Originally posted by newjak86you tell em pops!
Well thats true and yet not right. If you are in alot of fights then yes you will pick up some basics but it isn't the same as actually combat training. Plus Spidey normally doesn't really have to fight do to his advanced skill levels he never really has to fight in toe to toe match ups as his overpowering abilities are normally enough. For instance you put Spidey on a football field and hand him the ball everyplay no one is gonna be able to take him down. He doesn't even practice so even though he plays alot of games he still doesn't know how the game is really played in terms of technique. Batman on the other hands trains to fight. He then understands basic fighting skills and such the Spidey will learn through hard knocks but then Batman also understands high level abilities that you can only achieve through training and learninf fighting. Trust me this is how it works. Batman has trained to be a better fighter he is a better fighter.
Some one will say it sooner or later. Im in other threads other than Batman vs but im in Batman Vs More because I know alot about Batman, so I listen what the other side says, And counter it on what Batman would do.
Batman and Spiderman are my two most favorite charachters, and then comes Xmen and the Flash. I would go in aobbertron vs Megabeaf because I have no idea what they could do.
Originally posted by 8bitChris
The difference, for the most part, through-out this whole debate has been solid evidence versus intangibles.For example,
Fact:
Spiderman is faster, (much much) stronger, more agile, and the list goes on. It's not a knock to Batman. It's just that Spiderman is super human and Batman is not.Intangibles:
Batman will think of a way to win.On paper, it's common sense that Spiderman wins a random pick-up battle.
Of course, if you're a comic book writer, you can write a way for Batman to win. It happens all the time to both characters. It wouldnt' be any fun if the heroes weren't facing insurmountible odds. However, as far as stats go. Spidey should take it easily.
Thank you.
Originally posted by Batman Wins
Ok thank you, that what I was trying to proove.I say how does spiderman dodge
You say Spiderman dodged a car with easeYou say Spiderman gets knocked out By Spiderman with one punch
I say Darkseid is stronger and hit him before along with grundy, but didnt get knocked out.See all I was doing is just answering in questions on how he would survive a punch from Spiderman. Then you say thats the only reason the threads alive
How can I proove that he could take a punch from Spiderman without getting knocked out , without giving that example. Just like you cant say to proove to me Spiderman could dodge things.
I know Spidey is more agile than Batman, and is faster, I was just trying to proove the point above.
No its not proving or not proving, its that batman isn't able to survive those punches full on from within his own ability, sure they are there to make the comic look good.
Batman isn't bullet proof, and he is human, therefore it is feasible that spiderman can kill him in one hit
Originally posted by 8bitChris(In Ed McMahon voice) YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!
The difference, for the most part, through-out this whole debate has been solid evidence versus intangibles.For example,
Fact:
Spiderman is faster, (much much) stronger, more agile, and the list goes on. It's not a knock to Batman. It's just that Spiderman is super human and Batman is not.Intangibles:
Batman will think of a way to win.On paper, it's common sense that Spiderman wins a random pick-up battle.
Of course, if you're a comic book writer, you can write a way for Batman to win. It happens all the time to both characters. It wouldnt' be any fun if the heroes weren't facing insurmountible odds. However, as far as stats go. Spidey should take it easily.
Originally posted by Batman Wins
Maybe against him, but I just told him above that its a no prep match, but you seemed to skip it, and assume every person defending Batman, Says what he says.
Do you see the arguments of people supporting batman's side?
The arguments 100's of pages ago, before I arrived.
I didn't say all said that, but many do, and its annoying and is a coolness argument.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Do you see the arguments of people supporting batman's side?The arguments 100's of pages ago, before I arrived.
I didn't say all said that, but many do, and its annoying and is a coolness argument.
What they say is none of my concern.
Am I one of those people you speak of ?
Even if he had the Batplan Bats would get distracted...............
http://www.superdickery.com/seduction/38.html
Originally posted by newjak86
Well thats true and yet not right. If you are in alot of fights then yes you will pick up some basics but it isn't the same as actually combat training. Plus Spidey normally doesn't really have to fight do to his advanced skill levels he never really has to fight in toe to toe match ups as his overpowering abilities are normally enough. For instance you put Spidey on a football field and hand him the ball everyplay no one is gonna be able to take him down. He doesn't even practice so even though he plays alot of games he still doesn't know how the game is really played in terms of technique. Batman on the other hands trains to fight. He then understands basic fighting skills and such the Spidey will learn through hard knocks but then Batman also understands high level abilities that you can only achieve through training and learninf fighting. Trust me this is how it works. Batman has trained to be a better fighter he is a better fighter.
Exactly. The fact that he doesn't need as much effort in a particular fight, makes him that much more a better fighter because bats would need more effort to win, and will push himself further.
It doesn't make him the better fighter CM just the more dangerous Batman skills are far better than anything Spidey has in his combat arsenal simply because he has trained to understand how a fight works. That means he is the better fighter but he is just to outclassed in stats to win against Spidey in a fist o cuff.