Batman vs Spiderman

Started by The MISTER343 pages

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Are you saying that smackdown, RAW, ECW, are all fake. That they are scripted. Ok some of the things that they do out side the ring may seem as if it was planned. But once they in that ring it is all business.

Luchalibre to me looks like they planned everything from who is going to win to who gets to be run around the ring.

But none the less are you implying that Smackdown, RAW, ECW are fake. Becasue I assure it ain't.

No way man I like them to much to even begin to imply that the punishment these guys take is fake in any way.... but as I've gotten older the scripted cheating has lost a lot of appeal. 🙁 Pro- wrestling and olympic wrestling are two different sports events entirely. Much respect is due to all the athletes. 😮‍💨

"We tried that, but people(Who think Bats would win) kept bringing them up. So I was like, if they wanna use'em I can too. "

that's fine if you want to use them....but if you're going to do that.....then don't tell people not to use the one's that aren't in your favor...it's very hipocritical....

I didn't. I said don't use the one voted on by fans(fanboys). That makes sense to me and it should make sense to you. Crossovers are known to have bad writing. That's why I tried to avoid using them. Why do people wanna pretend that bad writing doesn't exist? Have you never read a story that didn't make sense to you? Are ALL of the stories great?

Originally posted by jinzin
that's not the point you were making before..and all these points I've already debated......hmmmmmm
You may be bored with this debate as I am but I have responded to all your arguments... frankly I feel I covered all the points. Batman's not as much of a master as you'd assume because his defenses are easily penetrated by skilled combatants like the lady Shiva and The riddler's bodygaurds. Bane equals his level of skill before venom takes venom and falls to jean paul valley. Batman survives scripted scenario's that no human being at all could and you believe him to be more than a human but so what, he's not a Superhuman and a chop from Spidey(not a punch,slap, or something he could roll, with) would breack him harder than Banes soft knee. Sorry Buddy 😄

Originally posted by jinzin
"We tried that, but people(Who think Bats would win) kept bringing them up. So I was like, if they wanna use'em I can too. "

that's fine if you want to use them....but if you're going to do that.....then don't tell people not to use the one's that aren't in your favor...it's very hipocritical....


jinzin, do you say that the Batman is equalled by bane without venom?

"Batman's not as much of a master as you'd assume because his defenses are easily penetrated by skilled combatants like the lady Shiva and The riddler's bodygaurds"

oh please....he's stated as a master of 127 styles whether that's ridiculous or not...it's the way he's been written.......lady shiva?...oh man.....she's practically the female counterpart to dc's karate kid....the only other female that's equal to her unarmed combat is possibly the new batgirl.......in otherwords....bad example....again..
riddler's bodygaurds?....you mean like all 20 of them? please spiderman almost got downed by 20 henchmen.......

"Bane equals his level of skill before venom takes venom and falls to jean paul valley."

ah yes.....after his jugular had been cut....after his venom supply was severed...and after jean paul used every projectile weapon he had in his arsenal to bring him down.........again....bad example.....

"Batman survives scripted scenario's that no human being at all could and you believe him to be more than a human but so what, he's not a Superhuman and a chop from Spidey(not a punch,slap, or something he could roll, with) would breack him harder than Banes soft knee. "

I believe he's not just some average human...that's for sure......and since when does spiderman regularly go around chopping people....again you're giving him prior knowledge to batmans abilities.......knowing that punches might not work......and again you're assuming that bat's won't do this......... as soon as spiderman gets up close.....

jinzin, do you say that the Batman is equalled by bane without venom?

........yes.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Woah. You must be joking! Otherwise you just showed me something that lets me know you have no place in this debate. The winners are predetermined.

What is your prove? And if it predetermined then how come all the wrestlers have not become world heavy weight champion?

Originally posted by The MISTER
No way man I like them to much to even begin to imply that the punishment these guys take is fake in any way.... but as I've gotten older the scripted cheating has lost a lot of appeal. Pro- wrestling and olympic wrestling are two different sports events entirely. Much respect is due to all the athletes.

I do not see the cheating as being scripted, you either know how to cheat and get away with it or you don't. Pro-Wrestling and olympic wrestling two different things agree with you.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
What is your prove? And if it predetermined then how come all the wrestlers have not become world heavy weight champion?

I do not see the cheating as being scripted, you either know how to cheat and get away with it or you don't. Pro-Wrestling and olympic wrestling two different things agree with you.

How old are you?

Originally posted by jinzin
jinzin, do you say that the Batman is equalled by bane without venom?

........yes.

then if bane is his equal h2h that proves that Batman's H2H is just overated. I didn't want it to end like this but responses are sounding frustrated and opinionated.( Bad example after bad example huh...) You've got some nerve talking about hypocrisy using Spidey's first fights as examples and saying Batman's first defeat was on his VERY FIRST NIGHT!! very impressive 😆 but you say BAD EXAMPLE!!! FOUL!!! Batman didn't have on his pajamas!!! C'mon man listen to yourself... one second he's mastered every martial art known to man and the next second he's sent running by a group of thugs and some cops? I know that you don't want Spidey to chop Bat's cause there'd be no defense to that. 😉 But Spidey has chopped , can chop, and should chop Batman right in the neck ending this debate once and for all.

You still cool with me man 🤣 😮‍💨 😎

"saying Batman's first defeat was on his VERY FIRST NIGHT!!"

fisrt off...Iv'e been using a plethora of different examples from all over his history......and second...do you realize that bruce's first night crimefighting was when he was 15 and was still learning his skills?

"Batman didn't have on his pajamas!!! "

dude...again just proving that you don't read too much batman.....seriously he's commented about the subject several times....saying that after dawning the suit he became more than a man entirely...his words not mine....

"one second he's mastered every martial art known to man and the next second he's sent running by a group of thugs and some cops? I know that you don't want Spidey to chop Bat's cause there'd be no defense to that."

once again i'd like to see these examples you're reffering to......batman hasn't done this since his campy comic run back in the early 60's and like I said spidey's been put on the run by common thugs as well.....not much of an example...

my point....if you knew thing 1 about lady shiva you would realize the error of the comparison......and know that she's actually intimidated by batman to somextent......

the whole choppining thing is goofy....that's all....how would spiderman know he needed to do so?....in 95% of his fights he uses brute strength...and punches things....you guys claimed that batman wouldn't figure out his spidey sense....but spiderman's gonna realize his punches aren't working and revert his fighting style? wierd........

anyways we still cool....sorry if you think I seem frusturated....if I am it's only due to the lack of character knowledge on this board.......as was clearly demonstrated with the bane comment.....bane's an extraordinary fighter with abnormal strength and speed for a human even before his venom injections......his fighting ability's on par with batman.....

Like ive stated, Batman relies on gadgets and once out of his lil' trinkets, hes gone.

Spiderman will always have his strength and senses, while batman will begin to falter without his toys.

Original posted by brainchild81
How old are you?

Old enough to know when I am being lied to.

Did Edmacman call all the wrestlers in his office and told them today Eddie Guerrero you will betray and slam Ray Mysterio on the floor possible breaking his neck? Or today tripple H you will take a sledge hammer to Batista head? or the Nature Boy (Rick Flare) you will gain Batista trust then when he is not looking you give him a low blow to nuts. So that Tripple H can have the upper hand? On top of that the broken legs, broken arms, broken necks, in-general broken anything where all scripted?

You see my friend I know exactly what I am talking about. And have my reason to believe that what these poeple do is far from being scripted. Out side the ring it is another matter though.

Back on the case at hand, I am voting for batman and you are voting for (insert name here)?

Like ive stated, Batman relies on gadgets and once out of his lil' trinkets, hes gone.

Spiderman will always have his strength and senses, while batman will begin to falter without his toys.

That is why batman tries to end encounters as quickly as he gets in to them.

What are you talking about?!

Just stating my opinion on why I think pro-wrestling is not scripted or predetermined.

OK I am a HUGE fan of Batman but I know that Bats can't win this unless he can somehow get Spidey to inhale some knockout gas and even that is slim seeing how Spidey got some nasty senses and agility and reflexes. Without the gas Bats is going down. I can't believe that this thread lasted even 10 pages let alone 76

Originally posted by Superherovandal
I can't believe that this thread lasted even 10 pages let alone 76

If you knock down the Dark Knight, the Batman fans will come back more powerful than you can ever imagine !

😄

I was debating awhile. But once people couldn't find a way to respond to my points they just started ignoring what I was saying.

Talking to yourself is boring 🙁.

Originally posted by jinzin
"saying Batman's first defeat was on his VERY FIRST NIGHT!!"

fisrt off...Iv'e been using a plethora of different examples from all over his history......and second...do you realize that bruce's first night crimefighting was when he was 15 and was still learning his skills?

"Batman didn't have on his pajamas!!! "

dude...again just proving that you don't read too much batman.....seriously he's commented about the subject several times....saying that after dawning the suit he became more than a man entirely...his words not mine....

"one second he's mastered every martial art known to man and the next second he's sent running by a group of thugs and some cops? I know that you don't want Spidey to chop Bat's cause there'd be no defense to that."

once again i'd like to see these examples you're reffering to......batman hasn't done this since his campy comic run back in the early 60's and like I said spidey's been put on the run by common thugs as well.....not much of an example...

my point....if you knew thing 1 about lady shiva you would realize the error of the comparison......and know that she's actually intimidated by batman to somextent......

the whole choppining thing is goofy....that's all....how would spiderman know he needed to do so?....in 95% of his fights he uses brute strength...and punches things....you guys claimed that batman wouldn't figure out his spidey sense....but spiderman's gonna realize his punches aren't working and revert his fighting style? wierd........

anyways we still cool....sorry if you think I seem frusturated....if I am it's only due to the lack of character knowledge on this board.......as was clearly demonstrated with the bane comment.....bane's an extraordinary fighter with abnormal strength and speed for a human even before his venom injections......his fighting ability's on par with batman.....


Chopping is an easy transition and is in no ways goofy... The only reason that you don't see Spidey do it much is because it would kill an opponent....Truly Batman's skull would burst like a dirt clod from one punch but you're convinced that Batman can roll with a cannon ball to the face and jump up unfazed. I'm not convinced but I'll give you that...Only thing is no defense would protect Bat's from a simple chop from Spidey... Batman's really out of his league here and I'm just trying to convince you so I guess I'll just agree to disagree with you cause you are a good debator and I've really enjoyed doing this so .... God bless ya man I've got to depart from further debate for quite a while....seriously....I don't have a choice. 🙁 🙂

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
What is your prove? And if it predetermined then how come all the wrestlers have not become world heavy weight champion?

I do not see the cheating as being scripted, you either know how to cheat and get away with it or you don't. Pro-Wrestling and olympic wrestling two different things agree with you.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Old enough to know when I am being lied to.

Did Edmacman call all the wrestlers in his office and told them today Eddie Guerrero you will betray and slam Ray Mysterio on the floor possible breaking his neck? Or today tripple H you will take a sledge hammer to Batista head? or the Nature Boy (Rick Flare) you will gain Batista trust then when he is not looking you give him a low blow to nuts. So that Tripple H can have the upper hand? On top of that the broken legs, broken arms, broken necks, in-general broken anything where all scripted?

You see my friend I know exactly what I am talking about. And have my reason to believe that what these poeple do is far from being scripted. Out side the ring it is another matter though.

Back on the case at hand, I am voting for batman and you are voting for (insert name here)?

One of these days you are going to look back on these posts you are making and have a big laugh. Sometimes accidents like broken necks happen but the winners ARE predetermined. The reason why not everyone has held the title is because the writers don't think certain people would generate revenue or ratings as champ or just back-stage politics. I feel bad about telling you this. But I'd rather it be me than somebody who'd poke fun @ you. Batista knew what Flair was going to do. He was acting like he didn't. That's what he gets paid to do. I used to love watching wrestling, but I don't watch it like that anymore because it's become the "Let's give HHH the title as much as possible" show. If you want to see real fighting & wrestling, watch The Ultimate Fighter if they have another seaon or order one of the UFC PPVs. I sincerely hope that the other people who think Batman would win don't share your opinions on the "reality" of WWE. If so, I'm wasting my time here.