Originally posted by finti
I see it as a celebration rahter then a PR stunt and it says it is wrong to pass judgement, yet it is the one thing christian do bestno one say you automatically are stupid, but younger people still lack the experience of older people.
And there is nothing you learn more from than experience
I guess You could view it as a celebration, but I don't thk thats what it is. Quoting the bible is not being judgmental, the only person being that way, is you and it's always towards christians.
Adam-Poe: Being that the guidline to our life is the Bible, then YES it is a guidline to our/MY life. FACT: HE(GOD) does say murder is wrong and HE won't say it's OK. So, your so called theory, makes no since. I don't thk being gay is natural, if it was, theN why do gays/lesbians have to make such a big deal out of it, why is there sooo many people against it, YOU don't see straight people having a parade (FOR straight people ONLY, do ya??) If it was natural, then why would that have to TRY to fit in? Why wouldn't they already fit in? 😉
Gays and lesbians are the ones making a big deal out of it?! Come on now. If people would leave them alone and live their life the way they want without passing judgement on them maybe this wouldn't be such a big issue. Gays have parades as a symbol that they aren't hiding in the shadows about their sexuality: they're here, queer, get used to it. And it is natural because it occurs in nature. Whether you want to believe it or not being gay isn't a fashion statement. It's the way they are and nothing is going to change that. Might as well just accept it and quit asking why they don't "fix" it.
HMM when did I say why don't they fix it? I said, they can change, they chose to act on their feelings. It's choice! they do make a big deal about it, or they wouldn't be trying to promote it sooo much and they are. Like I said earlier, some do say it's ok and others never will no matter how many parades they have, no matter what they do and say, they will never say, it's "OK". If it was natural, they wouldn't have to try to fit in, they wouldn't have to promote it, they wouldn't have to keep saying "it's natural", it would just be Natural, and it's not.
You asked why don't they try to "cure" the chemical imbalance that might be causing homosexuality if that is the case. That is, in a way, implying that homosexuality is a problem and it should be fixed. If you want a quote I will provide you with one.
Also, they don't have to fit in. Why should they? They are only showing to the world that they aren't going to act like they are ashamed of their sexual preference because some people don't agree with it. They don't promote homosexuality, to promote it would mean to go around trying to convert people to homosexuality (kinda like christians do) and convince homophobes it's ok. They simply announce it. They want people to know that they don't believe what they are doing is wrong and that they deserve the same rights as you or me.
I agree that you choose whether to act on homosexuality or not, but that does not mean you choose whether or not you are indeed a homosexual. If you are a male attracted to males but never had sex with one you aren't any less gay then any other gay guy. You are simply denying who you are and living a false life. I mean seriously fiery eyes, no disrespect, but do you think if religion forbid you to act on your basic attractions you would have the will power to get into heaven?
why is it that ur always picking on Christians? I never see u say that Muslims or Buddists are judgemental - u always say its christians. Why?because it is the christians that are the ones in question.
u always say its christians. Why? because many christians are judgmental thats why. But for all means if you want to pick on buddhists and muslims feel free.
I have no more love for the islamic faith than I have for the christian faith, dont mind buddhism cause they dont run your door down trying to get you converted.
I guess You could view it as a celebration, but I don't thk thats what it is. Quoting the bible is not being judgmental, the only person being that way, is you and it's always towards christiansthe bible is judgemental if it is against homosexual and I am that way towards christians cause the follow it. But your book also says it aint up to you to deceide if that is right or wrong casue that would be to pass judgement, so if you quote the bible where the bible passes judgement well then you are judgemental too.
I find it laughable that a country would not allow gay marriages, I thought the US was a country with freedom of religion yet it seems like the christian is allowed to use their religious book to be the decisive factor in this matter. That aint no freedom of religion, that is enforcment of the view of some christians.
Originally posted by finti
[B]because it is the christians that are the ones in question.
Have you seen any muslims in here arguing this case out of their religious viewpoint? Buddhist seems to accept all.
We dont have many radical muslims quoting the Quar'an as evidence that God hates gays... they still exist though. Its just we have to deal with intolerant christians more often than we have to deal with intolerant muslims...
FE- If there was a muslim here quoting the Quar'an as the truth and as a source of knowledge according to Allah and thats why homosexuality is wrong, we would attack his arguments and statements of fact just as harshly as we attack yours.
So far there haven't been any.
Re: It is a illness.
Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
It is not a thng that we are born with.We see a guy and fall in love or have a crash on him.
😂 😆 😂 I have had loads of crashes on guys. Mhmm 🙄
anyway it does not mean that they have to acted upon it.Anyone can control love if they want too.Being that when they get a certain age they like a girl or a boy or (god help us!)both.
schmoll Hey, I like both men and women. God help me, I guess 😕
Jackie. You're a muppet. I think you're amusing cry
The reason there are gay pride parades is so they can stand up and be proud of who they are and show that they aren't hiding in the shadows. According to you, FE, if it was "natural" they wouldn't have parades. There are African-american and hispanic pride parades, too, but going by your argument that they don't need to have parades if it was "natural", that would make them unnatural. Think before you post, FE, because you're coming off as a bigot. They shouldn't have to change to bow to people like you. They should be able to take pride in themselves. Pull the bible out of your throat, please.
Let me tell you all a story. At my high school I was a member (one of the founding members, in fact) of our Gay-Straight Alliance. We had a huge mix of members, but always got shit from people who thought that being in GSA made you gay. Not really; about a quarter of our members were gay, a third bisexual, and the rest straight. We organized movie nights, had meetings every week to discuss issues, and basically tried to get people in our school to be more accepting. In April, we participated in a nation-wide Day of Silence -- the entire GSA (about 30 of us), as well as about 100 other students participated, while about 200 other supported us. Those who participated weren't supposed to speak for the entire day (which was very hard, let me tell you) to show how for so long so many gay people were and are forced to stay silent about who they are. The whole point was to promote acceptance by peaceful protest. It was very successful. Well, not long after, once the parents found out about it, our local newspaper was flooded with angry letters from parents saying that we were disrupting the learning process and promoting homosexuality and presenting political agendas. It was addressed at a school board meeting in June (after graduation), and the ENTIRE GSA showed up, including many people (like myself) who had already graduated and therefore whatever decision they came to wouldn't have effected us. But still we came because this was something that we felt very strongly for and supported very much. Myself, my best friend, and three other people spoke in front of the school board about it. Out of the 5 of us that spoke, only one was still a student of the school. And let me tell you, it was great fun being able to blast the school board and parents for being ignorant and prejudiced. My point is, when you force people to keep themselves silent, you're infringing on their freedom of expression. And in the US, the constitution states that you have freedom until you infringe the freedom of another person. AND if you really want to get technical, banning gay marriage is unconstitutional.
Okay, really long post done.
Originally posted by Silver Stardust
The reason there are gay pride parades is so they can stand up and be proud of who they are and show that they aren't hiding in the shadows. According to you, FE, if it was "natural" they wouldn't have parades. There are African-american and hispanic pride parades, too, but going by your argument that they don't need to have parades if it was "natural", that would make them unnatural. Think before you post, FE, because you're coming off as a bigot. They shouldn't have to change to bow to people like you. They should be able to take pride in themselves. Pull the bible out of your throat, please.Let me tell you all a story. At my high school I was a member (one of the founding members, in fact) of our Gay-Straight Alliance. We had a huge mix of members, but always got shit from people who thought that being in GSA made you gay. Not really; about a quarter of our members were gay, a third bisexual, and the rest straight. We organized movie nights, had meetings every week to discuss issues, and basically tried to get people in our school to be more accepting. In April, we participated in a nation-wide Day of Silence -- the entire GSA (about 30 of us), as well as about 100 other students participated, while about 200 other supported us. Those who participated weren't supposed to speak for the entire day (which was very hard, let me tell you) to show how for so long so many gay people were and are forced to stay silent about who they are. The whole point was to promote acceptance by peaceful protest. It was very successful. Well, not long after, once the parents found out about it, our local newspaper was flooded with angry letters from parents saying that we were disrupting the learning process and promoting homosexuality and presenting political agendas. It was addressed at a school board meeting in June (after graduation), and the ENTIRE GSA showed up, including many people (like myself) who had already graduated and therefore whatever decision they came to wouldn't have effected us. But still we came because this was something that we felt very strongly for and supported very much. Myself, my best friend, and three other people spoke in front of the school board about it. Out of the 5 of us that spoke, only one was still a student of the school. And let me tell you, it was great fun being able to blast the school board and parents for being ignorant and prejudiced. My point is, when you force people to keep themselves silent, you're infringing on their freedom of expression. And in the US, the constitution states that you have freedom until you infringe the freedom of another person. AND if you really want to get technical, banning gay marriage is unconstitutional.
Okay, really long post done.
That was truly awesome Lana, seriously. What you've accomplished in itself is just wonderful. Although I've only known you a short while, I feel so proud of you. Really well done girl hug
Originally posted by Syren
That was truly awesome Lana, seriously. What you've accomplished in itself is just wonderful. Although I've only known you a short while, I feel so proud of you. Really well done girl hug
Thank you, Kerry hug When there's something that I truly believe in and support, I will defend it to the end of the earth ✅
Guys, I need a favor.
Do you think you could provide some info or some links that'll prove that homosexuality is genetic or whatever.
Coz this teacher of mine (who is Christian since I go to a Christian school) tells me that God doesn't make homosexuals or whatever.
I personally think that its genetic or you can "get" gay if you're influenced or shit.
I dunno but I would appreciate the help. thanks
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
Being that the guidline to our life is the Bible, then YES it is a guidline to our/MY life. FACT: HE (GOD) does say murder is wrong and HE won't say it's OK. So, your so called theory, makes no since.
Interesting. How do you explain God ordering Abraham to murder his only son, Isaac in Genesis 22:2-13? The Bible is filled with passages in which God demands the murder of one person or another.
Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
Guys, I need a favor.Do you think you could provide some info or some links that'll prove that homosexuality is genetic or whatever.
Coz this teacher of mine (who is Christian since I go to a Christian school) tells me that God doesn't make homosexuals or whatever.
I personally think that its genetic or you can "get" gay if you're influenced or shit.
I dunno but I would appreciate the help. thanks
It is unlikely that information or exposure to homosexuality will influence a child's sexual orientation. Current research shows that sexual orientation is caused by genetic and biological factors, and is determined before birth. If a child is going to be gay, it is likely that the child is going to be gay regardless of whether or not he/she is exposed to homosexuality.
Consider for a moment that almost all gay men and lesbians have grown up in a heterosexual world, with very little exposure to homosexuality. The overwhelming majority of gay men and lesbians were raised by heterosexual parents, educated by heterosexual teachers, and socialized with heterosexual siblings and friends. They were surrounded by heterosexism in magazines, books, movies and on television, yet they grew up to be gay.
In 1991, Simon LeVey, neuroanatomist for the Salk Institue, found that the INAH3 structure of the hypothalamus in homosexual men is twice as small as those of heterosexual men, more closely resembling those of heterosexual women.
Seven years later, findings published in the March edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences by researchers at the University of Texas - Austin report that the cochlea structure in homosexual women more closely resembles that of heterosexual men.
In both studies, the difference in the structures of homosexuals is attributed to hormone exposure in the womb, evidence that sexual orientation has a biological substrate.
A fingerprint study by J.A.Y. Hall and D. Kumura at the University of Western Ontario at London ON Canada found that a significant percentage of homosexuals have excess ridges on their left hand digits compared to their right hand digits, a characteristic that was not shared by heterosexuals.
This study shows a genetic link to sexual orientation that is determined before birth as fingerprints are fully developed in a fetus before the 17th week and do not change thereafter.
A study by Psychologist Michael Bailey of Northwestern University and Psychiatrist Richard Pillard of Boston University found that if one sibling is homosexual the likelihood of an identical twin also being homosexual is 52%, the likelihood of a fraternal twin being homosexual is 22%, and the likelihood of a genetic or non-genetic sibling being homosexual is 10%.
They also found that in most instances in which identical twins are separated at birth and one twin is homosexual, the other twin is also homosexual.
This study shows that sexuality has a genetic component and is not determined by life experiences.
Dean Hamer at the National Cancer Institute examined the DNA of 40 homosexuals and found that ALL shared a genetic marker in the Xq28 region of the X chromosome.
More recently, Camperio-Ciani of the University of Padua - Italy found that there is no single "gay gene" but rather several genes responsible for sexual orientation. He identified that genetic components are indeed linked to the X chromosome and that there are other components likely to be on other chromosomes as well.
Adam Poe: Interesting. How do you explain God ordering Abraham to murder his only son, Isaac in Genesis 22:2-13? The Bible is filled with passages in which God demands the murder of one person or another.
He's done more than that. On several occasions(according to the bible) he's told people to start war, rape, pillage, and hate, all on top of murder.
Re: Re: It is a illness.
Originally posted by Syren
😂 😆 😂 I have had loads of crashes on guys. Mhmm 🙄schmoll Hey, I like both men and women. God help me, I guess 😕
Jackie. You're a muppet. I think you're amusing cry
I know I am going to hate asking this but what is a muppet?Sorry I never heard of that word before! 🙄 Yes I have crushes on guys too.
A girl likes boys normal a guy liking other guys(not normal)I mean it is ok if they like them but do they have to acted?NO!They don't!JM 💃