Why are the Sith evil? Surely the Jedi are equally evil for keeping the Sith at bay for so long. Maybe the SIth would never have been evil in the first place if the Jedi had not quashed their particular spin on usage of the force?
Surely to have a balance their must be equal measure of 'good' and 'evil'? If there were no evil then their would be no good. Good can only be measured as good if there is an opposite, in this case evil, to compare it to, no?
😂 dude, star wars is an old fashion fantasy. the good guys are good, the bad guys are evil. there is no room for political correctness here.
you are confusing religions with the very topic of good and evil.
the sith consume the galaxy and kill all the jedi. they turn everything to evil.
the jedi only keep the peace. they dont impose 'good', just a lack of war.
without the sith, there is still mob bosses, there is still slavery, and everything else that is evil.
to make it simple:
-without the sith there is still evil
-with the sith there is no good
the sith cannot be allowed to exist if there is to be balance, its that simple
I love that idea PVS, about Luke being left to grow up without a Jedi upbringing ON PURPOSE.
Maybe Ben and Yoda knew that "just another Jedi" would not be a match for Vader.
They realised Vaders power stemmed from Anakins emotion, his love. Therefore, they knew in order to defeat Vader, they needed Vader's equal, someone who was just as gifted but someone who was inherently potentially the same "blank canvas" Anakin was before they screwed up.
They knew Luke needed to be left alone, to grow attached, and in some instances, to suffer, in ways that Jedi are never normally taught. They knew he couldn't lead a shelterred life, he needed to be strong, being a farmer on Tatooine is as hard working as they come.
Ben also knew his mistakes with Anakin. Notice how much more tolerant Obi-Wan is with Luke comparred to Anakin. It's impressive to see Obi-Wan go from intolerant head strong youth into a wise, forgiving master. It's clear that his failure with Anakin leads to his stronger bond with Luke.
Maybe Ben and Yoda knew that Luke would be the key to turn Anakin back to the good side.
They knew Luke would have to become attached, in order to feel compassion for his father.
It's mental, it hurts my head, but it's so cool.
An ancient order of Force-practitioners devoted to the dark side and determined to destroy the Jedi, the Sith were a menace long thought extinct. The current incarnation of the Sith is the result of a rogue Jedi dissident from the order. Two thousand years ago, this Jedi had come to the understanding that the true power of the Force lay not through contemplation and passivity. Only by tapping its dark side could its true potential be gained. The Jedi Council at the time balked at this new direction. The Dark Jedi was outcast, but he eventually gained followers to his new order. Awakening beliefs from the dark past, the new Sith cult continued to grow. With the promise of new powers attainable by tapping into the hateful energies of the dark side, it was only a matter of time before the order self-destructed. Internecine struggle by power-hungry Sith practioners dwindled their numbers.
The Sith can find its roots further back in the galaxy's ancient past. Long before the Republic rose, there lived a culture on the planet Korriban. These primitive people were called the Sith, and the Force flowed strongly through their bloodlines. Although they didn't practice the Force as the Jedi would, they were talented in their own brand of magic.
In the early days of the Jedi, a great schism tore the order apart. Jedi who had tapped the forbidden power of the Force's dark side rebelled against their light-sided brothers. After a terrible war, the Dark Jedi were exiled from the Republic. Past the Republic's growing borders, these castaways discovered Korriban and the Sith people.
Powerful with the dark side, the Jedi outcasts set themselves up as gods on Korriban. The primitive Sith worshipped them as their lords, and so the Jedi grew, and built temples and monuments to celebrate their power. Millennia of interbreeding blurred the distinction between Sith native and offworlder, and the term Sith came to encompass not only the indigenous people of Korriban, but also the powerful overlords that ruled them.
Five thousand years ago, during the Sith Empire's golden age, a Republic explorer vessel stumbled upon the secluded worlds of the Sith. One Sith Lord, Naga Sadow, saw this as an opportunity to invade the Republic, and exact vengeance on the Jedi who had banished them. History would record the invasion that followed as the Great Hyperspace War, and it would be the first of many terrible conflicts between Jedi and Sith.
Time and again the Sith and Jedi would clash, with devastated worlds lying in their wake. The last great conflict took place on the scarred plains of Ruusan. The Sith Lord Kaan and his Brotherhood of Darkness did battle with the Jedi Army of Light.
From this onslaught, one Sith escaped: Darth Bane. It was he who would resurrect the order with duplicity and secrecy in mind. Darth Bane restructured the cult, so that there could only be two -- no more, no less -- a master, and an apprentice. Bane adopted cunning, subterfuge, and stealth as the fundamental tenets of the Sith order. Bane took an apprentice. When that apprentice succeeded him, that new Sith Lord would take an apprentice.
Thus, the Sith quietly continued for centuries, until the time of Darth Sidious and his apprentice, Darth Maul. By that time, the galaxy at large had believed the Sith to be extinct, a fabled threat from the past. Qui-Gon Jinn's report of a Sith attack on Tatooine was met by the Jedi Council with hesitation and skepticism. Surely if the Sith had returned, the Jedi would have detected it, they reasoned.
The dark side, for all its power, is ultimately hard to detect when required. A shadowy master like Darth Sidious was able to keep his presence a secret, even when sharing a world with the Jedi Temple.
With the death of Darth Maul at Naboo, the Jedi Council realized that the Sith menace was true. What they hadn't puzzled was whether Maul was the master, or the apprentice. Years would pass before the Sith menace arose once more, a menace that would eventually come to engulf the entire galaxy.
superfly, I like you're point earlier about the love, a forbidden law of jedi, being what redeemed Anakin. But why did you quote my thing about Anakin being useless to the Empire? That had nothing to do with whether or not Anakin was useless to the Empire, and everything about how he was useful to the Jedi. But that was an ironic point, the thing they forbade (is that even a word?) anakin to take part in, became his salvation from the sith.
What I find really interesting to ask yourself is this: if Anakin had remained good, would the Empire have ever been defeated? I say no because knowing Anakin, he's sign up for some strike team against the Sith, die because he hasn't reached his full potential yet, or die in the purge. His kids would be discovered and killed and more importantly, he wouldn't be around to kill Palpatine. Anakin going bad, in the end, saved the galaxy. And not only that, building on Superfly's idea, his son goes on to form a new and more improved Jedi Order that isn't so puritanical about relationships.
:Vader would not be upset at being number two. Being the second most powerful being in the galaxy is not a booby prize.
:Anakin did (will) not turn to the Dark side for unselfish reasons. His motivations are selfish to everyone except himself!
:The Sith did not think they were wrong. They wanted to Rule everyone for their own good (telling you what is best for you), just like Hitler.
I think using the Dark side is like owning the One Ring. You may start out being just, or even kind, but sooner or later your actions are anything but just. Sooner or later (later if you intentions are good) the Dark side will corrupt you. Then you will spread terror for the sake of terror!
Terror makes Dark sider’s stronger like a drug. The problem is, like a drug, you always need more.
mephisto, you make some good points.....a lot was also made of qui gonn's rebelliousness, and i hope this is brought up to become some kind of thread in the new film....it feels like territory that wasn't completely explored in ep I, hinting at something more to come perhaps....
many people say that part of bringing balance to the force is also about waking the jedi up from their lazy complacency and sloppiness as well....
the emperor saves anakin because he is one of the most powerfull beings in the galaxy, packed to the hilt with midichlorians, already trained by the jedi and warped to sith by him....there are no jedi left to turn, how hard and time consuming would it be to find a worthy new apprentice and train him from the ground up?.....obvious choice, and if it doesn't work he's no worse off for trying....
Maybe when Anakin falls in the lava, Palpatine thinks:
"oh crap, there goes my apprentice, all the others are dead, what an idiot I am. Oh hang on, Obi-Wans pretty bad-ass, hmmmmm...."
*As Obi-Wan is looking down at his fallen apprentice, he feels a tap on the shoulder, and turns around to see Palpatine with a huge grin on his face"
Palpatine: "Hi, I liked how you fight, and was just wonderring if you'd ever consider turni........."
Obi-Wan: "Don't even think about it, b!tch"
Palpatine: *sigh* I guess crispy down there'll have to do for now.
*Palpatine clicks his fingers and two droids appear*
Palpatine: "Get the fishing equipment and my asbestos underpants*
Athankyou.....
Nice pic by the way hehe!
I dunno about you guys but there's something very 'Monty Python and The Holy Grail" about the way the Obi-Wan and Anakin fight will end.
*Obi-Wan cuts off the Anakins leg and both arms*
Anakin: Right, I'll do you for that!
Obi-Wan: You'll what?
Anakin: Come 'ere!
Obi-Wan: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
Anakin: I'm invincible!
Obi-Wan: You're a loony.
Anakin: The Lord Of The Sith always triumphs! Have at you! Come on then.
*Obi-Wan cuts off Anakins other leg. Anakin is left on the floor with no arms, no legs.*
Anakin: All right; we'll call it a draw.
Obi-Wan: Come, R2.
Anakin: Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bast*rd! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!
*And because it's Star Wars, R2D2 pushes Anakin into the lava*
And now I've just had another mental fart.
Lava fishing, part II:
Palpatine: "Can you find him?"
Droid: "Not yet sir"
Palpatine: "He must have sank in, find him quick or I'll be screwed"
Droid: "Wait, I think I have something"
*Droid tugs on the fishing rod, and pulls out a burnt body that is still moving*
Burnt body: "We has'es it, my love. My precious..........."
Droid: "It seems to be Gollum from Lord Of The Rings, he's got better special effects than me, the bast*rd"
*Gollum/Andy looks at Palpatine and the ship behind him*
Gollum: "Ahhhh! Wraiths with wings!" *cue drums - bud-um tsssh*