Originally posted by jinzinYeah, like speed agility and Spider-sense😮 Nightwing was there also. Don't forget that.
nope not at all.... just that he can take a freaking superpowered punch.... one hit's not going to put him down... a barrage of hits is not going to put him down....and finally... I covered most of this crap...a severely depowered amazo still put him farrrrrrr above spidey in terms of overall powerlevels
Originally posted by jinzinDid he have strength, speed, reflexes, agility AND precog on Spidey's level? Didn't think so
... and batman also jacked up an amalgamated general/amazo hybrid...how about steel wolf.. dude with a considerable amount of supertrength.. he couldn't put batman down in a h2h fight either... hmmmmmm
Too many people are oversimplifying here. One guy is more powerful than the other, therefore he wins? A man's intellect is more important than anything else in a fight. Look at the Duel from Revenge of the Sith. Anakin was much more powerful than Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan was the victor because he had a greater mind. That's the way it is with Batman. He's always prepared. Preparing is about the most intelligent thing anyone can do when faced with a seemingly insurmountable problem. Even when given only a single second, Bats will make damn good use of that time. Spider-Man relies purely on his powers in fights. Batman knows every unarmed fighting style there is. What good is a wall-shattering punch when your opponent knows how to anticipate it, dodge it and turn it to his advantage?
Originally posted by DarkAge
Too many people are oversimplifying here. One guy is more powerful than the other, therefore he wins? A man's intellect is more important than anything else in a fight. Look at the Duel from Revenge of the Sith. Anakin was much more powerful than Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan was the victor because he had a greater mind. That's the way it is with Batman. He's always prepared. Preparing is about the most intelligent thing anyone can do when faced with a seemingly insurmountable problem. Even when given only a single second, Bats will make damn good use of that time. Spider-Man relies purely on his powers in fights. Batman knows every unarmed fighting style there is. What good is a wall-shattering punch when your opponent knows how to anticipate it, dodge it and turn it to his advantage?
Batman would beat spiderman mentally
Originally posted by DarkAge
Too many people are oversimplifying here. One guy is more powerful than the other, therefore he wins? A man's intellect is more important than anything else in a fight. Look at the Duel from Revenge of the Sith. Anakin was much more powerful than Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan was the victor because he had a greater mind. That's the way it is with Batman. He's always prepared. Preparing is about the most intelligent thing anyone can do when faced with a seemingly insurmountable problem. Even when given only a single second, Bats will make damn good use of that time. Spider-Man relies purely on his powers in fights. Batman knows every unarmed fighting style there is. What good is a wall-shattering punch when your opponent knows how to anticipate it, dodge it and turn it to his advantage?
No, they over estimate Batman, because he is " Kool". He has no ****ing prep, and Spiderman, isn't a dumb ****, he is a smart mother ****er, with powers.
Originally posted by DarkAge
Batman is a smarter mother****er, a better trained mother****er, an older and more experienced mother****er, and generally just a badder mother****er.
Spiderman GOT ****ING, POWERS, and hes smart, so how the ****, is Batmans, bat ass, going to hit spiderman, with a SPIDER SENSE, which is a EARLY mother ****ing, warning system. This bat ****, does not have preptime, so he can only hope his ass, has shit in his belt, but he still, can't hit aguy, with a SPIDERSENSE, and his web, is some sticky shit, so Batman can't move.
Originally posted by 8bitChris
Yeah we can play, "He did this and he did that" all day with these two characters. They are both in thousands of comics and have done thousands of amazing feats. At the end of the day all we can really fall back on is powers. Spiderman trumps Batman in that category and takes this fight.What i'm seeing here on this thread is all the..."Batman did this! Batman did this!" but none of the Batman defenders are being nearly objective enough to give Spiderman his fair share of the cut.
I liked Spiderman's joke in the latest issue of MK when that girl pulls a gun on him and he says something like, "A gun lady?!? Do you know how many guns have been pulled on me?!? Do you think you're going to get the lucky shot?" I got a chuckle out of it.
in the same token superman stopped bullets from hitting batman he showed bats the bullets and batman just looked at him and said "I dodge bullets on a daily basis"... the thing is thus: I truly don't believe that when you have such 3demensional characters as these that it's as simple as powers versus nonpowers... for what batman lacks in power he makes up for in raw talent... what he lacks in super powers he makes up for in gadgets, what he lacks in durability he makes up for with his suit... what he lacks for in speed he makes up for in anticipation and planning four moves ahead...
this is why i think this fight would be a stale mate....
Originally posted by jinzin
unless the gy you're aiming at is bruce wayne... it also depends how far apart we are, or if you can hit a target, it's just not as simple as all that.
Asscream, come on, without prep time, batman can't beat Spidey, because they are like the same.
Batman and Spiderman are smart.
if batman got bitten by a radioactive, spider, then he would be better than parker, but unti then, bats need prep time, to win.
asscream? i certainly hope you are not reffering to me as such...
you honsetly expect people to respect your opinion throwing out ridiculous and childish insults like that?
any way, no... spiderman and batman are as different as night and day...
spiderman is more of a happy go-lucky type.. even when the chips are downhe'll hide behind his false bravado as if nothing were wrong.
batman embraces his dark side and is not humorous in the least..
spiderman was given his powers on a silver platter
batman works hard evey dayof his life to kep his abilities up to par
spiderman is intelligent.
batman is intelligent, but while he has book smarts like peter he also has a strategic mindset, a more cunning mind.
peter thinks up things on the fly
batman plans for things 4 moves ahead of them happening...
peter doesn't use his inteliigence to further boost his (un)natural arsenal and simply goes out there with what he's got...
batman packs himself with weapon after weapon, enough tools gedgets and devices to be ready for every possible scenario he can think up...
spiderman has no formal training
batman has TONS of formal training
while they do share numerous amounts of similarities the differences can't be discarded...
Originally posted by jinzin
asscream? i certainly hope you are not reffering to me as such...you honsetly expect people to respect your opinion throwing out ridiculous and childish insults like that?
any way, no... spiderman and batman are as different as night and day...
spiderman is more of a happy go-lucky type.. even when the chips are downhe'll hide behind his false bravado as if nothing were wrong.
batman embraces his dark side and is not humorous in the least..
spiderman was given his powers on a silver platter
batman works hard evey dayof his life to kep his abilities up to par
spiderman is intelligent.
Oh, don't be offended, thats just how i talk. Yeah, Superman got his shit, handed to him, but doesn't mean alot of people could beat him, without it being a set up, just for the comic. i love Batman, but I can't say he wins, because Batman, is a master of preptime, and thats what he does. He looks up people, then he kicks there ass, and thats what makes him Batman. this thread, said he has none, so I don't see him winning. So, he won't go down in 5 seconds, but he still looses.
batman is intelligent, but while he has book smarts like peter he also has a strategic mindset, a more cunning mind.peter thinks up things on the fly
batman plans for things 4 moves ahead of them happening...
peter doesn't use his inteliigence to further boost his (un)natural arsenal and simply goes out there with what he's got...
batman packs himself with weapon after weapon, enough tools gedgets and devices to be ready for every possible scenario he can think up...
spiderman has no formal training
batman has TONS of formal training
while they do share numerous amounts of similarities the differences can't be discarded...
the prep time thing is something batman is more well known for.. the thing is batman kicks the crap out of numerous metahumans and superhumans.. I mean he knocked out a new god of apocalypse...
while he's more noted for his undeatable nature when given prep... his numerous upon numerous feats of beating superpowered oponents go discarded by people who don't know enough about batman to accurately comment on the subject...
the examples I've given over the last few pages are but a handful of many...