X-Men Origins: Wolverine

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
not really they were establishing a past for there version of a character?

have you even seen the movie? I have.

Story is quite fine actually. It makes senses, it enjoyabe, all the character have an important role.

also if they were picking popular characters they woudlent uses blob or wraith.

And though I do like Marvel Wolverine I am not that big a fan of fox's.

This movie was better then the spiderman ones from what ive seen of it.

I know your all pissed about the DP thing, shit happens get over it. I dident like it as well. However it made senses with there reality and story. also from what I heard it helps to explain why he crazy if they do a spin off

Yes, I have seen the movie.

All the characters don't have important roles, what were Cyclops and Emma's important roles? The popular characters I'm talking about about Cyclops, Gambit, and Deadpool. Any of these characters could be replaced by someone else, a cardboard printout, and it wouldn't have mattered.

Better than the Spiderman movies? Ok, sure...

The Deadpool thing is a minor problem in this movie, the fact that you think this is a good movie, and better than the Spiderman ones, well, like I said, you love Wolverine.

Originally posted by Kovacs86
Marvel Knights doesn't exist in films... Hell, does it even exist in the comics anymore?

Um, yes it does.

"Punisher: War Zone" (2009). As in the film, was a "Marvel Knights" movie. And it plans on coming out with more films, as well..

"Marvel Knights" films are basically Rated "R" Marvel films aimed and adult audiences due to it's strong graphic content.

Well i have yet to see the movie but please don't bash people who do like the movie, i mean we have our own opinions and all and if you hate then fine.

Where did I bash anyone who liked the movie? 😐

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Um, yes it does.

"Punisher: War Zone" (2009). As in the film, was a "Marvel Knights" movie. And it plans on coming out with more films, as well..

"Marvel Knights" films are basically Rated "R" Marvel films aimed and adult audiences due to it's strong graphic content.

Oh, OK. First I'd heard of that. Interesting...

I'd definitely agree Wolverine would be much more suited to a higher age rating- R/ 18/ whatever...

I'm sorry 😛 didn't read properly.

Its just that people on IMDB really bash people for liking the movie and im afraid the same will happen to me here once i seen it in theatres.

Does Cyke represent in this flick? I hope he's cooler here than in the other X Movies.

Originally posted by Quincy
Does Cyke represent in this flick? I hope he's cooler here than in the other X Movies.

No. No movie or cartoon has ever done him justice.

Don't you think that's slightly unfair to the people who have enjoyed the X-men movies at their rating and then a % of people not able to watch Wolverine because it's at a higher rating than the X-men movies? since it's a spinoff film.

It's like here in the UK, we have a television series called Doctor Who that is suitable for all the family, yet it got its own spinoff series called Torchwood and it was a disappointment to a lot because it wasn't a family series, it contained strong language, violence and sexual scenes that a lot of people here wouldn't want their 6 year old to see. A lot of parents found it difficult to explain to their kids that they couldn't watch Torchwood when it's connected to a family show I believe.

Can do excellent films at a PG-13/12 certificate ratings, see the Dark Knight... rating isn't an excuse in my eyes. 😛

Justice in characterizing him as the misogynist dick he is in the comics?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No. No movie or cartoon has ever done him justice.

Aw Lame!

I thought the FOX cartoon did Cyclops great.

I think Cyke was weak in the movies,but I was always hoping that they were building him up to the characer we see him as in the comic books today.
Too bad we never got to see that.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I agree, partner. I don't think Wolverine looks to promising either. At this point i'm just hoping for a fun ride rather than a great movie.

See, i don't think Magnetos' story is anymore layered and deep than Wolverines story. At least not without the coupling of Charles Xavier and the X-men. I beleive Wolverines past is much more complex and intriguing than Magnetos but i do believe that Magnetos story is better suited for a two hour movie. There is far to much involved in Wolverines story for a two hour movie to properly tell it.

Magneto's story would not be complete without adding his friendship with Xavier and the subsequent riff between their ideologies; it's an integral part of X-Men lore and would serve to explain the further develop their relationship in the primary X-Men series.

Magneto's story is incredibly complex in nature. I'm sure you know some of the philosophical and political allegories within it, things that simply do not exist in Wolverine's tale. That's not to say Wolverine doesn't have a lot of potential- his past is fascinating and would work as both a conspiracy and a revenge flick- but I'm simply more interested in Magneto's origins.

Don't you think that's slightly unfair to the people who have enjoyed the X-men movies at their rating and then a % of people not able to watch Wolverine because it's at a higher rating than the X-men movies? since it's a spinoff film.

Originally posted by MildPossession
It's like here in the UK, we have a television series called Doctor Who that is suitable for all the family, yet it got its own spinoff series called Torchwood and it was a disappointment to a lot because it wasn't a family series, it contained strong language, violence and sexual scenes that a lot of people here wouldn't want their 6 year old to see. A lot of parents found it difficult to explain to their kids that they couldn't watch Torchwood when it's connected to a family show I believe.

Can do excellent films at a PG-13/12 certificate ratings, see the Dark Knight... rating isn't an excuse in my eyes. stick out tongue

A film can definitely be good as a PG-13, but an intentionally violent and somber film will, many times, become more tame and subdued when it is edited down to a lower rating. Take TDK- it was a superb film, but its meditation upon violence could have arguably been superior if the consequences of the violence were realistically depicted. Wolverine must focus upon melee combat, involving sharp weaponry. How can a film like that not have R-rating violence?

Maybe I'm just being a violence-hungry horror addict, though, as there are some great action movies that have been rated PG-13 and worked perfectly well, like the Bourne franchise. Oh hell.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Justice in characterizing him as the misogynist dick he is in the comics?

That is recent Cyclops not the Cyclops he was when the cartoon and movies came out.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
I thought the FOX cartoon did Cyclops great.

I think Cyke was weak in the movies,but I was always hoping that they were building him up to the characer we see him as in the comic books today.
Too bad we never got to see that.

Fox did the best, but still they gave Wolverine all of the glory.

actually that's been Cyclops since the age of 15 if you read the comics. Take a look at how he treated Lee Forrester or Madelyne Prior.

I am so glad this is an alternate reality wolverine, becuases if it was 616 wolverine they butcher him

Originally posted by Darth Jello
actually that's been Cyclops since the age of 15 if you read the comics. Take a look at how he treated Lee Forrester or Madelyne Prior.

Not really especially when you find out what Claremont's intentions for him and Maddie were in the first place. You've however only named two people that you feel he was a dick too. Even when he left her he didn't call her out of her name or disrespect her IIRC.

Originally posted by MildPossession
Don't you think that's slightly unfair to the people who have enjoyed the X-men movies at their rating and then a % of people not able to watch Wolverine because it's at a higher rating than the X-men movies? since it's a spinoff film.

It's like here in the UK, we have a television series called Doctor Who that is suitable for all the family, yet it got its own spinoff series called Torchwood and it was a disappointment to a lot because it wasn't a family series, it contained strong language, violence and sexual scenes that a lot of people here wouldn't want their 6 year old to see. A lot of parents found it difficult to explain to their kids that they couldn't watch Torchwood when it's connected to a family show I believe.

Can do excellent films at a PG-13/12 certificate ratings, see the Dark Knight... rating isn't an excuse in my eyes. 😛

Well, I'm pretty sure what disappointed Dr Who fans most about Torchwood was that it's complete bollocks...

Probably, doesn't take away what I was talking about.

Maybe I'm just being a violence-hungry horror addict, though, as there are some great action movies that have been rated PG-13 and worked perfectly well, like the Bourne franchise. Oh hell.

Yes, you are being a violence hungry addict. 😛

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Not really especially when you find out what Claremont's intentions for him and Maddie were in the first place. You've however only named two people that you feel he was a dick too. Even when he left her he didn't call her out of her name or disrespect her IIRC.

Cyclopes allways had a chip on his shoulder. just look at his interactions with wolverine.

however you are correct it only been recently that he been more dark and so on. But most people say that how he should be written.