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Kento The last Hokage

Gokou states Buu was toying with him. So yea...He'd really be able to win at full power. How many people in DBZ have said they could win but weren't able. Vegeta against Freeza, Cell against Gohan, Buu against Vegetto....What they think and what is real are two different things. Buu's over there mocking them so yea he's really trying his hardest to kill Gokou. Then Vegeta letting Cell become Perfect, Recoome against Gokou, Burta and Jeice against Gokou. Because it's said doesn't make it true when one is not even trying. If Buu was serious then maybe I'd believe it but he isn't being serious at all.

Phenomenol Restricted

[QUOTE=9581345]Originally posted by Kento
Gokou states Buu was toying with him. So yea...He'd really be able to win at full power. [QUOTE]

[B]STOP......'

Goku was talking about how Buu was toying with him because he could have attacked while he was talking with Vegeta. 🙄

Read the scan.

Kento The last Hokage

Like I said Kid Buu wasn't even trying. He's mocking Gokou yet you think he's actually going all out? Kid Buu could have killed Gokou and Vegeta easily along with Mr. Satan, and Fat Buu yet he doesn't. He'd been toying with Gokou since the beginning of the fight.

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Originally posted by Kento
Like I said Kid Buu wasn't even trying. He's mocking Gokou yet you think he's actually going all out? Kid Buu could have killed Gokou and Vegeta easily along with Mr. Satan, and Fat Buu yet he doesn't. He'd been toying with Gokou since the beginning of the fight.

Wrong, Kid Buu and Goku's fight was going back and forth, read the actual fight! Goku could have finished Buu off but ran out of energy, that is can0n, not your interpretation.

Kento The last Hokage

I have the manga. I've read it plenty of times. Kid Buu is toying with Gokou. He mocks Gokou at the beginning also.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Kid Buu was toying with Goku. Going by Phenom's logic, if I say I can beat Galactus, I really could.

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Originally posted by Kento
I have the manga. I've read it plenty of times. Kid Buu is toying with Gokou. He mocks Gokou at the beginning also.

Wrong, Show me where that is stated during their fight? Otherwise your THEORY is fanfiction.

Canon > Your opinion.

Kid Buu was toying with Goku. Going by Phenom's logic, if I say I can beat Galactus, I really could.

THE CANON DISAGREES WITH YOU! try again.

Kento The last Hokage

The fact that Kid Buu isn't even being serious. The fact that Gokou was scared of the blast Kid Buu created to destroy Earth saying they couldn't stop it. The fact that Kid Buu wasn't loosing any energy. The fact that plenty of people always say they can win yet aren't strong enough really. The fact that Vegeta and Gokou state they can take Kid Buu because they assumed he was weak when they were both just SSJ and then he destroys Earth with a blast they can't stop. Just because somebody says something doesn't make it true. Vegeta would be the first super saiyan if that was fact. He'd be the strongest also. Vegetto wouldn't have been able to toy with Gohan absorbed Super Buu because Super Buu would have been unstoppable. Cell wouldn't have lost to a Gohan who wasn't even at max power. Cell would be stronger than Fat Buu. The solar system would be destroyed.

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Originally posted by Kento
The fact that Kid Buu isn't even being serious.

STOP....

That is not in the fight between Goku and Buu.

You need to stop contradicting the fight between them. You base your entire argument on opinion, leave your comments in the realm of fanfiction, thank you.

HolyHand Junior Member

I was confused reading that scan. Who says the part "He just prolonged it to toy with us," and who is "he" referring to? Who prolonged it? That should clarify a few things. Otherwise, the way I'm reading it, Kid Buu was indeed toying with them, THEY just didn't realize it until then.

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Sigh, Goku is talking about Buu, who should be attacking them RIGHT NOW while he and Vegeta are discussing their situation. but buu didn't, Buu prologned Goku's situation just so that he could toy with them because he is losing strength and Buu wants to fight more with him. Vegeta was up next for a beat down.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Phenomenol
STOP....

That is not in the fight between Goku and Buu.

You need to stop contradicting the fight between them. You base your entire argument on opinion, leave your comments in the realm of fanfiction, thank you. [/B]

So if somebody is mocking you there being serious when they could just create a huge ball that could kill you? When somebody sits there taunting you while you're talking while you were fighting you're hardest he's being serious? Kid Buu wasn't even being serious when he blew up Earth. It's fun to him. That is why he doesn't kill Gokou when he easily could. I'm not contradicting the fight between them. Gokou is trying to kill Buu where Buu isn't trying to kill Gokou. It's pretty obvious Buu isn't trying to kill him when he sits there and taunts him while he talks to Vegeta instead of cheap-shotting him. It's not like Kid Buu has any morals since he is pure evil. He doesn't have any pride either. It's all purely for his entertainment.

Violent2Dope Restricted

I have sumthin to say about one of the most most controversial parts of DBZ, Cell's final Kamehameha. People say "If he could blow up a planet, the explosion would be bigger", but that is false. Cell never said he was going to bust the solar system, he said he had gathered enough energy in his Kamehameha to do so. That means he may of gathered the power to do it, but he focused it into the kamehameha to kill Gohan, which makes the beams power smaller, but more intense. That's just a thought, and probably the most logical explanation you will get.

Kento The last Hokage

Maybe, but if two blasts that could destroy the solar system collided shouldn't a whole lot more have happened like at least destroying parts of Earth or at least the immediate area?

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Kento
Maybe, but if two blasts that could destroy the solar system collided shouldn't a whole lot more have happened like at least destroying parts of Earth or at least the immediate area?
That's the thing, the kamehamehas are highly compacted and focused beams of energy, even when hitting something they don't cause a large explosion, but it still was enough to kill Cell, who has much more durability than DB Goku, who survived a blast similar in size and power to a nuke. Size is not everything.

Kento The last Hokage

Well has the Kamehameha ever caused an explosion? I don't remember the Kamehameha ever exploding anyways. So since it doesn't explode just disperses the solar system is safe? Plus how does Cell or Gohan for that matter actually know how much energy needs to be generated to destroy a solar system since obviously nobody has done it so it's not something they can know.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Kento
Well has the Kamehameha ever caused an explosion? I don't remember the Kamehameha ever exploding anyways. So since it doesn't explode just disperses the solar system is safe? Plus how does Cell or Gohan for that matter actually know how much energy needs to be generated to destroy a solar system since obviously nobody has done it so it's not something they can know.
It does not cause large explosions, it can only destroy a planet if fired from the right angle, similar to Final Flash. Goku looked at Kid Buu's giant death ball and said it would destroy the planet, they can sense ki, and have at least a basic idea of the size of a solar system. This is all speculation of course, he may of simply been lying. One thing I do know tho, is Cell being defeated despite saying he was invincible is not lying, he was strong enough to beat all opponents he faced easily and thought he was the strongest in the universe, he was just wrong, he didn't lie.

Kento The last Hokage

It was still arrogant though since he hadn't faced everybody yet. Plus wasn't Trunks stronger just slower and he still said he was the strongest in the universe?

chickenlover98 Loving Chickens

well i dunno bout the trunks part. i dont think cell could destroy the galaxy or w/e, but i do know that the beams are highly compacted. they should cause more aoe damage to the area but they dont. we do know they can destroy the planet a la cell saying when coku is charging that it will destroy the planet.

Kento The last Hokage

The thing about planet destroying blasts though is that all the blast needs to do is start a chain reaction like Freeza did they don't need to be able to destroy the planet in a blast. And Gokou pointing a Kamehameha straight down at full power would be able to do that.