Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Started by PVS324 pages

the lack of proof that homosexuality is chosen does not warrant the belief that it is in fact genetic.

the lack of proof that homosexuality is genetic does not warrant the belief that it is in fact chosen.

thats called: logic

Originally posted by Redwolf
The lack of concrete proof of the gay gene is definitely a rational warrant for belief that homosexuality is not genetic.

Go back a few pages in this thread. I posted something earlier regarding genetic experiments in fruit flies which caused them to display homosexual courtship behaviors.

Family and how you are raised factor into it, in my opinion. A survey of homosexual men in the 60's showed that 90% of the men did not have a loving/respectful relationship with their father. I beleive it's 100% mental.

If a 100% lesbian and a 100% gay dude were left alone on a deserted island, would they be attracted to each other after some time?

Originally posted by badabing
If a 100% lesbian and a 100% gay dude were left alone on a deserted island, would they be attracted to each other after some time?

No.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No.

Well, the girl might. 'Cause women do that kind of thing. And Family Guy agrees with me 😉.

Originally posted by MyOwnMuse
Go back a few pages in this thread. I posted something earlier regarding genetic experiments in fruit flies which caused them to display homosexual courtship behaviors.

Um... fruit flies?

So we are somehow akin to fruit flies?

Originally posted by Deus Venèficus
Um... fruit flies?

So we are somehow akin to fruit flies?

It requires a bit of scientific and logical extrapolation.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
It requires a bit of scientific and logical extrapolation.

Oh... well shows what I know. 😛

Originally posted by Deus Venèficus
Oh... well shows what I know. 😛

Well, take medical experimentation on animals. Medicines are tested on animals. Or at least they used to be....

"Now we just give them to Courtney Love and if she's still alive the next day it's approved" -Bill Maher

Originally posted by badabing
If a 100% lesbian and a 100% gay dude were left alone on a deserted island, would they be attracted to each other after some time?

Thats like asking will a 100% straight guy become attracted to another guy on an island after a long time. No way

I'm gonna have to disagree on the "if A was alone on an island with B, would they be attracted to each other after a while?" thing.
It's been documented that some people put in a single-sex environment have been known to develop attraction to the same sex.
Examples:
The Spartans- Being in an army most of their lives surrounded by nothing but other dudes.
The Samurai- See: Shudo.
Schools for Girls- Not just a, unoriginal plot for a lesbian romance movie, it's not uncommon and has been recorded in several memoirs.
The Amazons- Yep... they're in here too.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
I'm gonna have to disagree on the "if A was alone on an island with B, would they be attracted to each other after a while?" thing.
It's been documented that some people put in a single-sex environment have been known to develop attraction to the same sex.
Examples:
The Spartans- Being in an army most of their lives surrounded by nothing but other dudes.
The Samurai- See: Shudo.
Schools for Girls- Not just a, unoriginal plot for a lesbian romance movie, it's not uncommon and has been recorded in several memoirs.
The Amazons- Yep... they're in here too.

You forgot a drunk straight guy in the middle of a gay club.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You forgot a drunk straight guy in the middle of a gay club.

Yep, them too 😉

Originally posted by Bardiel13
I'm gonna have to disagree on the "if A was alone on an island with B, would they be attracted to each other after a while?" thing.
It's been documented that some people put in a single-sex environment have been known to develop attraction to the same sex.
Examples:
The Spartans- Being in an army most of their lives surrounded by nothing but other dudes.
The Samurai- See: Shudo.
Schools for Girls- Not just a, unoriginal plot for a lesbian romance movie, it's not uncommon and has been recorded in several memoirs.
The Amazons- Yep... they're in here too.

And don't forget prisons.

While that is a point, it is often, in such situations, less the real homosexuality. More a bisexual expression dependant on periceived necessity. Certainly with the Spartans and the nature of their relationship with their wives and state and also with prisons and single sex boarding schools.

Originally posted by badabing
If a 100% lesbian and a 100% gay dude were left alone on a deserted island, would they be attracted to each other after some time?

It depends on the Individual.

If you are deprived of sex for such a long time, you will most likely take advantage of a sexual encounter, even one you do not like.

That is why dominant straight men in prison end up forcing weaker men to have sex with them. Not all the men who engage in sexual acts in prison are actually Gay.

Will attraction occur on an island for the gay and lesbian? No...not attraction per say...only the desire to have sex. There is a major difference.

Physical Attraction warrants the pleasurable sexual desire of another person.

Desperate Sexual Need warrants the taking advantage of the only thing that is available. It's like being starved, and given shitty food to eat....if your hungry enough, you will eat it, even though you hate it. 😉

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
And don't forget prisons.

While that is a point, it is often, in such situations, less the real homosexuality. More a bisexual expression dependant on periceived necessity. Certainly with the Spartans and the nature of their relationship with their wives and state and also with prisons and single sex boarding schools.

Exactly. One's body tends to make due with what is has. If there's no guys around and you're a heterosexual woman, the brain'll make some changes to compensate.

Prison rape--or, more accurately, sexual assault--is usually more based on control, I thought.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It depends on the Individual.

If you are deprived of sex for such a long time, you will most likely take advantage of a sexual encounter, even one you do not like.

That is why dominant straight men in prison end up forcing weaker men to have sex with them. Not all the men who engage in sexual acts in prison are actually Gay.

Will attraction occur on an island for the gay and lesbian? No...not attraction per say...only the desire to have sex. There is a major difference.

Physical Attraction warrants the pleasurable sexual desire of another person.

Desperate Sexual Need warrants the taking advantage of the only thing that is available. It's like being starved, and given shitty food to eat....if your hungry enough, you will eat it, even though you hate it. 😉


Thanks for the reply but i could have gone without the prison sex analogy. 😘 🙁

Originally posted by Bardiel13
I'm gonna have to disagree on the "if A was alone on an island with B, would they be attracted to each other after a while?" thing.
It's been documented that some people put in a single-sex environment have been known to develop attraction to the same sex.
Examples:
The Spartans- Being in an army most of their lives surrounded by nothing but other dudes.
The Samurai- See: Shudo.
Schools for Girls- Not just a, unoriginal plot for a lesbian romance movie, it's not uncommon and has been recorded in several memoirs.
The Amazons- Yep... they're in here too.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You forgot a drunk straight guy in the middle of a gay club.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
And don't forget prisons.

While that is a point, it is often, in such situations, less the real homosexuality. More a bisexual expression dependant on periceived necessity. Certainly with the Spartans and the nature of their relationship with their wives and state and also with prisons and single sex boarding schools.

Let's not jump the gun. According to many studies, a much larger percentage of the male population has had homosexual encounters than they would ever admit in public.