it's not that simple... remember when pure Evil Buu absorbed Fat Buu? if what you where saying is true, then Super Buu should have reverted to that form when they yanked out all the people pods, but instead he mutates and changes back into Bibidi's original creation, and remember what Supreme Kai said, Kid Buu actually got cosiderably weakened when he absorbed the other Supreme Kai spirits...
When Fat Buu got yanked, the limiter was taken with him, thus Kid Buu had access to his total power, which is stronger than Super Buu's fully amped power because he has no limiter anymore, and thats not to say that it just unleashed his full evil nature (Hell we saw that with the pure evil Buu), but also that strange dark power that the other Buu's had limited access to, that same power that supposedly can break down dimensions.
Originally posted by chickenlover98
exactly. btw kronick i believe that if super buu can scream and have all the kai's believe it can make every dimension crash into each other then i believe that he can escape the phantom zone. im talkin about goku doin that btw
The time chamber had a direct link to the real world, even though the link is severed, it is still close to the real world, it was meant for training. The phantom zone is an isolated prison dimension that has no connection to any other episode. So no way in hell any dbz character is escaping the phantom zone. Regular Sues has punched through dimesions, but that doesn't mean he can punch through the PZ, The only one could do that is a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian, who is leagues above anything DBZ, but that is a different thread.
Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Dude, Goku was not stronger. Goku even lost power by coming back to life which means that he had to gain that strength back first & he can only become so strong while being alive anyway. Gohan is twice as strong as Goku will ever be, Gohan doesn't even need to train, his power never decreases.
When does it ever say Gokou got weaker? He couldn't hold his power but he didn't get weaker. And Gohan got weaker after the Cell saga cause he didn't train so there goes that theory his power never decreases. And now he doesn't have his hidden power to help him out to get stronger. Also Mystic Gohan wouldn't be that much more powerful that Gokou couldn't get there in 10 years if not surpass it since he was training all 10 years.
On a different note.
As for Kid Buu. He's hard to place because Vegeta doesn't realize how powerful Kid Buu is until he fights him and he's sitting there watching the fight and both Vegeta and Gokou thought they could take Kid Buu while still just SSJ and didn't even go beyond it until Kid Buu came to Kaioshin Planet. And when Kid Buu was fighting there he wasn't even serious. He went to sleep when Gokou became SSJ3 and didn't even begin to create a blast as strong as he did before that Gokou and Vegeta were scared off. I don't believe Gokou could have done anything to Kid Buu even if he did get full power. He was easily taking anything Gokou could dish out anyways. And Gokou could prove he can go ssj3 in an instant so he could have went ssj3 to stop the blast that destroyed Earth if he had the power to. The only people I think stronger than Kid Buu would be Mystic Gohan and above which is like a fusion and 2 other forms of Super Buu.
Originally posted by chickenlover98
actually i meant when super buu starts screaming. this is after the HBTC. when vegito fought him. thats what i was talkin about
Dude, I've beaten you at least five times with this debate. Goku is stronger when dead than when alive, he says so himself. And with the mystic power up, Gohan's power does not decrease, Elder Kai indirectly states it in some way or another. Btw, Goku can't even get that much stronger due to him being alive.
Originally posted by Mirai GohanHis strength did not decrease, but he has little or no strain put on his body while SSJ3 dead than when alive. Gohan's power doesn't decrease? I would like you to prove that. Also, why can Goku not get much stronger cause h's alive? Compare the start of DBZ to the end and then tell me that.
Dude, I've beaten you at least five times with this debate. Goku is stronger when dead than when alive, he says so himself. And with the mystic power up, Gohan's power does not decrease, Elder Kai indirectly states it in some way or another. Btw, Goku can't even get that much stronger due to him being alive.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
His strength did not decrease, but he has little or no strain put on his body while SSJ3 dead than when alive. Gohan's power doesn't decrease? I would like you to prove that. Also, why can Goku not get much stronger cause h's alive? Compare the start of DBZ to the end and then tell me that.
Agreed
Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Dude, I've beaten you at least five times with this debate. Goku is stronger when dead than when alive, he says so himself. And with the mystic power up, Gohan's power does not decrease, Elder Kai indirectly states it in some way or another. Btw, Goku can't even get that much stronger due to him being alive.
The only difference bitween being alive and dead for Goku is limitless reserves, thats all. When did he say he was Stonger?
Gohan's power is just as suceptible to running out as it always was, he still feels tired, hungry and can be injured.
And Goku, just like anyone else, can continue to become stronger as long as he keeps training... this is an undeniable fact, especially in the DB Universe.