The Official DragonBall Z thread

Started by Vvendeta216 pages

It seen that in this forum even presenting proves is not enough, and my opinion is not taking in consideration by being call a person who exaggerate just because I disagree with some.
So better I ask question that some expert can respond.


Can you tell me how much weight a rock of this size can be?

Is Goku glowing in energy here?
If the answer is no, that this mean he is not powering up?

If his maximum strength in normal is 8 tons ? (IMO is not)
If he do Kaioken 10 times kaioken and 20 times kaioken (Battle with freeza)
how much weight he can handle?
Is 80 tons and 160 tons correct?
Is supersaiyan a higher and better powering up transformation?

Is Goku SSJ 3 slower than Gotenks SSJ 1?


(original manga translation, Gotenks state Few dozen times around and took a Nap)

Speed to very less powerfull characters

Speed to create images by vibrating and move in many places to confuse the enemy.

Are characters in DB slow?
Is Goku supose to be faster than them?

Speed to travel to others systems.

Is instant transmision better than speed?
Is instant Transmision more useful in battle than speed in a battle?

Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Just imagine if Kal-El from the season four premiere fought a DBZ character without restraint. The bout wouldn't last two minutes.

I agree

😄

Originally posted by superkronick92
I agree, when Smallville Clark is in superspeed time is frozen

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y4xFtgSsfBk

But that is a different thread

I am 100% sure if i post something from DB in the Superman thread i will be ban.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Is Goku glowing in energy here?
If the answer is no, that this mean he is not powering up?

If his maximum strength in normal is 8 tons ? (IMO is not)
If he do Kaioken 10 times kaioken and 20 times kaioken (Battle with freeza)
how much weight he can handle?
Is 80 tons and 160 tons correct?
Is supersaiyan a higher and better powering up transformation?


Gokou states 10 tons is to heavy. He and King Kai know he can do kaioken. Gokou isn't close to being past 10 tons without going ssj.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Speed to very less powerfull characters

Speed to create images by vibrating and move in many places to confuse the enemy.

Are characters in DB slow?
Is Goku supose to be faster than them?

Speed to travel to others systems.

Is instant transmision better than speed?
Is instant Transmision more useful in battle than speed in a battle?

Moving faster than they eye can track isn't anywhere near light speed, and IT isn't fighting speed. IT is instant and isn't useful at all against a opponent who is faster than you.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Is Goku SSJ 3 slower than Gotenks SSJ 1?


(original manga translation, Gotenks state Few dozen times around and took a Nap)

Yea, and it all happened within thirty minutes. It could have took him twenty minutes to circle the earth 24 times and then 9 minutes to nap before going to Buu's house and unfusing. So that's pretty much pointless there.

Can you show me where did Goku say 10 tons is too heavy?

Because in the manga i have he just say that he won´t be able to move. the meaning is diferent

So if Gotenk SSJ 1 go around the world few dozen times (unknown times)
Gotenks SSJ3 will do it faster?

What about Goku SSJ 3?

He says that's way to much so if he thinks 10 tons is to much then he can't do it. It's not until King Kai says he can go ssj that he says no problem.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=9534119

SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Gokou also. Supposedly anyway. There's really not much to back that up except for Gokou saying he was. And still speed isn't defined, and nobody knows how fast he's going because nobody knows how long it took him to get around the Earth. Not to mention Gotenks is know to brag about himself and it not be true so while he may have went around the Earth plenty of times he'd probably give a lot bigger number than what he did. Not saying he did it's just in his personality to do so.

I believe for some reason Many here Put Goku speed barely over sound speed, i don´t understand why because master Roshi is in that category, the prove is here:

So you can´t denie that but the end of the Manga Goku is not in the category you put him.

Or you think Goku is a s fast as Roshi? 😕

Yet they still can't fly places very fast.

Originally posted by Kento
He says that's way to much so if he thinks 10 tons is to much then he can't do it. It's not until King Kai says he can go ssj that he says no problem.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=9534119

SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Gokou also. Supposedly anyway. There's really not much to back that up except for Gokou saying he was. And still speed isn't defined, and nobody knows how fast he's going because nobody knows how long it took him to get around the Earth. Not to mention Gotenks is know to brag about himself and it not be true so while he may have went around the Earth plenty of times he'd probably give a lot bigger number than what he did. Not saying he did it's just in his personality to do so.

My friend, that is just a tranlation made by a fan, i will post to you a picture of the manga with the right translation

Originally posted by Kento
Yet they still can't fly places very fast.

Yes, that much is true, is like Toriyama made then fast to fight, all the characters since Roshi, but he likes the hero to takes his time in arrive to the rescue, is just to create suspense I believe, but is just a case of interpretate speed, but personally Goku pass light speed in fighting in his fight with Freeza, and Goku didn´t need to fly after he learn isntant transmision to have a feat and be sure if he can Fly at light speed, but
we can Take in consideration that Gotenks SSj 1 fusion flying, then Gotenks when into the Room of spirit of time and grew a lot, and then he reach SSJ3 fusion, and thinking that Maybe Goku will fly at close to SSJ3 Gotenks, of course, this is just a theory.

Because Goku as Roshi have a speed enough to dodge and catch Bullets and well, if Goku before the second tournament has this speed, is just logical to calculate that after train in 100 g he might reach light speed, before become Supersaiyan.

Is bullets faster than the speed of sound?

this is against red Ribbon Army, before his Training with Karin in the Karin Tower, when he triplicate strengh and speed.





Goku Defeating Butter.

Originally posted by Kento
IT is way above Light Speed..But that isn't movement speed so it really doesn't matter. And of course they are below light speed. Also Piccolo didn't exactly revive close to the battle. I don't think they move at speed of sound by the end of the series but I think they could probably come close to it. We could get at least a lowest speed if we knew how fast their cars were since Present Trunks finds driving his flying car to slow.
Raditz could casually catch bullets, which are faster than sound. Yes they can.

Superman has been doing that shit for years, it's nothing new.

Originally posted by Vvendeta
Can you show me where did Goku say 10 tons is too heavy?

Because in the manga i have he just say that he won´t be able to move. the meaning is diferent

You're honestly acting like a retard. You won't even post the scan where he says 10 tons is too heavy yet you continue to post the same pictures over & over that proves nothing.

Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
Superman has been doing that shit for years, it's nothing new.

Although I agree with you, lets not turn this into another VS. thread