No offence to you Ock, but Doc Ock is such a bad villain.
Villains are supposed have superpowers just like the super hero, well at least I think they should.
Ock Isn't strong, he is an overweight man who happend to get super strong tenticles welded into his spine. Ock doesnt do any of the fighting, its his 4 extra arms.
I dunno, I'm not saying he wasn't cool to watch, but he is just lame.
Originally posted by Symbiotica
That wasn't an "insult," it was a plain statement of fact. You assume my post was aimed directly at you, which is not necessarily the case. If it were I would have private-messaged it.However... do spare me the "Ooooo, I am famous/wealthy/powerful in real life, if you knew who I was you would bow on trembling knee!".... because somehow I really, really doubt it. I have heard that line a million times and I absolutely do not believe you are *any* kind of celebrity or corporate big wheel, nor do I believe you command endless wealth and can have me tracked down and brutalized by your army of private thugs.
There are few things more pathetic than that kind of flame.
So, GG1 and Octavius were not "big villains in the Spider-Man mythos"? Interesting news. One more time, my point is not that Venom is not a "big" villain but that Raimi holds all villains in rather low esteem. He certainly has yet to display a qualm about getting rid of them onscreen. Why would he spare Venom? He's spared no one else.
1. If the post wasn't aimed at me, then you should've said that. You posted in response to something I said, and then continued it by asking me if I was pleased that easily, then said that comment. I think everyone else would agree that it'd be natural for me to assume it was directed towards me.
2. I have never said I'm famous, wealthy, or anything along those lines, so don't put words in my mouth, and certainly, don't start adding to the stuff you make up. I said if you knew who I really was, you wouldn't think of me as one of the pieces of garbage that is ruining the world.
3. Once again, you're putting words in my mouth. Did I say, at any time, that Ock and Green Goblin weren't big villains? No. Look back, I didn't, and there's no way you're telling me that I did.
Originally posted by Evil SeeD
Dude have you seen the movie..?? Ocks mind is controlled by those arms.. not him... 😉
I was talking more about the comics. He's not as good in the movies, this is true. NoFate, Symbiotica, the fight is honestly pretty dumb. Symbiotica, you don't know NoFate, and you have no right to judge him or anything he does. Stop starting fights, or I'm reporting you to the mods. NoFate, don't waste time indulging her. It just gives her reason to keep talking.
Originally posted by Evil SeeD
No offence to you Ock, but Doc Ock is such a bad villain.Villains are supposed have superpowers just like the super hero, well at least I think they should.
Ock Isn't strong, he is an overweight man who happend to get super strong tenticles welded into his spine. Ock doesnt do any of the fighting, its his 4 extra arms.
I dunno, I'm not saying he wasn't cool to watch, but he is just lame.
Thanks for that pointless post.
But I really don't care what you think of Ock 😉
Originally posted by Marcus4600
I was talking more about the comics. He's not as good in the movies, this is true.
That's what annoys me about Raimi.
GG was pretty well written,but looked terrible in that green plastic suit.
Ock looked awesome,but was changed in the movie,so the tentacles have A.I. that warp his mind.
I can't wait to see what he's done to Sandman.We already know he has a wife and kid 🙄
Actually I've got some time to kill,so let me dissect this post 😈
Originally posted by Evil SeeD
No offence to you Ock, but Doc Ock is such a bad villain.
A criminal genius,who tries to blow up cities,take over the world,forms the Sinister Six,is the first villain to defeat and unmask Spider-Man etc is such a bad villain??
Maybe to you.
I guess a suicidal loser who get's a symbiote,and suddenly has a brain eating fetish is supposedly cooler 😉
Villains are supposed have superpowers just like the super hero, well at least I think they should.
Ock has a super power.He can mentally control those tentacles with his mind.Even when they're not attached to him.
Without his symbiote,Venom is a just a normal guy.All you need is a little fire or noise,and it peels right off him.
Ock Isn't strong
With his tentacles he is.
he is an overweight man who happend to get super strong tenticles welded into his spine. Ock doesnt do any of the fighting, its his 4 extra arms.
Well DUH!!!
That's why he's called Doctor Octopus.His weapons are his mentally controlled tentacles.
I dunno, I'm not saying he wasn't cool to watch, but he is just lame.
Well your standards of what's cool and what's lame are definitely questionable.
Lame villains don't last for over 40 years and become the solo villain of major blockbuster movies 😉
^ Actually, I disagree. Both have similar base abilites, but they use them much differently. Carnage is much more of a fan of the shape shifting tendrils he hass. If you read Mind Bomb and It's A Wonderful Life, you'll see that he prefers to slice and rip with his tendrils. Venom, however, prefers to use his muscles and teeth, and sometimes his claws. The best example of that would be License to Kill and Nights of Vengeance. He also uses his tongue every once in a while.
Also, Doc, come on dude. Don't stomp on us Venom fans. Brocks a beast, and we give credit to Ock. I personally love villains who use more brains then brawn sometimes.
actually not many give credit to Ock. I never said I wasn't a venom fan, I just don't like Carnage. It's still sort of a copy of Venom. That is like comparing Hobgoblin to Green Goblin. I mean, they both fly on a glider, throw bombs, and wear weird masks. I see your point but this is just my opinion
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Also, Doc, come on dude. Don't stomp on us Venom fans. Brocks a beast, and we give credit to Ock. I personally love villains who use more brains then brawn sometimes.
I'm not stomping on the Venom fans.I'm stomping on SeeD's lame excuses for disliking Ock.When in actuality his ridiculous logic is just as applicable to Venom,if not more so.
I have nothing against Venom,and he is part of the 'Big three'.
All I did was apply SeeD's silly logic of disliking Ock,to Venom.