Originally posted by cococryspies
There is actually a statistic that most men who's ring finger is longer than their index finger are not straight.So do people choose their finger length?
That's stupid; you got it all wrong... that's too see if you're a werewof.
Edit: Though I guess it could be possible to be both gay and a werewolf, but the long ring finger condition would certainly be caused by the latter.
Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
As I said earlier, how do you inherit the homo gene? Gay people can't get pregnant that way...As far as I know there isnt any evidence to support that claim.
My neighbor is one of five and all four of his brothers are gay, but he is straight. And he has a son who is gay. There are plenty of genes that are recessive and skip generations.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I see a contradiction: how can reproduction be biologically driven but not be genetic?
The two are not mutually exclusive; behaviors can be driven by biological factors without being coded in the human genome.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Sexual reproduction is genetic...that is a fact...not an unsound argument.
To the contrary, it is precisely what is being disputed.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The penis was not designed for the mouth/hands/anus, it was designed for the vagina.
The penis is not designed.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The urges are also genetically driven. (Hormones, androgen receptors, etc.) A human cannot determine, at this time, their bodies natural hormone production nor the number of receptors those hormones are designed for.Sexual reproduction is genetic. You say it is designed for copulation, that was your argument, I pointed out the flaw with that argument but you are saying that my argument about your argument is flawed. Genetics directly determine sexual reproduction and the method that this sexual reproduction is accomplished is copulation. You say that we are designed to just copulate...but why are our bodies designed specifically to reproduce upon copulation.
Yet, copulation does not always result in reproduction.
Originally posted by dadudemon
In other words, if we were just designed to copulate and reproduction is a by product, why do the women ovulate and smell better to men at their peak. (That is a fact...men find the smell of a women who is at her peak to be more attractive...we are programmed genetically that way...same thing with women...women find a man's BO less offensive at their peak.) Even as I type this, I can see the wheels turning in your head with you countering that my arguments all point back to copulation...not reproduction. I, of course, will continue to disagree that copulation is just the method of reproduction because sexual species reproduce by more than just one method.
Homosexuals respond to the pheromone production of members of the same sex; that is a fact. How do you explain this?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Just to recap because I feel like I am rambling, we were not sexually designed specifically to copulate, we were sexually designed specifically to reproduce...hence the word "sexually". Copulation is the byproduct of that. Who knows, we could have been like sea urchins and just released our "junk" into the water and let it mingle to fertilize...that wouldn't be copulation...but egg and sperm as still involved.
Yet, it is the urge to copulate, not reproduce, that causes people to copulate in the first place.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I see what you did there. How about this...if homosexuality is NEVER chosen, explain this situation to me.I went to highschool with a dude named Barry. He was very much attracted to females. In the sixth grade, he pitched a tent in gym class because the hot female gym teacher showed him how to stretch with a hands on demo. I caught him bating to some lesbian porn one time in his room. (I shouldn't have opened the door...I should have knocked first. 🙁 ) He was with guy friends, both gay and straight, and none of us judged.
Guess what? Mr. "Pops Boners to Hot Women" is now homosexual. Not bisexual, homosexual. I asked him how he made the change because it was so "hot after the women's"* back in the day. He said that gradually, he stopped becoming attracted to women and he began to like men, more and more. He thought that he was bisexual at first but realized he had no desire for the opposite sex anymore. He told me that his porn addiction sort of diminished his desire for the opposite sex and women don't excite him sexually. (In his words, "a women just doesn't get me off"😉.
How can this man have become gay? Even when he was young and innocent, he showed strong signs of attraction to the opposite sex...boners can't lie. (Although sex is very much a psychological thing...i.e. what gets you off. Is he lying to me? Did something change in his body very drastically that caused him to be gay after 18? What is it? What happened?
I wouldn't call this a 100% chosen situation but it does appear that this attraction originated from his brain. (Because sexual arousal is very much a psychological thing.)
It appears that his body chose heterosexuality and through his decisions, his mind and body chose homosexuality.
Have you ever known someone who was gay and then later in life chose to be straight, got married, had kids?
My point is, it is not just genetic. Humans have such a powerful mind that they can override what they were born to be. You may argue that they are not truly homosexual or truly heterosexual in situations like that..but I disagree; if a man get can a boner right before he has sex with a women, he is sexually attracted to that women. (Women are a lot different, imo. It seems that their sexual attraction is a lot more psychologically driven than a man's...though they still have the same primal urges.)
Sexual orientation is something one discovers during adolescence through the process of maturing. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, same-sex sexual experimentation is both normal and common among heterosexual children and adolescents. Likewise, opposite-sex sexual experimentation is normal and common among homosexual children and adolescents.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I saw that post...I just forgot about it. Could you expand on that a little more for me?
The article is fairly thorough; the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that sexual orientation is caused by genetic or biological factors. What needs to be expanded upon?