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I never felt homo, but we always introduced the idea of bi to explore it when we were 11 or 10 etc. We still have not solved that because the word just sounded good still. I'm completely against saying being homo is funny, though. I tell people their mistakes like this are their choice, and the issue goes then to that you want to know what they based their choice on. I do feel my friends are homo, but I know about that because I moved away when I was 12, though I was never that way. It's usually due to some parental "weakness" and that marks the end of most of my intelligences. I usually consider, if it's so genetic, that someone who is homo might be bi or something in the rainbow, that homo people always feel a lot, while straight people don't have to. That usually changes throughout life, as well. Most of what I think is trying to prove that others are homo, so it's a complicated thing to try to answer in a short period. I almost feel that it's the same thing as when I don't know if my friends are good or evil since forever. Same sort of feeling. 😮
I just don't understand how it isn't genetic. I didn't choose to like men, and have to deal with the family/social hardships that come from it. It sucks that my best friend's little brother gets his friends to listen to me talk and laugh at the fact that I'm different. I would be straight in a heartbeat if I could... but I can't.
Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I just don't understand how it isn't genetic. I didn't choose to like men, and have to deal with the family/social hardships that come from it. It sucks that my best friend's little brother gets his friends to listen to me talk and laugh at the fact that I'm different. I would be straight in a heartbeat if I could... but I can't.
"I am what I am"
Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I just don't understand how it isn't genetic. I didn't choose to like men, and have to deal with the family/social hardships that come from it. It sucks that my best friend's little brother gets his friends to listen to me talk and laugh at the fact that I'm different. I would be straight in a heartbeat if I could... but I can't.
Don't sweat it. One day, we'll all be machines and we won't have to worry about sexual attraction...that will be beneath us. lol
Originally posted by AVERY GUERRAI believe that to be true, but you always have to question the original suspect.
I'd definitely say both. You 'choose' to be yourself and stop denying it. I'm gay, and I can believe in the 'genetic' side, because the middle child of my generation all of my relatives is either gay or lesbian. I think that one was molested, but the rest??
Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree and i think it goes both ways, no pun intended. It isn't becoming straight, to begin with. Sexual orientation doesn't really start to occur until a little before puberty, and, on top of that, sexual orientation can change "from this to that", just as the Kinery scale indicates. The genetics do not set in stone the sexual orientation.To think that it's 100% "this way" or 100% "that way" based solely on genetics would be a little dim, don't you think?
Hmm.
I am not sure if what you're saying above is in context with my point. I understand what you're what you're saying above, I'm just having difficulty applying it to what I said, prior.
So, you're saying that if someone was rolled the genetic "gay dice", no matter what, they'll be gay?
Now, here's what I'm saying: There are some that are rolled the genetic "gay dice" but turn out heterosexual and do not know that wiser for it.
Did you bridge the gap above? Are you saying that what I said just then isn't true that no matter what, if one is rolled the gay genetic dice, he or she will be gay? (Again, no matter what.)
Bridge the gap between my thinking and yours or just simply answer a definitive yes or no....and that will work for me.
I don't understand where this is coming from. I'm referring to environment and agreeing with this particular portion of your post:
"I don't disagree with the importance, but would suggest that nothing in human personality, including the biological aspects, is unaffected by the environment or is entirely stable throughout life. The Kinsey model leaves room for that type of description that the biological explanations lack imho. [b]Human sexuality is far too complex to not be a developmental process, influenced by thousands of factors.
"Meaning, it can't be explained solely on genetics. I was agreeing with that portion of your post and furthering it by saying that there are probably some who end up gay, through "developmental process, influenced by thousands of factors" that were born as hetero as anyone else, as far as biology is concerned. (And vice versa.)
I don't understand where this choice thing came from. I thought we were talking about "developmental process[es], influenced by thousands of factors."
Mos Def. The scale does help to make a point that it is, as you once put it, not a 0 or 1 state.
However, how much influence is culture, societal norms, etc. on sexual orientation and how much is biology? We still have to have sex to make babies (for the most part, you pedantic bastards)... It seems that I'm contradicint an earlier point. I am not. My earlier point was an exception to the genetic dice. Not the rule.
There are probably loads of people that would be openly gay, if it weren't for the social stigma around it. I find that shameful of the society I live in. [/B]
I hope I don't offend anyone, but it has always been my firm belief that a persons sexual desires are determined by their state of mind... If I were to believe in a genetic sexual predisposition I would also have to agree that someone in a vegetative state was capable of functioning without a brain. This is not true. I have a sexual preference for skinny women while my friend likes plump women, this is also a choice, I wasn't born feeling this way but became attracted over time to this type of women. However if I were born in the late 1800s when it was more attractive for men to desire larger women I am almost certain my wife would be voluptuous. The same rule applies to people who are attracted to the same gender IMHO.......