Batman vs Spiderman

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Originally posted by Whobdamandog
Which would you consider to be the more impressive feat in terms of strength..

Lifting several grown men over ones head, or the ability to hold up a building structure?

Which instance is 'more impressive' is irrelevant in determining whether or not Logan has any degree of superhuman strength.

Wolverine's top strength has always been alleged to be in the 800 lb - 1000 lb range by Marvel when he has his adamantium skeleton. His strength is stated to be a bit above an average man without it.

As far as the jumping ability goes..I have to wonder why Wolverine doesn't show this jumping ability more when fighting in battles. And I don't recall Marvel ever listing him to be superhumanly agile..

Marvel also doesn't list Spider-Man as having superhuman speed or being superhumanly agile, either.

I wouldn't say that he "shrugged it off"...however..he is visibly hurt, dazed and disoriented. The Rhino is a class 80 level character, with a near invulnerable hide. He's taken blows consistently from Rhino, as well as Doc ocks tentacles, Hulk, Venom(Class 25 - 30), Carnage, Titania, and many others in the Superhuman range. Based on this, I think its a safe bet to say that his durability level is quite a bit higher than that of a peek human.

Well, since it's all relative, if Spidey's 10-ton (he was only pressing 10 at the time of those instances) level of strength can withstand blows from those 10x as strong as himself, why can't those 10x less as strong as himself survive his blows just fine?

Bad science again. The faster your body heals an the less suceptible it is to injury, the more durable an individual is. If I hit you, and it takes you a month to recover from the blow, where as it takes me a day...I'd say my body can endure quite a bit more punishment than yours.

In the larger spanning definition of 'durability' perhaps, but not in his ability to absorb damage and keep fighting. He isn't Wolverine. You can't cut him and watch the gash close itself within seconds. Any damage Spidey receives will stay 'in effect' during a fight.

So how is Wolverine jumping 3 stories in the air, any more plausible than him surviving a nuke?

If he has any degree of superhuman strength at all, it's plausible. Although according to the definition of Wolvie's 'super-strength', it doesn't seem like he should be able to apply it to jumps and leaps. Unless he's been upgraded like everyone else.

Spiderman has gotten up from the charge of a stampeeding "Rhino" to his midsection. Albeit he was definatley the worse for wear, however, he still has managed to survive this and many other Superhuman blows to his body countless times. Batman does not contain enough strength in his body to significantly damage SM, hurt him yes..seriously injure him..no..

Better example. 😄

...Why is Wolverine even in this conversation? Stop arguing about Wolverine's healing factor and durability. We all know what he can do.

Now, Batman has no healing factor and peak human durability. Spiderman has low superhuman durability and low superhuman healing factor. There really is no way that Batman could hit Spiderman (save for like...the balls or eyes) that would really damage Spiderman at all. Now, everywhere that Spiderman hits on Batman would be a critically damaging blow.

That and Batman will never land a finger on Spidey while Spidey would be landing all his hits on Batman (and by all, I mean like...maybe three at the most).

Batman CANNOT win this fight. Once again, Spiderman wins.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Why is Wolverine even in this conversation? Stop arguing about Wolverine's healing factor and durability. We all know what he can do.

Now, Batman has no healing factor and peak human durability. Spiderman has low superhuman durability and low superhuman healing factor. There really is no way that Batman could hit Spiderman (save for like...the balls or eyes) that would really damage Spiderman at all. Now, everywhere that Spiderman hits on Batman would be a critically damaging blow.

That and Batman will never land a finger on Spidey while Spidey would be landing all his hits on Batman (and by all, I mean like...maybe three at the most).

Batman CANNOT win this fight. Once again, Spiderman wins.

In h2h, no questions asked. Spiderman could take on ten gorillas or more. . .

threads gotten out of hand. It should die. There are mental disorders within spidy lovers and bat lovers. (SPiderman will win of course, seing as Batmans body will not take a 15 ton punch). And it should just die. Lets not argue anymore heh heh.

his body takes those punches just fine since he can roll out of them and since spiderman's only hitting with a fraction if his lifting power since he doesn't know how to throw a punch properly... AND because batman's gotta a suit that can stop this...

Originally posted by jinzin
his body takes those punches just fine since he can roll out of them and since spiderman's only hitting with a fraction if his lifting power since he doesn't know how to throw a punch properly... AND because batman's gotta a suit that can stop this...
It's not quality in this case that I'm thinking about. . . it's quantity.

Spiderman could probably hit batman more times than batman could hit spiderman.

Batman knows instant death moves tho...?

he could sure..but getting in close is a bad thing to do...what happens when bat's acid sprays him, or gases him, gives him the touch of death, nails him with 50,000+ volts of electricity, or nails him with the sonic frequency emitor?

he's just too dangerous up close....

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Why is Wolverine even in this conversation? Stop arguing about Wolverine's healing factor and durability. We all know what he can do.

Now, Batman has no healing factor and peak human durability. Spiderman has low superhuman durability and low superhuman healing factor. There really is no way that Batman could hit Spiderman (save for like...the balls or eyes) that would really damage Spiderman at all. Now, everywhere that Spiderman hits on Batman would be a critically damaging blow.

That and Batman will never land a finger on Spidey while Spidey would be landing all his hits on Batman (and by all, I mean like...maybe three at the most).

Batman CANNOT win this fight. Once again, Spiderman wins.

yeah how on earth did wolverine get into this conversation? 🙄 yes you are correct,spiderman would win and the fight would be over within a couple minutes at the most,the people like jinzin who think bats would have a prayer are living in denial and in a fantasy world.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
yeah how on earth did wolverine get into this conversation? 🙄 yes you are correct,spiderman would win and the fight would be over within a couple minutes at the most,the people like jinzin who think bats would have a prayer are living in denial and in a fantasy world.

Says the guy with the spiderman name, avy and sig.

Originally posted by jinzin
he could sure..but getting in close is a bad thing to do...what happens when bat's acid sprays him, or gases him, gives him the touch of death, nails him with 50,000+ volts of electricity, or nails him with the sonic frequency emitor?

he's just too dangerous up close....

Yeah, the gadgets are what gives bats his chance.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
yeah how on earth did wolverine get into this conversation? 🙄 yes you are correct,spiderman would win and the fight would be over within a couple minutes at the most,the people like jinzin who think bats would have a prayer are living in denial and in a fantasy world.

I'm assuming you say this because your batman knowledge is limited...it's okay...that's what real denial is...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, the gadgets are what gives bats his chance.

yeah i've said that before..his skills should be enough to keep pace though...batmans as good a human can get...another human "the white ninja" completely negates spiderman's speed and spider sense with his own training...spiderman had to win via plot device....

his skills allow him to keep pace, his qadgets open up the possibilities for victory...

5/5

this is funny. This is alot of pages.

if you look at my message at the bottom I hate the spiderman movies,they dont do the comics justice,also I am a guy who is more objective than most spidey fans,most spidey fans I have talked with on who would win in a fight between rogue and spidey blindly pick spidey but at least I am rationale enough to say that would not happen that rogue would win.I am rational enough to say that spidey would losr against rogue and supes,you guys need to learn to be rational enough to deal with it that spidey would easily beat bats.

oh he would....if his spider sense was infaulable, his speed 40x that of the bat, and his stoping power in his punches up to his 15 ton lifting weight....

to bad that ain't the way things are for him...

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm assuming you say this because your batman knowledge is limited...it's okay...that's what real denial is...

no bats is a very close 2nd to spidey as being my favorite comicbook character and I have a huge knowledge of bats,I am just not blinded by reality like you guys are and dont feel the need to go on fooling myself.Like I said,at least I can accept that spidey would not stand a chance against supes or rogue,too bad you two cant accept it that bats would not have a prayer against spidey. 😛

Originally posted by Mr Parker
if you look at my message at the bottom I hate the spiderman movies,they dont do the comics justice,also I am a guy who is more objective than most spidey fans,most spidey fans I have talked with on who would win in a fight between rogue and spidey blindly pick spidey but at least I am rationale enough to say that would not happen that rogue would win.I am rational enough to say that spidey would losr against rogue and supes,you guys need to learn to be rational enough to deal with it that spidey would easily beat bats.

Batman drops a regutation grenade
spidey starts puking uncontrollably
and Batman applies a death-blow or nerve shot that knocks him out.

I dont know about Spidey, but when a normal person is puking they can do very little than to curl over as their stomach twists itself in knots and the entire esophogus opens up. But maybe he has super spidey anti puke powers

wtf my post is gone.....

okay physically supes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spiderman

rogue>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spiderman

spiderman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>batman.

cause of batman's skill spiderman>>>>>>>>>>>>batman

cause og his gadgets and other spiderman/batman

it's not a big stretch if spiderman had huge amounts of formal training like batman he wouldn't be so far below the other two either...but he doesn't...

it's not our fault spiderman as proven to regularly get his butt whooped by extremely talented h2h fighters...

Originally posted by jinzin

it's not our fault spiderman as proven to regularly get his butt whooped by extremely talented h2h fighters...

And it really doesnt get much more talented, capable and quick thinking. Unless maybe Deathstroke...