Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by jinzin
i don't know if I'd take spiderman's ego boasts as solid evidence for what he can or can't do....otherwise you're treading over your own arguments.......

Spider-man has SUPERHUMAN speed. Batman has HUMAN speed. Spider-man is faster (In fact he is a lot faster than your average human) but regardless, even if you think he is a notch faster.........he is still a lot faster. Without prep in this fight Bats is screwed...........

If you do that equation about him being 40 times faster... based on saying that an average person can do it in 15 seconds, which is something even some junior high kids could do, albeit fast for their age.... Spiderman would be able to run a mile in six seconds.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Was that sarcasm or sincerity?

"It's a good thing this is only xxx lbs and I lift xxx, it should be a piece of cake." The only place we have the numbers are in their profiles. Which as I said before could be wrong.

Seeing as how they say Cap is Peak human, meaning the most a human could do, and he lifts less than what a real human can do, we have a problem with them not updating the characters.

I remember reading profiles somewhere and they were using the phrase "possesses the strength of a man his height and build who engages in intense regular exercise" or something like that to describe somebody. I prefer this kind of method. I think size is a big part in "peak human" strength. Cap is strong, but I doubt he's stronger than somebody like Kingpin. Cap's strength should be described as "superior to a man his height and build who engages in intense regular exercise"

Originally posted by brainchild81
I remember reading profiles somewhere and they were using the phrase "possesses the strength of a man his height and build who engages in intense regular exercise" or something like that to describe somebody. I prefer this kind of method. I think size is a big part in "peak human" strength. Cap is strong, but I doubt he's stronger than somebody like Kingpin. Cap's strength should be described as "superior to a man his height and build who engages in intense regular exercise"

The old marvel universe handbooks:

If I recall peak human is correlated to body size, typically someone lifting twice their body weight, or a considerable amount more than they weigh, is classified peak human. This is typically lifting up to 800lbs, beyond which someone would fall into enhanced and superhuman levels of strength.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If I recall peak human is correlated to body size, typically someone lifting twice their body weight, or a considerable amount more than they weigh, is classified peak human. This is typically lifting up to 800lbs, beyond which someone would fall into enhanced and superhuman levels of strength.

I think Mark Henry did that.

Originally posted by jinzin
doesn't mean he has super human speed does it?

i mean hell stats only put him at a 12% advantage....

and feats well...............it gets even worse for spidey where feats are concerned...

You are full of shit, I already busted you here.

By saying that you are implying that batman and other peak humans are 13-14x faster than a normal human, and they are just BARELY over an olympic person.

Show me where the hell people are 14x faster, stronger, more agile, etc. in the olympics.

I didn't think you could.

Peak human is what a person can attain, but at the max, you are saying they are superhuman.

Don't post this tripe.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
I am the one who came here and stated that batman survived a punch from a ticked off superman from the future....in superman /batman issue number 2....I am the one who came and said that batman survived a beating from superman under the control of red kryptonite (well we did not get to see the beat down but everything pointed towards the end of the comic....right down to the glowing red eyes of superman with his hand pulled back to strike at a floored batman looking up at the man of steel) you can find this in Lex luthor: Man of steel issue number 3.....and most recently again in wounder woman's comic..Sacrifice or Omac Protect issue number 4 (I think )batman got beaten again by superman only this time Max Lord ordered superman to stop for we already had a broken and unconscious batman...

Why did I review all this to show that dc has allot of faith in batman's suit..to be able to make him take punishment after punishment....after punishment...batman can very well roll from a punch from a superman who is not out for his head....My reasoning batman is not afraid of superman's super strength or most of his other powers but his speed (you can find a statement like this in HUSH issue number 612...batman said something to the effects of "He can use his super speed and crush me"😉

Why did I bring this up just to show that batman's suit gives allot of protection....this about even things out whether people want to believe it or not.....don't get me wrong spiderman is every bit batman's superior in every physical aspect but this has never stop batman from taking more than he can chew....this is exactly why I am spilt right down the middle spiderman getting the first 5 and batman getting the second 5 matches....lets face facts if batman wins the first match spiderman ain't winning no other matches...

Anyways I am going to take a page from the Mister (the guy foresaw this reply and I commend him for it) I am not up for closing this thread but if you guys want to close it go ahead because since 205--to this very last page 266 evidence after evidence have been provided as to why batman would win where as you guys (that is most of you guys) just focus your main arguments on batman being gay, and also character assassinating batman (in order words creating your own batman)...don't get me wrong from time to time you guys came back with a vengence but that was just it "time to time" where as evidence on the batman side was just packing up and growing...I am good whether this thread stays open or closed...and I am pretty sure those who are on my side would agree..

Yea how is pro wrestling not real?

Um the ones who are on your sides are superfans, and don't do much else but the, "he's xxx argument."

Spiderman lifts 15 tons, and you aren't going to tell me that batman will roll from that and get right up, you're crazy.
He moves foward to a strong fist, and BLAM!!!

Go on rotten.com, and look up shotgun suicide please, because you can't ROLL out of that.

Use logic, jeez...

Originally posted by Brainchild81
I remember reading profiles somewhere and they were using the phrase "possesses the strength of a man his height and build who engages in intense regular exercise" or something like that to describe somebody. I prefer this kind of method. I think size is a big part in "peak human" strength. Cap is strong, but I doubt he's stronger than somebody like Kingpin. Cap's strength should be described as "superior to a man his height and build who engages in intense regular exercise"

Cap is stronger than the Kingpin - Fisk is just huge. Cap wasn't given just peak human strength, he was given the perfect human physique in every possible way. No one person can out-do Cap's physical performance without having technological, magical, or power-based help. No human can get to Cap's level - they'd literally have to be physically perfect.

I've seen Fisk crush a man's skull with a good deal of effort. I've seen Cap spin a man's head backwards by punching him in the jaw.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Cap is stronger than the Kingpin - Fisk is just huge. Cap wasn't given just peak human strength, he was given the perfect human physique in every possible way. No one person can out-do Cap's physical performance without having technological, magical, or power-based help. No human can get to Cap's level - they'd literally have to be physically perfect.

I've seen Fisk crush a man's skull with a good deal of effort. I've seen Cap spin a man's head backwards by punching him in the jaw.

Yep, Cap is the pinnacle of what a human can achieve...

Originally posted by jinzin
and yet dock ock and spiderman are always gonna beat wolvie by piling cars on him....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm 🙄

not you man...just don't get why the rules only apply when in spidey's favor...

Still sore about spiderman and ock, they pound him in many delightful ways, that you should get over.

The funny thing is he always saying "beneifit of location", then he turns around and says wolverine beats namor.

Last time I checked, water was roughly 3/4 of the earth.

And Batman could beat both of them, while in a straightjacket, and iron balls attached to his ankles, then escape, take down the x men plus avengers, interupting their sweet crossover to kick ass, then uses Gladiators own force against him, makes his confidence think he can't beat a peak human, then gives him too a reason to always fear the bat, just like everyone else that steps to Batman, good, bad, super or not.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not even a bats supporter persay just tryin to show peops they need to how him the proper respek

Bats was a little overrated last I checked...

Originally posted by Juntai
And Batman could beat both of them, while in a straightjacket, and iron balls attached to his ankles, then escape, take down the x men plus avengers, interupting their sweet crossover to kick ass, then uses Gladiators own force against him, makes his confidence think he can't beat a peak human, then gives him too a reason to always fear the bat, just like everyone else that steps to Batman, good, bad, super or not.

oh, you have shown me the light...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
oh, you have shown me the light...

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Cap is stronger than the Kingpin - Fisk is just huge. Cap wasn't given just peak human strength, he was given the perfect human physique in every possible way. No one person can out-do Cap's physical performance without having technological, magical, or power-based help. No human can get to Cap's level - they'd literally have to be physically perfect.

I've seen Fisk crush a man's skull with a good deal of effort. I've seen Cap spin a man's head backwards by punching him in the jaw.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine would be technological based due to his adamantium, right?

Right.