Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
No post that has been posted by any of us have ever been contradictory...as a matter of fact everything that was said about batman is fact....on like you from around pages 186 to 190 tired so desparetly to clear a contradictory statement that you made to Jinzin...

Batman is the better fighter...for reasons already stated that you could not do anything about…and why is batman not the better figher….J..And by the way we were not boasting actually we were because it is true and there is nothing you can do about it…😆…any ways don’t use this as an excuse not to answer my question cause I so want to see why you think spiderman is the better fighter…

Well then if batman works only on luck alone…then spiderman is going to lose using your logic…batman has been winning on luck against all his other opponents if batman found luck with all his other opponents….spiderman being another opponent is going to lose badly….with the item his has

It is your arguments that are weak if this is the best you can do against mine or anybodies for that matter..If you think my points are what you say they are in your last paragraph then point out where you think they are…and give your reason why…😆 anyways Fancy you should say what you said….cause when you got nothing to say…..you got nothing to say….and this right quote of yours proves it….

Correction…my arguments states that batman does take prototype equipment…and it complelely stated that the said equipment was from his company…the prototype equipment that batman used was from wayne enterprices…now let me water this down for you if all the stuff batman used was from some company of his why is it that it has never been stated? (….since as you know batman does not mass produce his own items)…apart from being a the worlds greatest detective…batman is also an inventor…or are you trying to rewrite his character?….just answer the questions..

You're too dense if you believe he's beating anyone head on, period.

Your posts contradict themselves,and you have yet to explain, how and why, bats would take an agressive hit from superman in the face and live.

Luck is your best argument? Thats poor logic there.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You're too dense if you believe he's beating anyone head on, period.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Luck is your best argument? Thats poor logic there.

And luck can be a bigger factor than most people realize, of course most people don't truly unsderstand what true chaos is. . .

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Besides if people did not think that batman did not have the brains…he would not be constantly be pitted against the cream of the crop Mr. Reed Richards..

That's really more an indication of people's misconceptions of Batman's scientific knowledge than actual evidence of scientific knowledge.

Imo Reed Richards>>>>>>Batman

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
No post that has been posted by any of us have ever been contradictory...as a matter of fact everything that was said about batman is fact....on like you from around pages 186 to 190 tired so desparetly to clear a contradictory statement that you made to Jinzin...

What fact? It isn't accurate, and i proved you wrong.

You: Batman took a punch from an angry superman in the face.

Me: Spiderman couldn't even hurt superman with a sufficient punch, he would hurt himself, so how would it make sense that Batman could LOGICALLY, survive a hit.

You: because he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is why you are a lost cause, I've beaten these "points" of yours long ago, and your batman worship won't let you see it.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Batman is the better fighter...for reasons already stated that you could not do anything about…and why is batman not the better figher….J..And by the way we were not boasting actually we were because it is true and there is nothing you can do about it…😆…any ways don’t use this as an excuse not to answer my question cause I so want to see why you think spiderman is the better fighter…

Because he would beat batmans' ass in an upclose match, period.

You need to seek help.

Batman's training alone isn't sufficient to put him above those in his league, if thats the case, Superman, Hulk, and Lobo would have been in the gym. Everyone's been past this point, why are you bringing it up, you are in denial.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Well then if batman works only on luck alone…then spiderman is going to lose using your logic…batman has been winning on luck against all his other opponents if batman found luck with all his other opponents….spiderman being another opponent is going to lose badly….with the item his has

You are using events, because you are not intelligent enough to explain how batman would be a reliable bet, if he relies on the luck of the right equipment in a random match, and the luck of it working in a random match.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
It is your arguments that are weak if this is the best you can do against mine or anybodies for that matter..If you think my points are what you say they are in your last paragraph then point out where you think they are…and give your reason why…😆 anyways Fancy you should say what you said….cause when you got nothing to say…..you got nothing to say….and this right quote of yours proves it….

Nothing much to say to you, because you, who knows bane has beaten batman before, thinks that spiderman can't.

Are you employed by warner brothers.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Correction…my arguments states that batman does take prototype equipment…and it complelely stated that the said equipment was from his company…the prototype equipment that batman used was from wayne enterprices…now let me water this down for you if all the stuff batman used was from some company of his why is it that it has never been stated? (….since as you know batman does not mass produce his own items)…apart from being a the worlds greatest detective…batman is also an inventor…or are you trying to rewrite his character?….just answer the questions..

He doesn't you are assuming. Notice assume has the word "ass" in it.

Worlds greatest detective? Well I hope he can detect this asskicking that he will recieve.

Seriously its guys like you who keep these threads alive, for the love of your character.

Originally posted by Scarletspider36
Batman is a queer, no powers, needs a side kick, his sidekick is usually robin the boy wonder sounds kinda gay, Ben Reily is the real spiderman, Toxin is Kewl

No, Reily is not the real Spider Man. He died due to the instability of his molecular structre because he was a clone.

A huge fallout in Batman's defense is that you could essentially take all of Batman's shit away, and kill him in his sleep. With Spider-Man, this cannot be done. The lack of superpower that Batman retains may only sharpen his rescourcefulness but that can only be hindered by the devices that he utilizes from being rich in the place of a superpower.

But to say that Batman's fighting abillity doesnt have a leg to stand on against spidey, is also weak. For example see the Taskmaster. But to say that supereme power is indeed supereme does hold water, for example, the Beyonder. The Beyonder is endlessly powerful, but has weak fighting ability.

Originally posted by Batman Wins
You guys are just mad because Batman realy could beat Spiderman. He took out Superman without kriptonite in ther crossover.

That was harsh...

Also, its not like batman hasnt beaten a weakened Superman without gadgets. Red Son he used Lex Luthor's tools to weaken Superman. It wasnt even his idea, it was all Lex.

Bane beat Batman, this is just an argument for the sake of it.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Why wouldn't Batman use his gadgets in any of these fights? This isn't just a h2h fight. If it does go that way Spiderman would clobber batman.

Exactly, making him the better fighter.

Spidey would wipe the floor with Batman.

AMEN!!
So would doc ock

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Advantage Spiderman
Strength (enhanced above levels attainable for nonempowered beings)
Speed (enhanced above levels attainable for nonempowered beings)
Agility (enhanced above levels attainable for nonempowered beings)
Reflexes (enhanced above levels attainable for nonempowered beings)
Maneuverability (enhanced above levels attainable for nonempowered beings
Defensive range (due to the fact that Spiderman can web swing and cling to walls)
Overall fighting efficiency (due to aforementioned enhanced traits more than negating technical proficiency)
Academic intelligence
Precognition

I do say that all of these batman has as well…along with every martial art practitioner’s in both the real world and the comic worlds….the only difference is spiderman is enhanced were everyone else is a 5….spiderman is a 10…to 15 in order of aspects..Martial arts works on Strength, speed, Agility, Reflexes, Maneuverability, Precognition (Not as good as spiderman…but it exist) Defensibility …batman has all these and on top of that he uses his gadgets to greatly enhance his own potential as it has been seen time and time again…so as you can see the advantage is not as great as you think

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Advantage Batman
Fighting technical proficiency (extensive knowledge of martial arts)
Weaponry (mainly because it's unspecified)
Strategic/tactical intelligence
Durability to piercing injury (bullet proof body armour)

When it comes to matters of the mind batman passes spiderman without any thought including Academic intelligence….by the way how is Academic intelligence an advantage for spiderman and not for batman? Correction on batman’s fighting technical proficiency batman does not just have an extensive knowledge of martial arts he has mastered all forms of combat…and to top it off batman uses the gadgets that he creates to make an even proficient fighter….

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Neutral
Durability to blunt force trauma injury - Spiderman's is genetically/physiologically enhanced while Batman's is artificially enhanced by his body armour.[
Experience - Batman should be 66 years old and Spiderman should be 43... instead since Spiderman started fighting crime in his teens, Batman began at an older age but as he's probably older I'm just assuming they have the same amount of experience overall.
Offensive Range - Spiderman has his webbing, Batman has unspecified projectiles weapons

Durability batman survived beatings from a superman under the control of red kryptonite…Lex Luthor: Man of steel issue # 3…exactly what does red kryptonite do to superman…?

Experience batman has this one…..while spiderman started working at his teens, he still moved with a child’s mentality which is try and error….it still build’s experience but at a slower rate….batman on the hand when he started he got wounded badly…before he came up with the batsuit…Batman profiles every enemy thus giving him an effective means of fighting them…batman stands to gain more experience this way and putting him self in less danger (he hardly confronts an enemy before he knows what he is getting himself into)…Remember that spiderman started as a teen who did not know what he was getting himself into but knew that with great power comes great responsibility…where as batman knew fully well the kind of life he is preparing to lead…(thus taking his work more seriously). Batman does not have luxury of durability (of couse there is the suit….so does this mean that he is suppose to stand in front of every bullet ,punch, car crash, and fall that come his way?)

Ask for Offensive Range…while spiderman has his webbing…and batman has unspecified projectiles??? So you are going to tell me that batarangs are unspecified projectiles and they don’t come in all shape and sizes..Right!!!!

Anyways when the stats between spiderman and batman are compared…of cause the obvious choice is going to be spiderman….that is why we look at their past feats..victory and loses to make an accurate assessment.

Originally posted by Batman wins
You guys are just mad because Batman really could beat Spiderman. He took out Superman without kriptonite in ther crossover.

I second that motion….

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It was argued to be a beserk superman from the future,and that he could take hits from darkseid.

Superman from the future and the one about darkseid all took place in superman/batman issue this is not something you take our hat…

Originally posted byMetalmanx
Batman's fighting ability is really pretty futile in this fight. Spiderman's abilities alone make Batman's fighting ability useless.

That's like matching Juggernaut vs. Batman.

Batman's fighting ability FAR exceeds Juggy's. So Batman wins, right?

Spiderman’s abilities may make Batman’s fighting ability useless but it does not change the fact that batman is the better fighter….besides spiderman also has to contend with batman’s numerous gadgets..

Spiderman is not juggernaut…and spiderman can be hurt more easily than juggernaut

Batman’s fight ability does exceeds Juggernaut but do I think that batman is going to do the touch of death on juggernaut..😆..he would sooner break every bond in his body before his fingers even touch Juggernaut…batman is not touching Juggernaut with some very very serious prep.

Spiderman is the better fighter in his own way.

HE is more intelligent than the juggernaut.

Stop arguing him victory in hand to hand, when its going to come from a hard mix of everything.

Cordera is right guys

Batman can't freaking beat EVERYONE! 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You're too dense if you believe he's beating anyone head on, period.

I am too dense...haven't I been the one saying that batman always goes around his opponent...😆...you do understand what I mean by around right.....listen do not try and turn my own words around because I know exactly what I have been saying...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Your posts contradict themselves,and you have yet to explain, how and why, bats would take an agressive hit from superman in the face and live.

OK since as you have gone through my post kindly show me where I contradicted my self.....🙂...this should be good

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Luck is your best argument? Thats poor logic there.

Luck is not my logic...it is yours....you are the one justifying batman's vicitory to be luck....not me....😆 Anyways following your logic ...I say ....

If luck is my best argument then so be it....and if batman has been winning all his other battle's via luck then for batman to win through luck....is going to be as easy as pie....aganist spiderman...:laugh...thanks

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I do say that all of these batman has as well…along with every martial art practitioner’s in both the real world and the comic worlds….the only difference is spiderman is enhanced were everyone else is a 5….spiderman is a 10…to 15 in order of aspects..Martial arts works on Strength, speed, Agility, Reflexes, Maneuverability, Precognition (Not as good as spiderman…but it exist) Defensibility …batman has all these and on top of that he uses his gadgets to greatly enhance his own potential as it has been seen time and time again…so as you can see the advantage is not as great as you think

When it comes to matters of the mind batman passes spiderman without any thought including Academic intelligence….by the way how is Academic intelligence an advantage for spiderman and not for batman? Correction on batman’s fighting technical proficiency batman does not just have an extensive knowledge of martial arts he has mastered all forms of combat…and to top it off batman uses the gadgets that he creates to make an even proficient fighter….

Durability batman survived beatings from a superman under the control of red kryptonite…Lex Luthor: Man of steel issue # 3…exactly what does red kryptonite do to superman…?

Experience batman has this one…..while spiderman started working at his teens, he still moved with a child’s mentality which is try and error….it still build’s experience but at a slower rate….batman on the hand when he started he got wounded badly…before he came up with the batsuit…Batman profiles every enemy thus giving him an effective means of fighting them…batman stands to gain more experience this way and putting him self in less danger (he hardly confronts an enemy before he knows what he is getting himself into)…Remember that spiderman started as a teen who did not know what he was getting himself into but knew that with great power comes great responsibility…where as batman knew fully well the kind of life he is preparing to lead…(thus taking his work more seriously). Batman does not have luxury of durability (of couse there is the suit….so does this mean that he is suppose to stand in front of every bullet ,punch, car crash, and fall that come his way?)

Ask for Offensive Range…while spiderman has his webbing…and batman has unspecified projectiles??? So you are going to tell me that batarangs are unspecified projectiles and they don’t come in all shape and sizes..Right!!!!

Anyways when the stats between spiderman and batman are compared…of cause the obvious choice is going to be spiderman….that is why we look at their past feats..victory and loses to make an accurate assessment.

In terms of physical traits you can't seriously argue that Batman is very close to Spiderman. Batman is peak human. Spiderman is superhuman.

In your opinion he creates the gadgets from scratch in my opinion he takes innovative tech and applies/adapts it to his crimefighting needs on a budget of a vast fortune. In your opinion (from what I can tell) Batman = Mr Fantastic in terms of scientific knowledge. In mine Reed Richards>>>>>>Spider-man>Bruce Wayne in scientific knowledge.

It is comic fact that Spiderman's webshooters were a personal feat of novel innovative engineering and design and that he created a formula for an novel artificial compound with the tensile strength of web, all on the very limited budget... because he was a teenager when he created these innovations.

As for durability are you seriously arguing that Batman has some magic Cytorrak imbued armour that can take full on punches from Superman? And even if he did there's a nice opening in his face for Spidey to punch.

Your psychological speculation has nothing to do with whether or not Batman or Spiderman have more experience.

I wrote unspecified projectiles because no one will specify the quantity or particulars of what is in his utility belt other than he has batarangs "and other things".

If we ignore all logic, reason and stats and just look at feats well Spiderman beat up Firelord 😛