"saying Batman's first defeat was on his VERY FIRST NIGHT!!"
fisrt off...Iv'e been using a plethora of different examples from all over his history......and second...do you realize that bruce's first night crimefighting was when he was 15 and was still learning his skills?
"Batman didn't have on his pajamas!!! "
dude...again just proving that you don't read too much batman.....seriously he's commented about the subject several times....saying that after dawning the suit he became more than a man entirely...his words not mine....
"one second he's mastered every martial art known to man and the next second he's sent running by a group of thugs and some cops? I know that you don't want Spidey to chop Bat's cause there'd be no defense to that."
once again i'd like to see these examples you're reffering to......batman hasn't done this since his campy comic run back in the early 60's and like I said spidey's been put on the run by common thugs as well.....not much of an example...
my point....if you knew thing 1 about lady shiva you would realize the error of the comparison......and know that she's actually intimidated by batman to somextent......
the whole choppining thing is goofy....that's all....how would spiderman know he needed to do so?....in 95% of his fights he uses brute strength...and punches things....you guys claimed that batman wouldn't figure out his spidey sense....but spiderman's gonna realize his punches aren't working and revert his fighting style? wierd........
anyways we still cool....sorry if you think I seem frusturated....if I am it's only due to the lack of character knowledge on this board.......as was clearly demonstrated with the bane comment.....bane's an extraordinary fighter with abnormal strength and speed for a human even before his venom injections......his fighting ability's on par with batman.....