Batman vs Spiderman

So you just prove my point. Hes dangerous not because of pshysical stats but because he carries plot devices in the desguise of weapons and gadgets.

Ok. Now that you know the truth, you might get it better.

One nitpick tho. Some of those list works on humans, not someone whos superhuman. And not someone with Spiderman`s powerset.

"Because his parents died at a young age and he's devoted himself to a life if justice and rigerous training.
Makes as much sense as being bit by a spider and developing superpowers"

No it doesnt. He never got even with training above peak human or slighty below. He doesnt have - any - superhuman stats.

After Peter got biten at first and gained powers he was already stronger than Bruce. Training matters in skill, not phsysical stats here.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
True, but when you put that beside someone like Batman, it doesn't seem so.

Well lets say experience, to righten my fallacy...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
So you are saying he's physically on-par with spiderman?

Answer this, so I can know if I can take you seriously or not...

Like I said before...
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power. In the end, I say The Batman's intelligence and counter-measures coupled with his ability to rapidly decipher any enemies strengths and weaknesses instantaniously [being the greatest detective] will do Spidey in, as I believe his combat prowess knowledge, martial arts and awareness put him at least on Spidey's level in a front-on battle.

I believe he can CONTACT as strong as Spiderman, and the way villains recieve his blows, it's quite apparently that he in fact DOES. His feet in No Mans Land dented one of the tempered steal quake-resistant beams that support Wayne Manor in the Batcave. And this is a pulled kick he threw at his own son.

In Bruce Wayne murder I mean

Originally posted by Juntai
Repeat myself day .. .

[QUOTE=4657493]Originally posted by Juntai
[B]Like I said before...
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while [b]not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power. In the end, I say The Batman's intelligence and counter-measures coupled with his ability to rapidly decipher any enemies strengths and weaknesses instantaniously [being the greatest detective] will do Spidey in, as I believe his combat prowess knowledge, martial arts and awareness put him at least on Spidey's level in a front-on battle. [/B]

Instantaneously? How, is he superman, can he exploit spiderman, because peter isn't as exploitable.

Do you see your fallacy? You are saying that batman hits harder than spiderman.

Imagine a 30000 lifter with the starting VELOCITY of(300-400) mph in the first second hitting you in a joint.

Peter is brilliant as well, you are basically using coolness arguments, how does batman do more damage in his hits than spiderman?

Peter is capable of killing, and definitely ko'ing batman in ONE hit, convince me otherwise.

Originally posted by Juntai
I believe he can CONTACT as strong as Spiderman, and the way villains recieve his blows, it's quite apparently that he in fact DOES. His feet in No Mans Land dented one of the tempered steal quake-resistant beams that support Wayne Manor in the Batcave. And this is a pulled kick he threw at his own son.

You seem to forget that spiderman PULLS his punches, a human punching him the wrong way, after he grabbed it, would break their hand.

Do you think that batman can defeat spiderman in a h2h battle?

It sounds like you do...

Peter is brilliant as well, you are basically using coolness arguments, how does batman do more damage in his hits than spiderman?

By punching him in the temple, which will instantly drop Peter, which Peter wouldn't do to Batman.

Do you think that batman can defeat spiderman in a h2h battle?

I do, seeing as how Daredevil and Captain America have.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
By punching him in the temple, which will instantly drop Peter, which Peter wouldn't do to Batman.

He used a chop on the Hulk which staggered him..

its not hard to find a vital point and take advantage of it, and when you have that much strength, precision isn't as needed.

The chances of batman hitting peter in the head are slim to none, in a one on one fight.

Also keep in mind that peter's musculstature and skeleton are stronger, therefore he is more durable.

Anything batman has to do to incapacitate peter, would take ALOT more concentration and effort on his behalf.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
I do, seeing as how Daredevil and Captain America have.

Read above, its going to take ALOT more effort.

Spiderman has taken it to venom in bloodlust, and defeated a stonger and an opponent that dampened his senses.

Thats him in high gear.

"Like I said before...
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power. "

If hes not as powerful and strong, he doesnt hit harder.

"I do, seeing as how Daredevil and Captain America have"

Im curious, what wer the circustances? None of both btw hit harder than Spidey, they have the advantage tho of knowing him and his style. But overall theyr physical stats are higher than Batman.

Originally posted by olympian
"Like I said before...
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power. "

If hes not as powerful and strong, he doesnt hit harder.

"I do, seeing as how Daredevil and Captain America have"

Im curious, what wer the circustances? None of both btw hit harder than Spidey, they have the advantage tho of knowing him and his style. But overall theyr physical stats are higher than Batman.

He was hypnotized with Daredevil, and its a crossover, but it did happen.

DD said peter was too much for him...

Here they would be webbed and smashed effectively, at least 8/10.

No, I'd daresay Daredevil is Batman's physical equal in strength if not sub-par, his superior in agility, and inferior in fighting skill and weaponry. He has taken down an enraged Spider-Man in a hand-to-hand fight.

No, it's not a slim chance of Batman striking Peter in a fight. Just like with Batgirl, if Spider-Man throws a strike and misses, he's open to whatever technical, precision strike Batman decides to use. Yes, Batman can dodge a punch from Spider-Man.

I don't know why I'm even arguing this anymore. I already said my thoughts of this fight being 5/10 if not giving the edge to Peter.

"He was hypnotized with Daredevil, and its a crossover, but it did happen"

Wait wait, did that happened during the event of Atlantean`s attacks or something? I have that one.

Not only he admit Spidey was better but also Spidey didnt lost. Even hipnotized he was giving troubles to DD.

"No, I'd daresay Daredevil is Batman's physical equal in strength if not sub-par, his superior in agility, and inferior in fighting skill and weaponry. He has taken down an enraged Spider-Man in a hand-to-hand fight"

When i say better physical stats its overal. Hes more agile and has better senses. DD inferior to figthing skills? I dont agree there. And if thats the fight we talked about Spidey being hipnotized was still doing better.

"Yes, Batman can dodge a punch from Spider-Man."

Im not arguing that. But hes not going to be able to block all punches because hes not faster than Spidey. Spiderman otoh is going to dodge more easily and hit more.

After carefull consideration. Batman is not winning this, if he doesn't know anything about Spiderman. In the comics, batman always looses most of the time, agaisnt some one better than him, in different ways, then he crawls back to his cave, for a day, and comes back to kick their butt. Spiderman dodges, the Batarangs, webs Batman, and when batman, is trying to escape, he hits batman, with alot of punches, knocking him out.

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Originally posted by Wanderer259
No, I'd daresay Daredevil is Batman's physical equal in strength if not sub-par, his superior in agility, and inferior in fighting skill and weaponry. He has taken down an enraged Spider-Man in a hand-to-hand fight.

No, it's not a slim chance of Batman striking Peter in a fight. Just like with Batgirl, if Spider-Man throws a strike and misses, he's open to whatever technical, precision strike Batman decides to use. Yes, Batman can dodge a punch from Spider-Man.

I don't know why I'm even arguing this anymore. I already said my thoughts of this fight being 5/10 if not giving the edge to Peter.

Yes he can dodge, but he is open to moreso than peter, because he's slower, the chances are working against him to do the same thing.

Peter dodges and counters like batman, but with less skill. he dodges and counters faster and harder, so that makes him better in a hand2hand fight.

I could see bat winning with gadgets, hand to hand, no not really.

Without a plan, Batman will be hard pressed to win. If he did have time, however, this would be significantly easier for him.

I'm just trying to say that it's simply not as easy as all that for Spider-Man to win.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Without a plan, Batman will be hard pressed to win. If he did have time, however, this would be significantly easier for him.

I'm just trying to say that it's simply not as easy as all that for Spider-Man to win.

It is in hand 2 hand, this is a random fight, he's relying on too many intangibles here, too much luck.

Spiderman would counter batman AT LEAST 10/1

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
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Whats you're problem ?

Originally posted by Logan 87
Whats you're problem ?

see thats a joke, calm down...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
see thats a joke, calm down...

No he said crap in like 3 other threads.

Originally posted by Logan 87
No he said crap in like 3 other threads.

Is that a big deal?

Do you hate wolverine then?