I have a rather bad feeling about this movie, just like most people in this thread do. Although I really hope it will be a stellar and successful entry in the X-Men franchise- if it is, it will probably spur the making of a Magneto Origins movie, which has so much artistic potential. Mixture of a holocaust film + science-fiction drama = win. Unless they get a hack of adirector to screw it up.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
I have a rather bad feeling about this movie, just like most people in this thread do. Although I really hope it will be a stellar and successful entry in the X-Men franchise- if it is, it will probably spur the making of a Magneto Origins movie, which has so much artistic potential. Mixture of a holocaust film + science-fiction drama = win. Unless they get a hack of adirector to screw it up.
Magneto certainly has the potential for a much more interesting story than this Wolverine film (though Wolverine too has much potential). Sadly, I doubt we'll see this happen now.
Yup. Advance hype often parallels the film's actual reception, so I think we can certainly trust the thus-far negative reaction to the film. Although it could be just whining fanboys, and I don't think the leaked DvD copy was even complete. It'll probably suck, sure, but we can hope.
Btw, did you get to watch Infernal Affairs already?
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Yup. Advance hype often parallels the film's actual reception, so I think we can certainly trust the thus-far negative reaction to the film. Although it could be just whining fanboys, and I don't think the leaked DvD copy was even complete. It'll probably suck, sure, but we can hope.Btw, did you get to watch Infernal Affairs already?
Re: Wolverine... yeah, true... I'm not confident, but... there's always a chance...
And (completely off-topic: I did watch Infernal Affairs. It's better, I think. I didn't even miss Jack Nicholson. It's also faster paced than The Departed (which isn't necessarily positive), and the first half hour or so of the remake is encompassed within maybe 10 minutes of the original. You must check it out!
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Okay. I'll do that.Faster paced than the Departed? Lulwut? Scorsese is friggin' known for his fast pace.
3 years take place in about 10 minutes. Scorsese took at least half an hour to establish Di Caprio and Damon in their roles at the start of The Departed. Don't get me wrong, that worked well, but that's just not where the emphasis is in Infernal Affairs. The different ending is, I think, deeper and more meaningful than Scorsese's too, though I actually love The Departed's conclusion too.
If you want to continue this ludicrously off-topic conversation, I suggest you PM me or make/ find a thread relating to Infernal Affairs/ The Departed... 😉
I don't know man. If they can't get Wolverine right i doubt Magneto would be successful. Although, i think Magneto has potential for a deeper and more obscure story, Wolverine has all of the ingredients for a traditional comic movie. There is also much potential in Wolverines story for a deep movie. I really don't think it matters who or what comic character the movie is about. If there are no chances taken we will only continue to get much of the same.
I can't speak on the Wolverine movie but the problem i have with many comic movies is that the producers and studios play it to safe. Although, i certainly understand why they would. There is A LOT of money involved. Watchmen and TDK took great chances and even though Watchmen didn't do as well as projected they both had incredible success. So, maybe that will help to inspire producers to take more chances with comic movies.
I really don't think Magneto would have any better of a chance at being a great movie than Wolverine.
Why is it exactly, that you believe so?
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I don't know man. If they can't get Wolverine right i doubt Magneto would be successful. Although, i think Magneto has potential for a deeper and more obscure story, Wolverine has all of the ingredients for a traditional comic movie. There is also much potential in Wolverines story for a deep movie. I really don't think it matters who or what comic character the movie is about. If there are no chances taken we will only continue to get much of the same.I can't speak on the Wolverine movie but the problem i have with many comic movies is that the producers and studios play it to safe. Although, i certainly understand why they would. There is A LOT of money involved. Watchmen and TDK took great chances and even though Watchmen didn't do as well as projected they both had incredible success. So, maybe that will help to inspire producers to take more chances with comic movies.
I understand that chances have to be taken with comic book movies- indeed, I advocate the creation of darker and edgier ones (and love the Wolverine character), but this film simply looks bad. Advance hype is poor, the trailers look bad, and, perhaps a bit superstitiously, I fear that the fourth installment in the X-Men franchise (like most fourth installments) will suck.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I really don't think Magneto would have any better of a chance at being a great movie than Wolverine.Why is it exactly, that you believe so?
Because Magneto's story is more multi-layered, psychologically complex, and dramatically riveting. After all, what story has more of these traits than the Holocaust? Plus, all the renditions of Magneto's past so far have been highly compelling and fascinating.
They'll even have a chance to add some sort of philosophy to it. Now that will be taking chances.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
I understand that chances have to be taken with comic book movies- indeed, I advocate the creation of darker and edgier ones (and love the Wolverine character), but this film simply looks bad. Advance hype is poor, the trailers look bad, and, perhaps a bit superstitiously, I fear that the fourth installment in the X-Men franchise (like most fourth installments) will suck.Because Magneto's story is more multi-layered, psychologically complex, and dramatically riveting. After all, what story has more of these traits than the Holocaust? Plus, all the renditions of Magneto's past so far have been highly compelling and fascinating.
They'll even have a chance to add some sort of philosophy to it. Now that will be taking chances.
I agree, partner. I don't think Wolverine looks to promising either. At this point i'm just hoping for a fun ride rather than a great movie.
See, i don't think Magnetos' story is anymore layered and deep than Wolverines story. At least not without the coupling of Charles Xavier and the X-men. I beleive Wolverines past is much more complex and intriguing than Magnetos but i do believe that Magnetos story is better suited for a two hour movie. There is far to much involved in Wolverines story for a two hour movie to properly tell it.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Advance hype often parallels the film's actual reception, so I think we can certainly trust the thus-far negative reaction to the film. Although it could be just whining fanboys, and I don't think the leaked DvD copy was even complete.
I am going wait completely until I see this as a complete film
Originally posted by Mindset
Even taking the movie for what it is it isn't good.Crank was an action movie with a flimsy story, it was still a lot better than this.
Originally posted by Mindset
Maybe you're blinded by your Wolverine love, there was nothing good about the movie.They just threw a bunch of popular mutants into the movie and hoped for the best.
But I guess that's just my opinion.
have you even seen the movie? I have.
Story is quite fine actually. It makes senses, it enjoyabe, all the character have an important role.
also if they were picking popular characters they woudlent uses blob or wraith.
And though I do like Marvel Wolverine I am not that big a fan of fox's.
This movie was better then the spiderman ones from what ive seen of it.
I know your all pissed about the DP thing, shit happens get over it. I dident like it as well. However it made senses with there reality and story. also from what I heard it helps to explain why he crazy if they do a spin off