Originally posted by crazyspinz
umm what is the green goblin, lets see ummm lots of money check, really smart check, has some gadgets check, and IS HUMAN CHECK!!!!!!goblin and spidey are evenly matched, but bats is way smarter than goblin, and has a kickass car, plane, boat, motor cycle, and every other vehicle known to man.
Norman Osborn not only has lots of cool shit, but he has the Goblin formula, which would kill most men. The deal is that its almost the equivalent of the Super Soldier Serum which gives Captain America his powers, with the exception of the Goblin Formula being able to regenerate any wounds Osborn sustains. Spider-Man has defeated Goblin on multiple occasions, and not only that, Spiderman has fought Superman in the 1970's and he has beaten Firelord, hearald of Galactus, who possesses the power of the Silver Surfer.
Batman is too used to fighting street punks and chemically enhanced clowns, no being with raw, physical cosmic power (IE: Firelord, Dormammu). People may hand his rescourcefulness to him, but they do forget that much money was handed to him from his parent's death. Spider-Man has been known for his shrewdness. Spider-Man isnt even that strong in the reality of the Marvel universe, yet he is able to overcome any challenge, do not forget the X-Men and the Spider-Slayers.
Spider-Man wins. Besides, Everyone knows Soviet Batmankoff is 10x more hardcore than regular Batty.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
What is more true? Any and everything you guys have posted I've countered long ago.... In fact I'm arguing your sides for you, and you are simply just spitting out what I said twisted. Throughout this thread, bats feats have been the Koran around here, but Spidermans, are played off as mild, use logic, and you'll get farther than posts and pics that contradict themselves.
No post that has been posted by any of us have ever been contradictory...as a matter of fact everything that was said about batman is fact....on like you from around pages 186 to 190 tired so desparetly to clear a contradictory statement that you made to Jinzin...
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I noticed you guys were boasting that batman is the better fighter, and now that I've come, that argument has been shut up, and now you want to dodge that specific point.
Batman is the better fighter...for reasons already stated that you could not do anything about…and why is batman not the better figher….J..And by the way we were not boasting actually we were because it is true and there is nothing you can do about it…😆…any ways don’t use this as an excuse not to answer my question cause I so want to see why you think spiderman is the better fighter…
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Now that you know his body is obsolete for the most part, he only has chance to win his fights by what items he has and how lucky he is with them, bottom line.
Well then if batman works only on luck alone…then spiderman is going to lose using your logic…batman has been winning on luck against all his other opponents if batman found luck with all his other opponents….spiderman being another opponent is going to lose badly….with the item his has
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
And that doesn't warrant a 5/10 in any aspect, these weak arguments that you have spit out towards my watered down ones have proved nothing, as you have to go so far around how batman wins that you have to backtrack 20 pages to make it look like you had an argument. Extra words mean nothing, if there's nothing there, fancy dressed shit is still shit.
It is your arguments that are weak if this is the best you can do against mine or anybodies for that matter..If you think my points are what you say they are in your last paragraph then point out where you think they are…and give your reason why…😆 anyways Fancy you should say what you said….cause when you got nothing to say…..you got nothing to say….and this right quote of yours proves it….
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
With that being said,no bruce doesn't mass produce his own items, and no he doesn't win. Your arguments have said that you closely agree with me and are arguing for its own sake, good day.
Correction…my arguments states that batman does take prototype equipment…and it complelely stated that the said equipment was from his company…the prototype equipment that batman used was from wayne enterprices…now let me water this down for you if all the stuff batman used was from some company of his why is it that it has never been stated? (….since as you know batman does not mass produce his own items)…apart from being a the worlds greatest detective…batman is also an inventor…or are you trying to rewrite his character?….just answer the questions..
"Better fighter" is really relative...
I posted a rundown of what I believe are the advantages of each character a few pages ago... Now Batman obviously has the edge in fighting technical proficiency but when you take into account Spiderman's enhanced physical attributes more than negating that edge then in this particular match up Spidey has the advantage in overall fighting efficiency... i.e. Spidey is the "better fighter"
Originally posted by MetalmanxFlawed analogy.
Batman's fighting ability is really pretty futile in this fight. Spiderman's abilities alone make Batman's fighting ability useless.That's like matching Juggernaut vs. Batman.
Batman's fighting ability FAR exceeds Juggy's. So Batman wins, right?
Juggernaut is invulnerable, Spiderman is not so much.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Counter-argument: scientists that work for companies like Wayne enterprises... McScientists... wouldn't question where the technology they design goes and they wouldn't have right to because the patents would belong to the company. Scientists designing technology with military applications for companies may not always know that their innovations have military applications. Scientists designing Batman's tech may not know it has crime-fighting applications.
I agree with some of what you are saying…but what you are trying to say is that batman does not require the statue of inventor, which we both know that is not true..Now even if batman takes the tech from his scientists it would be nothing more but techno chips…little…little beats of piecies to a bigger puzzle that needs to be put together…and.now how does he know where what piece goes and what it is suppose to do..? If what you are saying is true then how do you explain Brother Eye..
besides if batman is doing this is probably to save him time so that he can focus more on the crime fighting…and if this is the case it is fine by me because it still does not diminish the fact that he creates most of his own stuff and design….
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Batman is smart he has some technical and scientific knowledge but he does not = Dr Reed Richards+Dr Henry Pym+Dr Hank McCoy combined like some like to think he does.
Just because batman does engagare in regular scientific feats dose not mean that he would not be able to understand how the ultimate nulifer works…Besides if people did not think that batman did not have the brains…he would not be constantly be pitted against the cream of the crop Mr. Reed Richards..
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There is no prep in this fight.. so imo Batman can not have pocket sized everything in his his utility belt in this fight. He would have standard items... which no one will narrow down for some reason.
Batman would have his standard items which are minaturize to fit inside his belts….and this is not prep….this is something that came with batman
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What's with all the Alien and Wolverine stuff btw?
Cordelmichelle started an alien and (Unarmed marines scenario) and ask for the wolverine one I don’t really know…