Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Started by Rogue Jedi324 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
You're a walking contradiction, first you claim that you wouldn't be a man if you didn't protect your woman, then you claim it didn't bother you then on top of that, you make the blanket accusation "any caring BF/hubby/fiancee would have lost it." Which it is? You lost it because you care or you didn't/don't? Make up your mind.

I am not pretending to be nor would I need to be Freud to see how insecure you are about not only yourself, but mainly your relationship with your fiancee, it's clear as a blue cloudless sky for anyone to see. I'm not a weatherman either, but I don't need one to tell me when it's raining now do I.

The fact that I don't get what? You're insecurities? You're absolutely right, if Bardock42 had jokingly told my wife to give him fellatio on the Internet, I would have laughed it off just like FallenJedi initially did before your insecurity fed rage made her do a 180*. She clearly changed her position from humor to despair in an attempt to not displease you.

How would I do myself a favor? I'm not the one entering into a marriage with doubts and shortcomings about myself and how much my future partner loves me; if you don't want to discuss your issues just say the word, I am not doing this for my advantage as I have nothing to gain (or lose) here, I'm just an observer. For the record, neither Bardock nor I have mis-quoted you or twisted anything you said.


this is getting tiring.
1. clearly you have no idea how relationships work. when your significant other is hurt, you care about how and why they are hurt. you dont just sit back and laugh about it. i said i lost it, by this i mean i did whatever it took to make her feel better. i never questioned my manhood, but apparently you seem to think it is in question.

2. she did a 180? you mean she didnt get upset until i went ape shit, and it was even then only an effort to appease me? man, you just dont get it. at first i was like "well, he's an ass. why did he say that?" then when she walked away from the computer, visibly shaken and greatly upset, of course i was angry. there was no position change, she was deeply hurt and upset from the get go.

3. i dont delude myself into thinking that i am perfect. i know that all relationships have problems. the only thing you can do is deal with them and move on.

4. i am not overly concerned about my "shortcomings." but you seem to know me better than i know myself, because you think i am the epitome of insecurity and overbearingness. you seem to think that i am the type of guy who gets jealous when a guy looks his gal's way. this is SO not true.

5. i am not even gonna comment on the "how much she loves me" remark. i know how much she loves me, and vice versa, and thats all that matters to us. outsiders like you? we could give a rats ass about your opinion.

thats a fact, you are an outsider and an observer. you dont know us and we dont know you. yet you claim that i have all these insecurities, when all i have done is answer every post in a cool headed fashion. if some of my posts seem like i am venting, i am just being frank. there are no "issues" with us, no more than any other ordinary couples have.

one question for you. have you ever been in love? have you ever loved a woman so deeply that her life was more important to you than your own?

the fact stands that this is the internet and unless you manage to pick up a stalker, nobody here is a threat to the integrity of your relationship. i hit on taken ladies all the time here. why? because it doesnt matter. would i ever in person or if i knew them personally? hell no. why, because im afraid their boyfriend/husband would beat me up? not really. i would the common decency to not put them in that position (face down, on top, missionary etc) even if i was capable of breaking their man in half over my knee. but that is irrelevant. even if i was, or bardock was such an ass hole, it still doesnt matter. you are nothing but letters and jpg pictures on a computer monitor to eachother. this is really silly dude, look at yourself.

really, are you going to be one of those guys who kicks the shit out of whomever checks their girl out or makes a pass at them? if she's hot, you may want to reconsider, as that can become quite a burden of an undertaking.

that is all *leaves*

Originally posted by PVS
the fact stands that this is the internet and unless you manage to pick up a stalker, nobody here is a threat to the integrity of your relationship. i hit on taken ladies all the time here. why? because it doesnt matter. would i ever in person or if i knew them personally? hell no. why, because im afraid their boyfriend/husband would beat me up? not really. i would the common decency to not put them in that position (face down, on top, missionary etc) even if i was capable of breaking their man in half over my knee. but that is irrelevant. even if i was, or bardock was such an ass hole, it still doesnt matter. you are nothing but letters and jpg pictures on a computer monitor to eachother. this is really silly dude, look at yourself.

really, are you going to be one of those guys who kicks the shit out of whomever checks their girl out or makes a pass at them? if she's hot, you may want to reconsider, as that can become quite a burden of an undertaking.

that is all *leaves*


the integrity of our relationship was never in danger. i never threatened to kick the shit out of anyone, i am above that type of neanderthal behavior. and i am used to guys checking her out, it doesnt bother me in the least. if that bothered me, THEN i would be insecure.
i am not upset about the act, which i have said, numerous times, over and over again. it just amuses me when someone claims to know more about us than we do ourselves. i am not in the least bit angry. i just felt the need to clarify some things.
i'll bet my left arm that there will be more posts made about my "insecurities", me being "overbearing", and having doubts about my "shortcomings." all BS, but they will be made, mark my words.
i agree, this is silly. someone who knows nothing of you giving you a psych evaluation is silly as hell.
like i dont know you, PVS, i wouldnt be quick to judge you on your posts. i dont know Tired Hiker, so i cant judge him. etc; etc; etc;

ok, my last post of the night:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i just felt the need to clarify some things.

and that is precisely the problem.
it doesnt matter. you said so. so let it go.

anyway hey guess what...this thread has one of them thingamabobbers...whats it called......

topic

you mean a whachamacallit? a thingamajigger? a doodad?

I'll try to push this to the next page.

Damn. Didn't work.

trying to open a new page?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
this is getting tiring.
1. clearly you have no idea how relationships work. when your significant other is hurt, you care about how and why they are hurt. you dont just sit back and laugh about it. i said i lost it, by this i mean i did whatever it took to make her feel better. i never questioned my manhood, but apparently you seem to think it is in question.

2. she did a 180? you mean she didnt get upset until i went ape shit, and it was even then only an effort to appease me? man, you just dont get it. at first i was like "well, he's an ass. why did he say that?" then when she walked away from the computer, visibly shaken and greatly upset, of course i was angry. there was no position change, she was deeply hurt and upset from the get go.

3. i dont delude myself into thinking that i am perfect. i know that all relationships have problems. the only thing you can do is deal with them and move on.

4. i am not overly concerned about my "shortcomings." but you seem to know me better than i know myself, because you think i am the epitome of insecurity and overbearingness. you seem to think that i am the type of guy who gets jealous when a guy looks his gal's way. this is SO not true.

5. i am not even gonna comment on the "how much she loves me" remark. i know how much she loves me, and vice versa, and thats all that matters to us. outsiders like you? we could give a rats ass about your opinion.

thats a fact, you are an outsider and an observer. you dont know us and we dont know you. yet you claim that i have all these insecurities, when all i have done is answer every post in a cool headed fashion. if some of my posts seem like i am venting, i am just being frank. there are no "issues" with us, no more than any other ordinary couples have.

one question for you. have you ever been in love? have you ever loved a woman so deeply that her life was more important to you than your own?

1) I have been in an ongoing relationship for 16 years, but yes, I clearly have no idea, it is so obvious. Anyhow, I never brought up your "manhood", funny you did; is there something there?

2) Exactly, her initial response to Bardock was humor, then only after your replied in anger to Bardock she then replied in despair. "She walked away from the computer, visibly shaken and greatly upset, of course i was angry." a bit melodramatic don't you think? Considering her first response was humor back at Bardock?

3) Good for you?

4) I'm just stating the obvious and don't blow this out of proportion... But yes, I would bet dollars to donuts you are extremely jealous, come on now, you're jealous over a guy on a computer screen, a guy in Germany nonetheless.

5) Don't comment on it, it was never an issue until you brought it up and that is a classic Freudian slip. Great don't care about my opinion, but realize it's an opinion you're giving others by your actions.

Yes I have/do. Are you trying to usurp Bryan Adams for king of cheesy love lines?

Like I said, this ends the second you say so and this thread has a topic (as stated above) and it isn't your insecurities. So?

it's chosen, because i've not seen a gay couple raising a gay kid.

Originally posted by M.T. STYLE
it's chosen, because i've not seen a gay couple raising a gay kid.

How does that make any sense?

Originally posted by M.T. STYLE
it's chosen, because i've not seen a gay couple raising a gay kid.

What?

Originally posted by M.T. STYLE
it's chosen, because i've not seen a gay couple raising a gay kid.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa

Originally posted by M.T. STYLE
it's chosen, because i've not seen a gay couple raising a gay kid.

1) Aren't you gay yourself?
2) Did you choose to be gay?

Originally posted by Robtard
1) I have been in an ongoing relationship for 16 years, but yes, I clearly have no idea, it is so obvious. Anyhow, I never brought up your "manhood", funny you did; is there something there?

2) Exactly, her initial response to Bardock was humor, then only after your replied in anger to Bardock she then replied in despair. "She walked away from the computer, visibly shaken and greatly upset, of course i was angry." a bit melodramatic don't you think? Considering her first response was humor back at Bardock?

3) Good for you?

4) I'm just stating the obvious and don't blow this out of proportion... But yes, I would bet dollars to donuts you are extremely jealous, come on now, you're jealous over a guy on a computer screen, a guy in Germany nonetheless.

5) Don't comment on it, it was never an issue until you brought it up and that is a classic Freudian slip. Great don't care about my opinion, but realize it's an opinion you're giving others by your actions.

Yes I have/do. Are you trying to usurp Bryan Adams for king of cheesy love lines?

Like I said, this ends the second you say so and this thread has a topic (as stated above) and it isn't your insecurities. So?


you make me laugh, you really do. i was having a crappy day at work until i read your post. thanx for that.

Originally posted by M.T. STYLE
it's chosen, because i've not seen a gay couple raising a gay kid.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

OMG. You are special.

Originally posted by M.T. STYLE
it's chosen, because i've not seen a gay couple raising a gay kid
so according to your rhetoric if you wanna be a baseball pro you need to be raised by a baseball pro

never? they've never seen a couple raising a gay kid? are they implying that there is not one gay couple that has raised a gay child, or that they have never seen one personally, with their own eyes? if its the former, thats ludicrous.