Originally posted by inimalist
Addiction: It's in your genes
Damn, you're sexy. flirt
Sometimes it's both.
But I'd say genetic, for the most part. What slays me is when people claim it's specifically one or the other. One has to take these things by a case by case basis. A part of me thinks everyone is a little bit bisexual -- some more than others.
Homosexuality is even noticable in nature; just looks at certain behavioral patterns of some species. Japanese clown fish actually change their natural sex to adapt to a certain situation which I find utterly beautiful and captivating. Are these animals making a choice, or is it inherent within their very coding? I don't think there's a clear cut answer any way you put it, though it's obvious that they have lesser thinking capabilities which leads one to believe that it very well may be inherent.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Well some doctors believe that homosexuality comes through genes. I wonder when they'll be able to develop a cure.
And is homosexuality just something to be cured like a disease?
What about being heterosexual? Or how about being stupid, or just plain ignorant? We haven't found cures for those kind of things, you being the apparent suspect.
Originally posted by Eon Blue
Homosexuality is even noticable in nature; just looks at certain behavioral patterns of some species. Japanese clown fish actually change their natural sex to adapt to a certain situation which I find utterly beautiful and captivating. Are these animals making a choice, or is it inherent within their very coding? I don't think there's a clear cut answer any way you put it, though it's obvious that they have lesser thinking capabilities which leads one to believe that it very well may be inherent.
I very much doubt that hermaphroditic species would have a concept of gender in a way even remotely similar to ours.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Just like that?
Some people legitimately like the opposite sex: experiencing all "symptoms" of attraction and have loving adventures with the opposite sex. Then, sometimes in a very short period of time, decide/realize that they are gay. That would work well with the sliding scale, too. They could even go back to straight and be nicely adjusted to that life, as well. It's not as set in stone as some believe. It's not entirely genetics, either.
Eon said what I said: We are all some form of bi. It's the extent that we are bi that determines what we are.
I see nothing wrong with someone waking up one day and having an epiphany: "I am gay." To me, that's "normal." Even if they had a nice history of very legit hetero behavior.
Sometimes, it's just experimentation and part of growing up. You gotta figure out who are what you are.
Some people think that you are born gay and, no matter what, you'll be gay. That's simply not true. It's more fluid than that.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Some people legitimately like the opposite sex: experiencing all "symptoms" of attraction and have loving adventures with the opposite sex. Then, sometimes in a very short period of time, decide/realize that they are gay. That would work well with the sliding scale, too. They could even go back to straight and be nicely adjusted to that life, as well. It's not as set in stone as some believe. It's not entirely genetics, either.Eon said what I said: We are all some form of bi. It's the extent that we are bi that determines what we are.
I see nothing wrong with someone waking up one day and having an epiphany: "I am gay." To me, that's "normal." Even if they had a nice history of very legit hetero behavior.
Sometimes, it's just experimentation and part of growing up. You gotta figure out who are what you are.
Some people think that you are born gay and, no matter what, you'll be gay. That's simply not true. It's more fluid than that.
I do have a passing familiarity with the Kinsey Scale, it just surprises me that such abrupt changes would happen.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I do have a passing familiarity with the Kinsey Scale, it just surprises me that such abrupt changes would happen.
As I said to inimalist, I think the scale is too simplified as humans more complex than 7 categories; however, it does much better than what some people think it is: you're either gay or not gay or you're bi. That's simply not the case. We are varying degrees of Bi, acting out int different ways. That's my opinion.
Originally posted by Eon Blue
It doesn't surprise me knowing how sporadic and unpredictable certain people can be.
Yup. Humans are complex social creatures.
Originally posted by dadudemon
As I said to inimalist, I think the scale is too simplified as humans more complex than 7 categories; however, it does much better than what some people think it is: you're either gay or not gay or you're bi. That's simply not the case. We are varying degrees of Bi, acting out int different ways. That's my opinion.
He should have added a perpendicular line. That way people could have "complex" sexuality. *chuckles at own cleverness*
And yes, even within the scale of gay to hetero the Kinsey scale misses a few points (there's a later addition with X [asexuality] added). Then of course there are many more aspects to sexuality than being gay or straight.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He should have added a perpendicular line. That way people could have "complex" sexuality. *chuckles at own cleverness*
lol
Your math professors would be proud.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And yes, even within the scale of gay to hetero the Kinsey scale misses a few points (there's a later addition with X [asexuality] added). Then of course there are many more aspects to sexuality than being gay or straight.
I did not know that thing about the X portion.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Some people legitimately like the opposite sex: experiencing all "symptoms" of attraction and have loving adventures with the opposite sex. Then, sometimes in a very short period of time, decide/realize that they are gay. That would work well with the sliding scale, too. They could even go back to straight and be nicely adjusted to that life, as well. It's not as set in stone as some believe. It's not entirely genetics, either.Eon said what I said: We are all some form of bi. It's the extent that we are bi that determines what we are.
I see nothing wrong with someone waking up one day and having an epiphany: "I am gay." To me, that's "normal." Even if they had a nice history of very legit hetero behavior.
Sometimes, it's just experimentation and part of growing up. You gotta figure out who are what you are.
Some people think that you are born gay and, no matter what, you'll be gay. That's simply not true. It's more fluid than that.
true exactly as u said i was gay when i was fifteen but when this guy asked me out i went back to being straight again. when he kept pestering me about being bi it irritated me because i was convenced i wasnt into girls anymore. after i broke it off with him around halloween time last year i met this girl and i tried being gay again with her... ive been with her for 11 months now...