Originally posted by Mirai GohanHis scan clearly says that it was 2 tons each. He says that 10 tons thing doesn't even exist in the real manga translation. Why do you flame everyone that disagrees with you on DBZ? Is it cause you are unwilling to accept that DBZ characters are stronger than you thot?
You're honestly acting like a retard. You won't even post the scan where he says 10 tons is too heavy yet you continue to post the same pictures over & over that proves nothing.
Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
He's not even that fast, he's actually pretty slow. In fact, nearly all DBZ characters are slow compared to people like Superman. It took Piccolo nearly three issues for Piccolo to reach the battlefield where Gohan, Krillen, Vegeta, & Freeza were fighting.
How many issues did it take Goku to defeat Freeza? The fight was 5mins long
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
His scan clearly says that it was 2 tons each. He says that 10 tons thing doesn't even exist in the real manga translation. Why do you flame everyone that disagrees with you on DBZ? Is it cause you are unwilling to accept that DBZ characters are stronger than you thot?
Yes, he says that but in every translation out there 10 tons exists, he didn't create the manga. And he's dead wrong, there's no way he could lift 8 tons & then think lifting 10 tons is impossible. Seriously, the DBZ characters are not stronger than I thought, they are as strong as the manga dictates & in the manga Goku struggled with 40 tons in his base form & needed to turn SSJ to be able to sustain the weights.
Originally posted by Mirai GohanIt would have been 10 tons on each limb that he said was impossible, and in SSJ mode handled 40 on each.
Yes, he says that but in every translation out there 10 tons exists, he didn't create the manga. And he's dead wrong, there's no way he could lift 8 tons & then think lifting 10 tons is impossible. Seriously, the DBZ characters are not stronger than I thought, they are as strong as the manga dictates & in the manga Goku struggled with 40 tons in his base form & needed to turn SSJ to be able to sustain the weights.
Originally posted by VvendetaStreet level people in comics can dodge bullets though and they aren't close to the speed of sound so that's not impressive. Catching bullets is impressive but that doesn't mean they are up in light speed even by the end of Z. They have no feats to put them there. Gotenks at ssj going around the Earth two dozen times isn't going to do it since it could have took him 20 minutes to do that or even less but it's not known.
Because Goku as Roshi have a speed enough to dodge and catch Bullets and well, if Goku before the second tournament has this speed, is just logical to calculate that after train in 100 g he might reach light speed, before become Supersaiyan.Is bullets faster than the speed of sound?
this is against red Ribbon Army, before his Training with Karin in the Karin Tower, when he triplicate strengh and speed.
Originally posted by KentoI never said they could go lightspeed. What rank(Street leveler, Metahuman, ect.) would you all put Goku?
Street level people in comics can dodge bullets though and they aren't close to the speed of sound so that's not impressive. Catching bullets is impressive but that doesn't mean they are up in light speed even by the end of Z. They have no feats to put them there. Gotenks at ssj going around the Earth two dozen times isn't going to do it since it could have took him 20 minutes to do that or even less but it's not known.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
It would have been 10 tons on each limb that he said was impossible, and in SSJ mode handled 40 on each.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Goku only had 40 tons total, that guy has no idea what he's talking about. Goku only had 2 tons total before he went SSJ & only had 40 lb weights after going SSJ. Nothing more, nothing less. I hate when people try to make the DBZ character's stronger than they truly are.
Originally posted by chickenlover98It was two tons at first then forty. Ten was what he was going to go first.
if i remember correct(correct me if im wrong) he had 10 on before king kai put 40 on him(thats total weight) then he went ss and moved extremely easily with em
Originally posted by Mirai GohanIt wasn't 2 tons total. It was 2 tons on each arm and he turned the weights into forty tons. He was going to put on ten but he says he'll do forty tons instead. Which would means he probably be between 80 to 100 tons at ssj.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Goku only had 40 tons total, that guy has no idea what he's talking about. Goku only had 2 tons total before he went SSJ & only had 40 lb weights after going SSJ. Nothing more, nothing less. I hate when people try to make the DBZ character's stronger than they truly are.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeI didn't quote you though. And rank...Well he's way above street level..With what people are said to be at High Meta I'd say Gokou is about that level maybe low Herald at ssj3.
I never said they could go lightspeed. What rank(Street leveler, Metahuman, ect.) would you all put Goku?
Originally posted by Kento
He says that's way to much so if he thinks 10 tons is to much then he can't do it. It's not until King Kai says he can go ssj that he says no problem.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=9534119SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Gokou also. Supposedly anyway. There's really not much to back that up except for Gokou saying he was. And still speed isn't defined, and nobody knows how fast he's going because nobody knows how long it took him to get around the Earth. Not to mention Gotenks is know to brag about himself and it not be true so while he may have went around the Earth plenty of times he'd probably give a lot bigger number than what he did. Not saying he did it's just in his personality to do so.
Here, my friend, i took a picture with my camera, because i don´t have scaner, but that is the printed of the Junenp manga in all Europe with the translation in English from the Oiginal Japanese.
King Kai : How About 10 tons,
Goku: 10 Tons? Don´t you think that is a litlle to much? i wont be able to move.
King Kai: Ill let you Go Supersaiyan
Goku: Oh in that case, fine.
Whoever put the words "is Imposible", was not fan of Goku.
Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
You're honestly acting like a retard. You won't even post the scan where he says 10 tons is too heavy yet you continue to post the same pictures over & over that proves nothing.
Again do click the picture and you will read that Goku never use the words imposible, and i don´t have the power to do a manga and put my own translation, is the original.
Originally posted by Kento
Street level people in comics can dodge bullets though and they aren't close to the speed of sound so that's not impressive. Catching bullets is impressive but that doesn't mean they are up in light speed even by the end of Z. They have no feats to put them there. Gotenks at ssj going around the Earth two dozen times isn't going to do it since it could have took him 20 minutes to do that or even less but it's not known.
You see Roshi catching Bullets from a machine Gun, still you seen resiliance to accept that they could have light speed in Freeza Saga if only you calculate this speed in the beggining of DB Goku has same as Roshi and then calculate his training in 100 G, without counting the rest of the DB history when Goku increase a lot speed and strenght to Fight Piccolo.
And again, i don´t now why i still feel that i am in a vs thread.
Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Goku only had 40 tons total, that guy has no idea what he's talking about. Goku only had 2 tons total before he went SSJ & only had 40 lb weights after going SSJ. Nothing more, nothing less. I hate when people try to make the DBZ character's stronger than they truly are.
GOKU HAS 2 TONS EACH LIMB IN HIS NORMAL STAGE. = 8 TONS
AND 10 TONS EACH LIMB = 40 TONS
I HATE STUBORN PEOPLE WITH CLOSE MINDS.
Originally posted by Kento
It was two tons at first then forty. Ten was what he was going to go first.It wasn't 2 tons total. It was 2 tons on each arm and he turned the weights into forty tons. He was going to put on ten but he says he'll do forty tons instead. Which would means he probably be between 80 to 100 tons at ssj.
I didn't quote you though. And rank...Well he's way above street level..With what people are said to be at High Meta I'd say Gokou is about that level maybe low Herald at ssj3.
What speed you need to react when somebody shot you with a Machine gun behind your back and you catch them all without effort
this is Red Ribbon Army, beggining of DB when Roshi and Goku where equal.
Then is Karin Training.
3 years self Training.
Second Tournament.
Piccolo Daimao Battle
Goku Drinking the Sacred Water and weaking up his doormant power to defeat Piccolo Daimao.
Training with Kami.
Raditz coming.
Training With King Kai in 10 g.
Battle With Vegeta.
Training in 100 g.
battle agains Ginyu force.
Injure, recover, 10 kaioken 20 kaioken, Supersaiyan.
And you still think he just have less than light speed. in fighting.
