Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Its my first time posting here..
some one probably already said this but, its not genetic..just for the fact that being gay is not a trait that can be inherited. Human dont have the "straight/gay" gene..
also i dont want to say being gay is a chosen trait, because one day oneself cant wake up and say today im gonna be gay, and the next day i wanna me straight.
its pretty debatable, but if im must choose, i would say its a chosen trait rather than a genetic trait just for the lack of scientific evidence that being homosexual is inherited.

Originally posted by Priest
Its my first time posting here..
some one probably already said this but, its not genetic..just for the fact that being gay is not a trait that can be inherited. Human dont have the "straight/gay" gene..
also i dont want to say being gay is a chosen trait, because one day oneself cant wake up and say today im gonna be gay, and the next day i wanna me straight.
its pretty debatable, but if im must choose, i would say its a chosen trait rather than a genetic trait just for the lack of scientific evidence that being homosexual is inherited.

You NEVER choose your attractions. Being gay is not defined as having sex with other men or other women. It is correctly defined as being ATTRACTED to those of the same gender.

You do not choose your attractions or desires. They come with you as you grow. Therefore you assertion that being gay is a choice, is invalid.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You [b]NEVER choose your attractions. Being gay is not defined as having sex with other men or other women. It is correctly defined as being ATTRACTED to those of the same gender.

You do not choose your attractions or desires. They come with you as you grow. Therefore you assertion that being gay is a choice, is invalid. [/B]

read my post, i dont agree that homosexual is a choosen trait. but in the end of my post, i said if i must choose, ill lean it being a chosen trait.

Homosexuality as a population control mechanism is the just shoe-in term to give homosexuality a natural purpose, if nature needs a mechanism to control population, then this mechanism could be everything, not necessarily homosexualism, it could be assexualism, canibalism, diseases, there is a lot of things that you could thing of....

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Homosexuality as a population control mechanism is the just shoe-in term to give homosexuality a natural purpose, if nature needs a mechanism to control population, then this mechanism could be everything, not necessarily homosexualism, it could be assexualism, canibalism, diseases, there is a lot of things that you could thing of....

Why should it have to act as anything to be valid? I have said it before, we are a sentient species, "natural" should not be the guide line, what is right and good for people should be.

But, I think I would prefer to have homosexuality as a population control as opposed to cannabalism or disease. I must be reading incorrectly, because I doubt you would be saying they are preferable, or just as viable or acceptable means of population control as homosexuality.

I dont believe that anyone is 100% gay or 100% straight.

For me its all about how strong your will is, heck even someone who leans more towards gay can become straight if they wish to be

I suspect it's genetic. I don't see how people can choose to be attracted to somebody.
I'm straight not because I choose to, I'm straight because I find myself attracted to the opposite sex.
Why should it be any different for gay people?

Originally posted by Grimm22
I dont believe that anyone is 100% gay or 100% straight.

For me its all about how strong your will is, heck even someone who leans more towards gay can become straight if they wish to be

Two questions -

1st. - Why should they wish to change?

and

2nd. - So if you wished to be gay and you concentrated really hard, you could become gay? Would you be prepared to demonstrate, as it would be the first bit of real evidence of person actually changing their sexual orientation (and not just hiding it.)

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Two questions -

1st. - Why should they wish to change?

and

2nd. - So if you wished to be gay and you concentrated really hard, you could become gay? Would you be prepared to demonstrate, as it would be the first bit of real evidence of person actually changing their sexual orientation (and not just hiding it.)

ummmm 😕

look over there!

*points ahead*

*runs away*

Thanks for contributing!

#1 = No reason to change.

#2 = No.

I think homosexuality is a 50/50 case of choice or gene inheritance in a way that the first 50: by choice can be alluded to the upbringing of a cetaqin kid in an environment whwere he can be confused in his/her sexuality i.e a boy in an all girl family and vice versa...the other 50:by genes is more plausible..there are certain genes named progesterone(for women) and testosterone (for males) that control the output of being identified as a "girl" or a "boy" radical amounts of it in the wrong sex could produce the homo factor...or it could be the combination of the two factors:by choice and by genetics...either way, its difficult to distinguish them apart for not nescesarilly this conditions are met to produce a homosexual a guy growing up within a girly family might still be able to keep his machismo when he grows up...either way homosexual or not they are all human beings...homosexuality must not be pathologized...

About a year ago(sometime in the beginning of June, 2005), several scientists published a paper wherein they changed a single gene in a male fruit fly, and discovered that the fruit fly was suddenly courting only other male fruit flies (they did the same to a female fruit fly and got the same results).

You can find several covers of the article in places like the nytimes online if you have a subscription, as well as a bunch of other on-line newspapers if you hit up google the right way. I would post a link, but my newness as a member is preventing me from being able to do so.

Of course, humans are increasingly more complex than fruit flies, so there's no exact translation to be made here, but I think it is something that can be taken into consideration. Fruit flies are common subjects for genetic testing, and a lot of experiments done with them have lead to a better understanding of our own genes.

I personally believe that both genetics and the environment have an effect on sexuality, but that it is certainly not something that happens by choice.

By the way, if anyone has any updates in the fruit fly experiments, I'd love to hear them.

Yes, its actually a fascinating study. I read a pop article on it myself, but I haven't read the published paper, therefore I don't fell I can critique it.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yes, its actually a fascinating study. I read a pop article on it myself, but I haven't read the published paper, therefore I don't fell I can critique it.

Try "Drosophila sex gene Barry Dickson" in google scholar. The first hit should be a copy from the article in Cell.

I will tomorrow. I don't do research at 0100.

Holy astringent plum-like fruit, Batman! A new member who isn't whob?

I always thought "holy rush to judgement batman" was a more appropriate phrase.....

but yes its possible.

I thought I'd go for the more absurd... I like the absurd...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Holy astringent plum-like fruit, Batman! A new member who isn't whob?

Who isn't what?

I think some part of the 1337 Q33|\| inside of me just died...

Originally posted by MyOwnMuse
Who isn't what?

I think some part of the 1337 Q33|\| inside of me just died...

Who isn't "Whob" - A Whob (or Whob sock) being a pale worm like creature that floods the forum with irritating, irrational views and, when being throughly defeated in an argument will respond with a spray of invective and "owned" pics, much like an octopus sprays ink.

So, it is good to see a person who isn't Whob, and who seems to have a good understanding of the subject.