Originally posted by Juntai
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=61590
Man throws 347 Martial Arts punches in less than a minute.
And with Batman, each of those -could- be deathblows.
That's funny. If Batman can throw 347 Martial Arts punches in less than a minute, SM can AT LEAST throw 2000 Martial Arts punches in less than a minute.
Oh yeah, when SM wants, ONE punch is enough to knock Batman down.
Nice try. Not.
Originally posted by Juntai
Or at least that he could survive long enough for his ULTIMATE intelligence, cunning and combat prowess to win him over in the fight.
You have to remember that none of those guys I posted are PEAK HUMAN. They are just the best so far. So imagine a guy that can throw a punch 6 times per second, and can dead lift a truck many times, pull 747s, is the best martial artist on the planet, has the very best in gadgets gear and survival and combat devices, Can leap like 30 feet, and run like 30mph in sprint and carry about 20mph over great distances.. The very best combat tactician, and is arguably the smartest man there is. I have no clue how this guy would utilize these abilities, I don't have them for myself at first hand knowledge
THATS WHY I GO BY THE ****ING COMIC.
Where Batman SURELLLLLYYYYYYYY beats people that would kill Spidey before he could blink!
Originally posted by Juntai
THATS WHY I GO BY THE ****ING COMIC.
Where Batman SURELLLLLYYYYYYYY beats people that would kill Spidey before he could blink!
Batman beats powerful villains. Good for him. But so does Spider-Man.
Your point has been nullified.
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power. In the end, I say The Batman's intelligence and counter-measures coupled with his ability to rapidly decipher any enemies strengths and weaknesses instantaniously [being the greatest detective] will do Spidey in, as I believe his combat prowess knowledge, martial arts and awareness put him at least on Spidey's level in a front-on battle.
Originally posted by Juntai
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power.
An unpulled punch of Spider-Man is like some kind of rocket launcher. Do you honestly believe Batman has even half the strength of that ?
When SM hits Batman on his chin (unpulled), that's like firing a shotgin in Batmans face.
Batman can shatter skulls with his punches too.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
His martial arts skill derives him the ability to do many multiple times his strength in FEATS. Such as small chinese men shattering concrete. Who probably couldnt even lift the concrete.
And we're talking about a PEAK HUMAN [See the feats above, moving 747s, lifting trucks as weights]
doing many multiple times his strength in feats.
Now I'm not saying he's going to take Spidey in a fist fight.... all of this I believe personally, will just afford him the time to decipher the strengths and weaknesses in Spidey's attack, and use it against him, and defeat him. It would only take one of the smartest beings in the universe a few moments to do this.
Which is the Batman way of defeating foes.
You're acting like Spidey can just rush over and smash him.
But Superman couldnt do it
Hulk couldnt do it
Spawn couldnt do it
X Men couldnt do it
Darkseid couldnt do it
Daredevil couldnt do it
In fact, Batman has only three real defeats that I can recall.
One to Bane, after several days of constant movement, fighting, running, without a moments rest.
One to Deathstroke.
And one to Prometheus, and he had to upload himself with Batman's abilities and martial arts manuevers.
And he utilized any weakness in every one of these battles, and any one of MILLIONS of others.
And in intelligence, Batman is considered lesser to only Brainiac[s?] and Luthor.
He's outsmarted Metron, and Darkseid [so much he gave him props for it!], and technically in No Mans Land he outsmarted Luthor too.
And he is nearly unmatched in combat prowess and combat tactician.
Like I said before...
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power. In the end, I say The Batman's intelligence and counter-measures coupled with his ability to rapidly decipher any enemies strengths and weaknesses instantaniously [being the greatest detective] will do Spidey in, as I believe his combat prowess knowledge, martial arts and awareness put him at least on Spidey's level in a front-on battle.
Now quit trying to use "He's faster and stronger" as a cop out of how Spidey could win and following by downplaying Batman's abilitys, when it's clear in the comic book that Batman can accurately dodge bullets and punches from people who rival the strongest and fastest in the universe. And also deliver blows fast and hard enough to sit someone on Spidey's calliber down.
Originally posted by Juntai
You have to remember that none of those guys I posted are PEAK HUMAN. They are just the best so far. So imagine a guy that can throw a punch 6 times per second, and can dead lift a truck many times, pull 747s, is the best martial artist on the planet, has the very best in gadgets gear and survival and combat devices, Can leap like 30 feet, and run like 30mph in sprint and carry about 20mph over great distances.. The very best combat tactician, and is arguably the smartest man there is. I have no clue how this guy would utilize these abilities, I don't have them for myself at first hand knowledgeTHATS WHY I GO BY THE ****ING COMIC.
Where Batman SURELLLLLYYYYYYYY beats people that would kill Spidey before he could blink!
Wow, dude. You have some CRAZY views on what peak human is.
You honestly think that Batman is smarter than Reed Richards? Dr. Doom? Hank McCoy even? Not by a LONGSHOT.
If Batman can do all of that, how come he can't beat Deathstroke?
batman is NOT susceptible to a speed blitz. bats has foght a man named zeiss who had sped-up reflexes, and photographic memory. LITERAL photographic memory. he can see things superhumanly, and in his own mind played back batmans moves in frame-by-frame slow motion. even though he was "faster" and studied bats moves frame-by-freaking-frame, bat still won. speed blitz,... what speed blitz?
Originally posted by Juntai
You're acting like Spidey can just rush over and smash him.But Superman couldnt do it
Hulk couldnt do it
Spawn couldnt do it
X Men couldnt do it
Darkseid couldnt do it
Daredevil couldnt do itIn fact, Batman has only three real defeats that I can recall.
One to Bane, after several days of constant movement, fighting, running, without a moments rest.
One to Deathstroke.
And one to Prometheus, and he had to upload himself with Batman's abilities and martial arts manuevers.And he utilized any weakness in every one of these battles, and any one of MILLIONS of others.
And in intelligence, Batman is considered lesser to only Brainiac[s?] and Luthor.
He's outsmarted Metron, and Darkseid [so much he gave him props for it!], and technically in No Mans Land he outsmarted Luthor too.
And he is nearly unmatched in combat prowess and combat tactician.Like I said before...
Faster and stronger has never really been a downfall for Batman, and while not as openly powerful as Spidey, his blows are no less equal in power. In the end, I say The Batman's intelligence and counter-measures coupled with his ability to rapidly decipher any enemies strengths and weaknesses instantaniously [being the greatest detective] will do Spidey in, as I believe his combat prowess knowledge, martial arts and awareness put him at least on Spidey's level in a front-on battle.Now quit trying to use "He's faster and stronger" as a cop out of how Spidey could win and following by downplaying Batman's abilitys, when it's clear in the comic book that Batman can accurately dodge bullets and punches from people who rival the strongest and fastest in the universe. And also deliver blows fast and hard enough to sit someone on Spidey's calliber down.
So...you're saying...that Superman...could not rush in and clock Batman? Because Batman carries Kryptonite perhaps?
I only bring Superman up because he's the fastest out of those. Batman has the ability to dodge the others.
Except the X-men. When did he take on the X-men? I don't recall that one at all.
Spiderman has no weaknesses, first of all. Second of all, you give all this information for Batman, but you give Spiderman no credit. Like he's just going to stand there. You don't think that Spiderman has demonstrated amazing tactical skills? As well as probably being far more resourceful than Batman.
You people really need to stop using the bullet dodging thing. He dodges where the gun is pointing before it's shot. He doesn't actually dodge the bullet, just where the gun is pointing. If Batman were standing still, the bad guy took aim and fired, Batman would not be able BY FAR to move fast enough to dodge the bullet.
You're forgetting that Batman has never gone against anyone who has all of Spidey's abilities in one person before. Especially the precognition. No matter how many steps Batman thinks he is above Spidey, Spidey will always be at least a step ahead of him. Spidersense and all.
Gah...you're gonna give me carpal tunnel syndrome if I keep this up.