Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Started by AdventChild324 pages

Gay people, male or female are just like everyone else with the exception that they like the same gender and that's all.. there's nothing screwed up about that.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AdventChild
Gay people, male or female are just like everyone else with the exception that they like the same gender and that's all.. there's nothing screwed up about that. [/QUOTE

Well its unatural to start with

what's so unnatural about it?...that they like the same gender...so for example if everyone was an atheist and you decieded you wanted to be a christian would that be unnatural? or if every one was gay and u wanted to be straight would that make u unnatural? you tell me?...

Originally posted by AdventChild
what's so unnatural about it?...that they like the same gender...so for example if everyone was an atheist and you decieded you wanted to be a christian would that be unnatural? or if every one was gay and u wanted to be straight would that make u unnatural? you tell me?...

Humans are desinged for Male female reporduction end of story

so what you are implying is that we are biologically programed for male and female. if that's true then why are there gay people?... Humans are designed to think on their own, to feel on there own, to care for and choose the ones they love... Humans are designed to do basically what ever they want......... So you are highly mistakend for what you just said...."End of Story"...

You still havn't answered my question... What's so unnatural about it?

Originally posted by AdventChild
so what you are implying is that we are biologically programed for male and female. if that's true then why are there gay people?... Humans are designed to think on their own, to feel on there own, to care for and choose the ones they love... Humans are designed to do basically what ever they want......... So you are highly mistakend for what you just said...."End of Story"...

Its not your fault that you think that way youve just been brainwashed by liberals

You're avoiding my question....

I have not been brainwashed by liberals.....and you have no idea who i am so that quote was completly uncalled for....

Ive lost interest in aruguing with you not in mood to fight.

Originally posted by Scarpa
I vote with ther scewed up..

Scarpa has spoken

It is better to be silent and thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Originally posted by Scarpa
Well its unatural to start with

This issue was discussed on page 37 and on subsequent pages as well. You would know that if you had bothered to read the thread before posting in it:

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

Homosexuality is natural in the sense that it…
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[*]is present in or faithfully represents nature or life.

[*]is a phenomenon expressive of natural conditions.

[*]conforms to the usual and ordinary course of the material world and its phenomena.[/list]

Illustrating that homosexuality is natural is the fact that it extensively occurs in nature; Homosexuality has been documented in over 190 species and can be observed in nearly all sexually reproducing organisms, the exception being bacteria.

Studies of human sexuality indicate that sexual orientation is fixed and unchangeable, and current research suggests that sexual orientation is in place before birth and is caused by genetic and biological factors:

In 1991, Simon LeVey, neuroanatomist for the Salk Institute, found that the INAH3 structure of the hypothalamus in homosexual men is twice as small as those of heterosexual men, more closely resembling those of heterosexual women.

Seven years later, findings published in the March edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences by researchers at the University of Texas - Austin report that the cochlea structure in homosexual women more closely resembles that of heterosexual men.

In both studies, the difference in the structures of homosexuals is attributed to hormone exposure in the womb, evidence that sexual orientation has a biological substrate.

A fingerprint study by J.A.Y. Hall and D. Kumura at the University of Western Ontario at London ON Canada found that a significant percentage of homosexuals have excess ridges on their left hand digits compared to their right hand digits, a characteristic that was not shared by heterosexuals.

This study shows a genetic link to sexual orientation that is determined before birth as fingerprints are fully developed in a fetus before the 17th week and do not change thereafter.

A study by Psychologist Michael Bailey of Northwestern University and Psychiatrist Richard Pillard of Boston University found that if one sibling is homosexual the likelihood of an identical twin also being homosexual is 52%, the likelihood of a fraternal twin being homosexual is 22%, and the likelihood of a genetic or non-genetic sibling being homosexual is 10%.

They also found that in most instances in which identical twins are separated at birth and one twin is homosexual, the other twin is also homosexual.

This study shows that sexuality has a genetic component and is not determined by life experiences.

Dean Hamer at the National Cancer Institute examined the DNA of 40 homosexuals and found that ALL shared a genetic marker in the Xq28 region of the X chromosome.

More recently, Camperio-Ciani of the University of Padua - Italy found that there is no single "gay gene" but rather several genes responsible for sexual orientation. He identified that genetic components are indeed linked to the X chromosome and that there are other components likely to be on other chromosomes as well.

Furthermore, there is currently no scientific evidence that sexual orientation is learned or can be changed.

Consider for a moment that almost all gay men and lesbians have grown up in a heterosexual world, with very little exposure to homosexuality. The overwhelming majority of gay men and lesbians were raised by heterosexual parents, educated by heterosexual teachers, and socialized with heterosexual siblings and friends. They were surrounded by heterosexism in magazines, books, movies and on television, yet they grew up to be gay.

To prove that homosexuality is not natural, you must show that a.) it is not a phenomenon that occurs in the material world or b.) that it is a phenomenon that occurs in the material world but is itself artificial.

Thne answer my question when you're in the mood to discuss things like an adult..

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It is better to be silent and thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

This issue was discussed on page 37 and on subsequent pages as well. You would know that if you had bothered to read the thread before posting in it:

I have much better things to do than argue with you.

Leave Scarpa alone. He's the one that's been brainwashed. And he doesn't want to argue because you are right. 😬

Originally posted by MC Mike
Leave Scarpa alone. [b]He's the one that's been brainwashed. And he doesn't want to argue because you are right. 😬 [/B]

Whatever *Goes to horror section*

Originally posted by Scarpa
Whatever *Goes to horror section*

Avoiding as usual. 😖

Originally posted by MC Mike
Avoiding as usual. 😖

Dont you have something better to do?

Originally posted by Scarpa
Dont you have something better to do?

All I want to hear from you is a valid argument why Homosexuality is Chosen, or, and this is even funnier, "unnatural".

Scarpa doesn't have a valid argument..... That's why he can't answer...

Originally posted by Scarpa
I have much better things to do than argue with you.

lol, do you actually expect someone to read 55 pages of this thread before they want to state their opinion and try to back it up?!?