Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
However, that is a loaded question. I know many homosexuals and one of the few things I seem to be able to garner is a consensus on is why they are homosexual. Also, you are asking that question on a public forum where you will only get responses from the usual suspects.
I appreciate that it is a question bounded by the constraints of this forum, but so are all the discussions here. However, I just thought it was the obvious way of putting some genuine light on this thread, rather than simple - simplistic in some cases - conjecture. In light of your reference to a consensus amongst your homosexual friends, do you actually mean to say "unable to garner"? If not, then what is the general opinion amongst your friends?
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
To answer the question, no. No, I never decided to be gay.
This is the answer that I presupposed would be most prevalent. Just as I never woke up one day and simply decided "Hmm, I think I'll like ladies", it would be innately obvious that the same is true in regard to people attracted to others of the same sex.
Finally, the actual topic of this thread is something that was redundant from its inception. Sexual preference that has no detrimental affect on the lives of another is only the business of that individual, unless they wish to share it with another.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
the point has been made that homosexual sex is not biologicaly natural, is not compatible with natural selection (something that every person arguing for it believes in), and is not a genetic mutation.
To all three-
If so... so what?
Biologically natural- I don't care.
Compatible with natural selection- I don't care
Genetic mutation (whatever you mean by THAT)- I don't care
None of those three have anything do do with whether homosexuality is morally acceptable or not.
If you want to talk about something and not seem 'pathetic', try and actually talk to the point.
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I'm not trying to be offencive...But given the choice, would gays like to change there sexuality?
Asking such a question is not offensive. My answer is no. I have been asked this question before, always by straight men and women. In a way, it makes almost as much sense as asking if you chose to be gay. I view it as a descision that would change who you are on a very basic level. I like who I am and wouldn't want to be anyone else. Besides, men are hot.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I appreciate that it is a question bounded by the constraints of this forum, but so are all the discussions here. However, I just thought it was the obvious way of putting some genuine light on this thread, rather than simple - simplistic in some cases - conjecture. In light of your reference to a consensus amongst your homosexual friends, do you actually mean to say "unable to garner"? If not, then what is the general opinion amongst your friends?This is the answer that I presupposed would be most prevalent. Just as I never woke up one day and simply decided "Hmm, I think I'll like ladies", it would be innately obvious that the same is true in regard to people attracted to others of the same sex.
Finally, the actual topic of this thread is something that was redundant from its inception. Sexual preference that has no detrimental affect on the lives of another is only the business of that individual, unless they wish to share it with another.
Oh, I never said it was a simple question. I don't think I did anyway.
And yes, I meant to say "unable".
Originally posted by PVS
im not sure about genetic, but im sure its not chosen.
for instance, if i could choose to be gay i would. for nothing
more than to piss off jerkoff rednecks and bible beaters.
but alas i cant choose to because i dont find males attractive.
Oh, come on, we all know Booger was gay...his "VIP"'s was just an act.
😑 whats revenge of the nerd 2 have to do with this?
what i mean is that people seem to argue that you can choose to be gay. but in order to 'choose' you must be attracted to the same sex. so, sure you can choose whether or not to hook up, but the choice of whether or not you are gay is nonexistant. you cant decide to like someone, or something. you can aquire a taste, but still its beyond choice. the whole argument of choice in homosexuality has no basis other than wingnuts trying to keep homosexuality in the 'sin' category...and why? to prevent the dilemma of having to use their pea brains to confront the possibility that perhaps its not their choice and thus not a sin.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I would like to pose a question that perhaps has been over-looked:Do the majority of homosexuals believe their sexual-orientation is genetic or through choice?
No, I did not choose to be homosexual.
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
I'm not trying to be offencive...But given the choice, would gays like to change there sexuality?
There is nothing wrong with me. I like who I am. Why would I want to change my sexuality?
Originally posted by Ushgarak
To all three-If so... so what?
Biologically natural- I don't care.
Compatible with natural selection- I don't care
Genetic mutation (whatever you mean by THAT)- I don't care
None of those three have anything do do with whether homosexuality is morally acceptable or not.
If you want to talk about something and not seem 'pathetic', try and actually talk to the point.
Well the only reason that I mentioned those three points is that they are the major bones I have to pick with homosexuality being genetic.
I won't say that is morally right or wrong.
I know several gay people, who are nice enough, and I don't hate them.
I love them as people.
I don't have to accept that they were just "born that way", however.
What I meant by "genetic mutation" is mostly the same point you made earlier.
That it is out of their control, and just a freak occurence on the genetic level that happens before birth.
I was told that identical twins, while having the same DNA and an identical genetic structure, can be both straight and gay, because of changes on the cellular level during growth of the cells. i.e.... a genetic mutation.
So....
I thought I was on point. 😉