The Official DragonBall Z thread

Started by juggerman216 pages
Originally posted by NemeBro
What leads you to believe that Vegito can destroy a galaxy?

Super Buu could rip thru dimensions while throw tantrums. Vegito>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Super Buu so i dunno that galaxy busting would be totally out of the question

Originally posted by juggerman
Super Buu could rip thru dimensions while throw tantrums. Vegito>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Super Buu so i dunno that galaxy busting would be totally out of the question
He can open a tiny hole through dimensions by screaming.

Nightcrawler can casually port between dimensions.

Clearly, he is capable of galaxy busting. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
He can open a tiny hole through dimensions by screaming.

Nightcrawler can casually port between dimensions.

Clearly, he is capable of galaxy busting. 👆

Teleporting between dimensions and tearing open dimensions are now the same thing? Wow you really proved me wrong there 😱

EDIT: And Super Duper Buu was able to do alot more and was still an ant compared to Vegito. I'm not saying Vegito is a galaxy buster i'm just saying it may not be outta his range as you seem to believe

Originally posted by NemeBro
He can open a tiny hole through dimensions by screaming.

Nightcrawler can casually port between dimensions.

Clearly, he is capable of galaxy busting. 👆

WTF.

Anyone see the dragon ball z saiyan saga movie trailer, now the special effects for fight scenes have gotten a lot better but I think the choice in actors and the acting itself hasn't got any better, in fact it might be even worse. So what do you guys think?

Originally posted by NemeBro
What leads you to believe that Vegito can destroy a galaxy?
Our solar system is roughly 0.005 light years across. The milky way galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years across(these figures were found via a quick google search.) So assuming said figures are accurate, this means the galaxy is about 2,000,000,000% larger than the solar system.

Post-resurrection Cell, whose PL was on par with SSJ2 Gohan, stated that he possessed enough power to destroy the solar system:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14651909/350704.gif.html
So theoretically, a being would have to be about 2 billion percent more powerful than Jesus-Cell to even have a shot at destroying the milky way galaxy. Using the PL guide I've posted before, SSJ2 Gohan's PL(and Jesus Cell's PL by proxy) were in the 5 billion range.

Now, at the time of the Buu Saga, both Goku and Vegeta were capable of transforming into SSJ2. Even if we merely assume they were each as powerful as Gohan was during the Cell Games, then that gives them each a PL of 5 billion. The Daizenshuu states that a Potara fusion is like multiplying PLs together, rather than simply adding them--- which means Vegito's total PL was the same as multiplying Goku and Vegeta's PLs together:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14651908/SaiyanFusion_PLs.jpg.html
Having said that, 5,000,000,000*5,000,000,000=25,000,000,000,000,000,000(25 quintillion.) This means Vegito's PL should have technically been about 499,999,999,900% greater than Cell's--- and it only needs to be 2 billion % greater than Cell's to have a shot at busting the galaxy.

Heck, lets even low-ball Goku and Vegeta tremendously, and assume their PL's were only 2 billion. 2,000,000,000*2,000,000,000=4,000,000,000,000,000,000(4 quintillion.) This means Vegito's PL would have still been about 79,999,999,900% greater than Cell's--- and it only needs to be 2 billion % greater than Cell's to have a shot at busting the galaxy.

Food for thought.

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Aside from that riff raff, I think Vegito could bust a galaxy cuz he's just that damn cool. 😛

Originally posted by Q99
Yes he can. If no-one can stop someone, that person can go around across the entire universe using as much planetary destruction as they want. Especially if they have a whole organization and army behind them conquering less defended planets in their wake.

The DBZ universe only has a mere 4 galaxies after all. An empire conquering the whole thing isn't too crazy.

That would only make him planetary, not universal.

Originally posted by carver9
That would only make him planetary, not universal.
Cell's solar system power blast wouldn't be a big boast if Freeza could do it.

Originally posted by carver9
That would only make him planetary, not universal.
Not Really he'd be a universal threat in the since that if they failed no one in the universe could stop him. He had the means to travel everywhere and the intention to conquer or destroy it. Regardless of if he could destroy a universe or not his intentions and greater overall might made him a threat to all of it.

Originally posted by carver9
That would only make him planetary, not universal.

A planetary threat is one that threatens a planet. He already controlled a nice chunk of the galaxy.

Threatening every planet in the universe is quite possible with just his power level.

It depends on how it was worded imo. Goku meaning made it seem more concrete. Goku said Frieza would destroy the Universe and said this more than once. The key word in his statement is "destroy" which is something entirely different than blowing something up planet by planet.

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how it was worded imo. Goku meaning made it seem more concrete. Goku said Frieza would destroy the Universe and said this more than once. The key word in his statement is "destroy" which is something entirely different than blowing something up planet by planet.
Well We know Freiza wouldn't do that, he'd have no where to live. He's a conqueror he'd destroy many planets but he'd also take things and people as slaves. Goku thought him a monster and his eyes Frieza would just blow everything in existence up but that's more Majin Buu style of evil than Frieza. Freiza would destroy in it by destroying their way of life anything not dead would be his slave, and he'd go planet by planet to do it just as he was shown to in the show. He wasn't wiping out Galaxies he was sending his armies to conquer and taking what he wanted.

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how it was worded imo. Goku meaning made it seem more concrete. Goku said Frieza would destroy the Universe and said this more than once. The key word in his statement is "destroy" which is something entirely different than blowing something up planet by planet.

King Kai seemed to talk more as if he'd go around blowing stuff up.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Well We know Freiza wouldn't do that, he'd have no where to live. He's a conqueror he'd destroy many planets but he'd also take things and people as slaves. Goku thought him a monster and his eyes Frieza would just blow everything in existence up but that's more Majin Buu style of evil than Frieza. Freiza would destroy in it by destroying their way of life anything not dead would be his slave, and he'd go planet by planet to do it just as he was shown to in the show. He wasn't wiping out Galaxies he was sending his armies to conquer and taking what he wanted.
👆

Originally posted by Kento
It's Gokou, Of course its going to be Kamehameha. There will be like five other people doing Kamehameha also. And three people doing something different.

Unless Goku just does the super dragon fist as a finisher again.

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
At least their enemies are new and fresh. Never thought I'd see "Mewtwo" in Dragon Ball Z. 😂

Final form Frieza before he went 100% kinda gave me a Mewtwo vibe with their color schemes and somewhat similar body shape and the way Frieza would use TK when toying around with Goku. This Bill guy though.. yeah. Looking forward to it.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
broly is not canon.

Originally posted by juggerman
Neither is your [b]FACE!!!!! [/B]

umad?

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Anyone see the dragon ball z saiyan saga movie trailer, now the special effects for fight scenes have gotten a lot better but I think the choice in actors and the acting itself hasn't got any better, in fact it might be even worse. So what do you guys think?

Link?

Originally posted by Galan007
Our solar system is roughly 0.005 light years across. The milky way galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years across(these figures were found via a quick google search.) So assuming said figures are accurate, this means the galaxy is about 2,000,000,000% larger than the solar system.

Post-resurrection Cell, whose PL was on par with SSJ2 Gohan, stated that he possessed enough power to destroy the solar system:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14651909/350704.gif.html
So theoretically, a being would have to be about 2 billion percent more powerful than Jesus-Cell to even have a shot at destroying the milky way galaxy. Using the PL guide I've posted before, SSJ2 Gohan's PL(and Jesus Cell's PL by proxy) were in the 5 billion range.

Now, at the time of the Buu Saga, both Goku and Vegeta were capable of transforming into SSJ2. Even if we merely assume they were each as powerful as Gohan was during the Cell Games, then that gives them each a PL of 5 billion. The Daizenshuu states that a Potara fusion is like multiplying PLs together, rather than simply adding them--- which means Vegito's total PL was the same as multiplying Goku and Vegeta's PLs together:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14651908/SaiyanFusion_PLs.jpg.html
Having said that, 5,000,000,000*5,000,000,000=25,000,000,000,000,000,000(25 quintillion.) This means Vegito's PL should have technically been about [b]499,999,999,900%
greater than Cell's--- and it only needs to be 2 billion % greater than Cell's to have a shot at busting the galaxy.

Heck, lets even low-ball Goku and Vegeta tremendously, and assume their PL's were only 2 billion. 2,000,000,000*2,000,000,000=4,000,000,000,000,000,000(4 quintillion.) This means Vegito's PL would have still been about 79,999,999,900% greater than Cell's--- and it only needs to be 2 billion % greater than Cell's to have a shot at busting the galaxy.

Food for thought.

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Aside from that riff raff, I think Vegito could bust a galaxy cuz he's just that damn cool. 😛 [/B]

Aside from your assumption that one can add and multiply power levels to reach an accurate estimate on the power of a character (And, well, you can't), or your reliance on the fallible boast of a very arrogant character (Which completely ignores that Kid Buu's planet busting attack, albeit a very powerful one being estimated to have a volume 50 times that of Jupiter, was too big and powerful for Goku and Vegeta to survive or stop), there is one serious fact that completely invalidates your reasonin: The inverse square law.

I consulted dadudemon for confirmation regarding what I believed, but basically, the power of an explosion decreases per unit area as it expands, at an exponential rate. All that energy starts off condensed at a single point (Ground zero), and then expands, losing power rapidly as conservation of energy takes effect.

It would require far more than two billion times the amount of energy required to destroy our solar system to destroy our galaxy.

For an easy example, wanna know how much more energy it takes to destroy the Earth, compared to the moon? About two thousand times. The moon isn't nearly that much smaller than Earth.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Link?

I.... Think he means this....

YouTube video

Originally posted by NemeBro
Aside from your assumption that one can add and multiply power levels to reach an accurate estimate on the power of a character (And, well, you can't), or your reliance on the fallible boast of a very arrogant character (Which completely ignores that Kid Buu's planet busting attack, albeit a very powerful one being estimated to have a volume 50 times that of Jupiter, was too big and powerful for Goku and Vegeta to survive or stop), there is one serious fact that completely invalidates your reasonin: The inverse square law.

I consulted dadudemon for confirmation regarding what I believed, but basically, the power of an explosion decreases per unit area as it expands, at an exponential rate. All that energy starts off condensed at a single point (Ground zero), and then expands, losing power rapidly as conservation of energy takes effect.

It would require far more than two billion times the amount of energy required to destroy our solar system to destroy our galaxy.

For an easy example, wanna know how much more energy it takes to destroy the Earth, compared to the moon? About two thousand times. The moon isn't nearly that much smaller than Earth.

Kind of sad that you'd need to confirm that. "Explosions are weaker the further from ground-zero you get". Common sense, dummy.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I.... Think he means this....

YouTube video


Not bad I guess, compared to DB Evolution anyway, though I see now what KAIKAGE was talking about with the acting.

Its a fan-made movie though, can't expect great acting.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Unless Goku just does the super dragon fist as a finisher again.
But that was only a movie/GT attack wasn't it?