Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by newjak86
It doesn't make him the better fighter CM just the more dangerous Batman skills are far better than anything Spidey has in his combat arsenal simply because he has trained to understand how a fight works. That means he is the better fighter but he is just to outclassed in stats to win against Spidey in a fist o cuff.

Why wouldn't he be the better fighter if he won the fight.

He is the most efficient fighter, bats is the most proificent fighter, means little when you lose the fight.

Spiderman's fighting style is more unorthodox and harder to counter anyway, you know that fighting styles were meant to counter one another.

Would you rather have super strength, speed, agility, wall sticking, equilibrium, and pre cog.

Or martial arts training?

😆 They still think he could beat Spiderman.

I guess they get excited, when they see Batman beat others with no powers. Batman acts kool, looks kool. takes no crap, and goes in the shadows. I could see why you don't want him to loose to, a nerd guy that got bitten by a Spider, and says smart ass remarks. Spidey is kool now, see.

Batman can't beat the man.

I know what your saying now. You are saying that Spidey is the better person because he is the winner. I am saying Batman is the better skilled of the two. Spidey might have his own style but it isn't like a formal fighting style that he trains everyday it is a just a kinda fighting rhythm he got into because of his advanced abilities. It isn't like he could sit down adn teach someone else it it is mostly instincts.

Originally posted by newjak86
I know what your saying now. You are saying that Spidey is the better person because he is the winner. I am saying Batman is the better skilled of the two. Spidey might have his own style but it isn't like a formal fighting style that he trains everyday it is a just a kinda fighting rhythm he got into because of his advanced abilities. It isn't like he could sit down adn teach someone else it it is mostly instincts.

At his age he has developed it fine.

Thats the problem, people keep saying "formal" fighting styles, it doesnt matter because batman could "never" duplicate the way that spiderman fights.

Anyway i wish this thread were dead... 🙁

Yes this thread should die it really isn't a debate anymore Batman really only has a slim chance at winning.
He may not be able to duplicate it doesn't change the fact he trains to be the better fighter. He trains to understand how to beat someone. Basically Spiderman just relies on his super powers to do the same thing.

Originally posted by newjak86
I know what your saying now. You are saying that Spidey is the better person because he is the winner. I am saying Batman is the better skilled of the two. Spidey might have his own style but it isn't like a formal fighting style that he trains everyday it is a just a kinda fighting rhythm he got into because of his advanced abilities. It isn't like he could sit down adn teach someone else it it is mostly instincts.

SO even you know Spiderman Wins.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yes this thread should die it really isn't a debate anymore Batman really only has a slim chance at winning.
He may not be able to duplicate it doesn't change the fact he trains to be the better fighter. He trains to understand how to beat someone. Basically Spiderman just relies on his super powers to do the same thing.

He TRAINS to be the better fighter, but it does little because he can NEVER reach that gap.

I can train my entire life to run, I can have the best shoes for comfort, learn the proper technique and poise, but can I outrun a cheetah, not on my life.

Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
SO even you know Spiderman Wins.

He already did, we just like to do this when there's nothing better to do.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He TRAINS to be the better fighter, but it does little because he can NEVER reach that gap.

I can train my entire life to run, I can have the best shoes for comfort, learn the proper technique and poise, but can I outrun a cheetah, not on my life.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yes he trains to know more about it. He understands which punches do more damage which kick is more effective aginst certain people. Understanding the human anatomy to better understand how to take people down. The ability to read an oppents movements. How to counter other attacks without leaving yourself open. These are only things you can get through formal training. Spidey is always gonna beat Batman down in one on one match up but that is due to his better stats. Batman will never be able to bridge that gap but do to his training he is still the more skilled fighter. Spidey is just to overpowering is all. It's like Spidey could never win against Superman.

No its not.

I knew alot about leverage and stuff before my formal training, in fact most of the people trained around nowadays haven't even been in a fight before.

Batman is the more trained fighter, but thats it, not the better fighter, if that was the case, lobo and hulk would've been in a dojo long ago.

A person with the I.Q of 80 would know that hits to the temple, throat, stomach, kidneys, knees, and ribs would disable an opponent quicker, spiderman is no exception. He knows tons about the human anatomy.

Spiderman staggered the hulk with a hit across the neck, its good technique and all, bats wouldn't survive.

Spiderman needs LESSSSSS effort than batman to do a effective injury, and a fatal one for that matter.

Yes but that doesn't change the fact that Batman trains to understand how each move works and practices many differente fighting stlyes so he has a move for almost any occasion. I have been in many fights before as well and I learned enough to understand the basics but that was it. When me and my dad play around and fight he still whoops me despite me being bigger stronger faster and in more shape why because he was in the army and understands how to fight. Stuff you just can't learn without formal training. Since then my Father has taught me some of his army training and you get a better understanding of how to fight. I have since been able to beat my dad now. I'm not saying that Batman's training will ever be able to bridge a gap that big that's why I say he looses but he is still the most skillful fighter of the two. He fights in the streets as well so he has Battlefield training with formal training.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yes but that doesn't change the fact that Batman trains to understand how each move works and practices many differente fighting stlyes so he has a move for almost any occasion. I have been in many fights before as well and I learned enough to understand the basics but that was it. When me and my dad play around and fight he still whoops me despite me being bigger stronger faster and in more shape why because he was in the army and understands how to fight. Stuff you just can't learn without formal training. Since then my Father has taught me some of his army training and you get a better understanding of how to fight. I have since been able to beat my dad now. I'm not saying that Batman's training will ever be able to bridge a gap that big that's why I say he looses but he is still the most skillful fighter of the two. He fights in the streets as well so he has Battlefield training with formal training.

127 styles means little, its how you apply one.

You have the basic styles, lock, grab, reach, and close, the other ones are fillers, batman would never cycle through that many, this isn't a turn based battle.

Spiderman has a style that batman will have a hard time countering, because styles are made to counter each other.

Spiderman's style is harder to predict, detect, and defend against.

How would you like a 30000 lifter going at max velocity of mach one, attacking your knees?

Army training isn't all flashy, but is about getting the job done, as long as you have focus, direction, and application you will be fine.

I know that is my point thoug hyou give spdiey's fighting stlye and give it to a normal human it would be an eneffective fighting style. The only reason it works is because it is nothing more than basic fighting knowledge mixed with superpowers. If you give Batman's Spidey's powers he would be a better Spiderman because he knows more about fighting and brings better skills.
Now of course he will never go through everyone but due to him being in actuall fights with his formal training means that he will have a fighting style for almost any attack against him. It also means that he is more focused because no matter the situation his training is as much mental as physical. This all points to him beinbg the more skilled fighter just not the one that can win.

Originally posted by newjak86
I know that is my point thoug hyou give spdiey's fighting stlye and give it to a normal human it would be an eneffective fighting style. The only reason it works is because it is nothing more than basic fighting knowledge mixed with superpowers. If you give Batman's Spidey's powers he would be a better Spiderman because he knows more about fighting and brings better skills.
Now of course he will never go through everyone but due to him being in actuall fights with his formal training means that he will have a fighting style for almost any attack against him. It also means that he is more focused because no matter the situation his training is as much mental as physical. This all points to him beinbg the more skilled fighter just not the one that can win.

Thats understood, but you can give spiderman batmans gadgets.

Batman is physically outclassed in most of his matches anyway, my point is that batman is the most skilled fighter, but not the most efficient fighter, and the winner is the better fighter.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Thats understood, but you can give spiderman batmans gadgets.

Batman is physically outclassed in most of his matches anyway, my point is that batman is the most skilled fighter, but not the most efficient fighter, and the winner is the better fighter.

Yes, I agree, batman is more skilled, spiderman is more efficient in h2h.

Question, would you say bats wins in pure h2h?

I think in oure combat he gives people like Wolverine runs for their money but in pure h2h thats it.

cool, thanks for that...

No problem it's the truth only so much can be made up for by being the more skilled fighter.

yep