't be able to dodge....heat vision for instance...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No gadgets please, now explain.

You said marines, when have you ever seen a marine with out his weapon....that is some scenario you got there...

You we know for a fact that in the real world we are no match for the animals you keep putting us against....while the animals out ranked us in strength we out rank them in brain power...and that is why we greated all them weapons as an extension of ourselves and to makes things even for us....well it is not so even...with the weapons created them animals that gave us trouble started disappearing one by one...while the animal used what God gave them their strength...we used what god gave us our brains....which proved to be more fatal...

But in the comics we have people taking it to animals all the time...you have black panther toppling rhinos not because of strength but because of leverage...because all his weight is directed in the front end of the rhino...you have batman fighting cybernetic enhance cyborg gorillas...hand 2 hand....not to mansion gorilla grudd him self, and the altra humanite. in the comics show down with animals are common...with the human always winning...most of the time...not all the time..

"Oh you mean avoiding how Batman wouldn't beat spiderman head up, no more than a human would beat an animal."

i already said in a fist fight advantage goes to spiderman but you already agreed it's dangerous for either one of them to get in close...or have you already forgotten...

"Or how ryu at his best would beat the three in the other thread."

ryu at his fullest potential...which I agreed to...ryu at his best AS he's BEEN REPRESENTED....nope....

"Or how wolverine couldn't beat namor in a usual setting, so you tried to flip it to your own means."

I didn't avoid it or change it....I think wolverine can do it...

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
You said marines, when have you ever seen a marine with out his weapon....that is some scenario you got there...

You we know for a fact that in the real world we are no match for the animals you keep putting us against....while the animals out ranked us in strength we out rank them in brain power...and that is why we greated all them weapons as an extension of ourselves and to makes things even for us....well it is not so even...with the weapons created them animals that gave us trouble started disappearing one by one...while the animal used what God gave them their strength...we used what god gave us our brains....which proved to be more fatal...

But in the comics we have people taking it to animals all the time...you have black panther toppling rhinos not because of strength but because of leverage...because all his weight is directed in the front end of the rhino...you have batman fighting cybernetic enhance cyborg gorillas...hand 2 hand....not to mansion gorilla grudd him self, and the altra humanite. in the comics show down with animals are common...with the human always winning...most of the time...not all the time..

stop dodging the point, we cant beat them with fists alone, thank you.

yes................we can (or at least have the potential to)....again do you know what martial arts were invented for....

Originally posted by jinzin
"Oh you mean avoiding how Batman wouldn't beat spiderman head up, no more than a human would beat an animal."

i already said in a fist fight advantage goes to spiderman but you already agreed it's dangerous for either one of them to get in close...or have you already forgotten...

"Or how ryu at his best would beat the three in the other thread."

ryu at his fullest potential...which I agreed to...ryu at his best AS he's BEEN REPRESENTED....nope....

"Or how wolverine couldn't beat namor in a usual setting, so you tried to flip it to your own means."

I didn't avoid it or change it....I think wolverine can do it...

I never agreed to spiderman being in such a danger head up, my point is, batman's wins are based on the chance of having the right tool, and the chance of it being successful after each application.
That being said,I don't understand how you see this as a 50/50 matchup, especially if he has the same gadgets in the same matches ten times up, they become less effective.

Why do you feel he wins 5/5 ?

I CAN beat up an animal like that, just not likely at ALL, not to where I'd bet money thats for sure.

Didn't you practicall try to chew me out about potential?

actually you kind of...well....DID.......

"Indeed but I also feel that he has taken it from more deadly attacks, and gone in. It still isn't fully effective for bats hand to hand imo."

I said that if YOU were to go to a tiger with a trainquilizer, you COULD get the tiger, but would it be worth the risk, thats what I said.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I never agreed to spiderman being in such a danger head up, my point is, batman's wins are based on the chance of having the right tool, and the chance of it being successful after each application.
That being said,I don't understand how you see this as a 50/50 matchup, especially if he has the same gadgets in the same matches ten times up, they become less effective.

Why do you feel he wins 5/5 ?

I CAN beat up an animal like that, just not likely at ALL, not to where I'd bet money thats for sure.

Didn't you practicall try to chew me out about potential?

yep....i certainly did....but the point wasn't the same as it is here...a marine or a human can't beat an animal on average...because no one trains like martial artists trained when martial arts were invented and refined to fight such beasts....now give someone that same training and their ability to beat said beast increases A TON.....

I'm giving spiderman 5 benifits of the doubt that he can put batman down before batman can hit him with a touh of death, tracking device batarang, grenades, gas, or a sonic device that's powerful enough to level structures.... i think that's pretty damned fair...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I said that if YOU were to go to a tiger with a trainquilizer, you COULD get the tiger, but would it be worth the risk, thats what I said.

actually you said exactly what I posted hence the quotations... 😄

I don't think that is fair at all, when was the last person to go beat up an alligator or crocodile or something? Most people have trouble with an average brawler, even black belts(which isn't impressive on its on). 5 out of 10, whilst bats relies on luck, it just isn't feasible.

I don't believe that spiderman would be in the greater physical threat confronting him up close, because batman would see that he is superhuman and wouldn't waste his time. Why didnt he touch of death bane?

Originally posted by jinzin
no more than batman has indeed....cuase batman's had to do it alot more...are you seriously implying batman couldn't make his own spider webbing if he tried?

HA

and as far as bitter goes...who says I'm bitter...i certainly don't....you're the one casually discarding the fact that batman can dodge a lot of things that normal human shouldn't be able to dodge....heat vision for instance...

of course you don't think you're bitter, but the chances of him dodging heat vision are pitifully low.

He's a hero remember.

<<<"I don't think that is fair at all, when was the last person to go beat up an alligator or crocodile or something? Most people have trouble with an average brawler, even black belts(which isn't impressive on its on). 5 out of 10, whilst bats relies on luck, it just isn't feasible.">>>

before you were only treading on your own argument...now you're stampeding over it! 😂 bwahahahaha

*whisper* ummmm little hint...batman this normal guy right...he's got this villain right...who just happens to be a freakin walkin talkin humanized equivalant of an alligator...or crocadile.....his name is killer croc..and batman beats his ass h2h constantly *end whisper*

😂

he didn't use the death touch for the simple and utter fact that batman while knowing such techniques does not murder other human beings...well that and the whole thing of him having just fough his entire rogues gallery, running on no sleep or nurishment...the fact that bane deduced who he was and got the drop on him at his own house, the fact that bane was at the top of his game while batman was literally at the bottem of his and could barely stand up out of a freakin chair much less fight a well trained super human expert strategist....

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
of course you don't think you're bitter, but the chances of him dodging heat vision are pitifully low.

He's a hero remember.

guess that's why him and nightwing dodged the crap about 4 or 5 times on ONE comic right? 🙄

Why do you go to a feat, when you were discussing why martial arts is invented, and for that matter, he could have used the death touch on bane eh?

Nightwing can beat superman now?

you were talking about aligators and such vs. a normal human..I found it hilarious because...well for the very reason I told you about...but that aside....black belts today.....pfffft. please more than 60% of black belts in todays world obtain them from an un-authentic school, they are given contracts which garantee a black belt within two years.....most of martial arts most devistating and deadly techniques are not even passed down to younger generations anymore. simply because there's not much need to use themanymore...no more lawless parties of bandits to defend against, no animal to protect your family from, no more duels breaking out on streets...take a master from 5 or 6 generations ago and put him up against a dozen of today's black belts and well....the black belts ain't gonna do so hot...and as far as the aligator thing...I just saw a guy wrestle an alligator into submission two nights ago on on of the discovery channel stations...lol...

batman CAN use the touch of death on anyone but he STILL doesn't kill human beings......whats the matter? now you don't like the premise of bloodlust anymore?

in any case it's debateable whether or not he could have done so at that time simply due to how fatigues he was...

who said anything about beating superman? i was only giving an example of dodging speed and anticpation skills that bats has...again..you're not following the trains of thought very well....just making up your own points in your head which I've never brought up myself... 🙄

Originally posted by jinzin
you were talking about aligators and such vs. a normal human..I found it hilarious because...well for the very reason I told you about...but that aside....black belts today.....pfffft. please more than 60% of black belts in todays world obtain them from an un-authentic school, they are given contracts which garantee a black belt within two years.....most of martial arts most devistating and deadly techniques are not even passed down to younger generations anymore. simply because there's not much need to use themanymore...no more lawless parties of bandits to defend against, no animal to protect your family from, no more duels breaking out on streets...take a master from 5 or 6 generations ago and put him up against a dozen of today's black belts and well....the black belts ain't gonna do so hot...and as far as the aligator thing...I just saw a guy wrestle an alligator into submission two nights ago on on of the discovery channel stations...lol...

Wrestle, yep. People have wrestled bears as well, but killing them with your fist is another matter, their vital spots aren't as accessible.

Agreed on the belt, I stated that long ago. I hate how people get a black belt from a soccermom dojo, and think their hot shit.

Originally posted by jinzin
batman CAN use the touch of death on anyone but he STILL doesn't kill human beings......whats the matter? now you don't like the premise of bloodlust anymore?

Spiderman can onepunch street levelers with greater ease than a "touch of death, that requires greater focus, and concentration on an opponent.

Originally posted by jinzin
in any case it's debateable whether or not he could have done so at that time simply due to how fatigues he was...

Not really, the techniques were demonstrated with ease, right?

Originally posted by jinzin
who said anything about beating superman? i was only giving an example of dodging speed and anticpation skills that bats has...again..you're not following the trains of thought very well....just making up your own points in your head which I've never brought up myself... 🙄

Yep don't be so hard on yourself, you'll get it right next time. I'm going to let Willrules take care of you, I gotta go, for now. I leave it in his capable hands.

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Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It is by an unamed company who doesn't know what the massed implements are for, and he slaps his name on them, he COULD make them, but he doesn't mass produce them at any rate.

I just gave you an example where batman is testing prototype equipment from his company....and in so doing he is stating that it is from his company...If batman usally got his stuff from his companies wouldn't it have been mensioned by now......

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
stop dodging the point, we cant beat them with fists alone, thank you.

Correction I did not dodge any of you point....go back and read it my post again.......I addressed your point quite nicely and it was on the money in orderwords I did not dodge your point..I agreed with you but I completely dismantle your current mode of thought...IN REAL LIFE WE CAN NOT STAND TOE TO TOE WITH SAID ANIMAL YOU KEEP MENTIONING...BUT WE EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD BY USING OUR OWN GIFT...STRENGTH BELONGING TO THE ANIMALS....BRAIN POWER BEING OURS....AND BATMAN IS NOT GOING AFTER SPIDERMAN BARE HANDED NOW IS HE...

IN THE COMICS YOU HAVE PEOPLE TAKING IT ANIMALS AND WINNING ALL THE TIME...and winning One of said people is Black Panther taking down a rhino via leverage...and batman fighting cybernetic enhance cyborg gorrilas. hand to hand....this is the comics

Anyways you do follow what it is I am saying...but you just don't want to admit that what I am saying is more true...

What is more true? Any and everything you guys have posted I've countered long ago.... In fact I'm arguing your sides for you, and you are simply just spitting out what I said twisted. Throughout this thread, bats feats have been the Koran around here, but Spidermans, are played off as mild, use logic, and you'll get farther than posts and pics that contradict themselves.

I noticed you guys were boasting that batman is the better fighter, and now that I've come, that argument has been shut up, and now you want to dodge that specific point.

Now that you know his body is obsolete for the most part, he only has chance to win his fights by what items he has and how lucky he is with them, bottom line.

And that doesn't warrant a 5/10 in any aspect, these weak arguments that you have spit out towards my watered down ones have proved nothing, as you have to go so far around how batman wins that you have to backtrack 20 pages to make it look like you had an argument. Extra words mean nothing, if there's nothing there, fancy dressed shit is still shit.

With that being said,no bruce doesn't mass produce his own items, and no he doesn't win. Your arguments have said that you closely agree with me and are arguing for its own sake, good day.