Gays cannot change their sexual orientation. Thousands of tried and failed miserably.
I'm not a scientist but I certainly take the word of Ivy League scientists with PHDs in psychology and biology. They say sexual orientations cannot be changed.
Go to the National Psychology Association Website for more info.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEWell I think if a straight guy goes in a gay bar and gets hit on he was asking for it. There is a gay bar at the end of my block and one day some guy came running out of it and he was like "dude I just went in there to play a game of pool and some guy in there just hit on me!" and I was like "well why'd you go in a gay bar?" Doesn't make sense to me.. go in a gay bar to play some pool? There are plenty of bars around here to play pool in too.. it's not like it's the only one.
I occassionally go to straight bars. Does this mean that I am straight because I am in a straight bar? Hardly.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Of course it can, and it's been done, on peoples own accord no less. It has yet to be proven either way, and there is no gay gene..again..so why not stay undecided.None of us are scientists, so we have no authority to speculate.
Therapies to "cure" homosexuality only succeed in convincing homosexuals to remain celebate and bisexuals to confine their relationships to the opposite gender.
There is no evidence of a single instance in which one was able to change his sexual orientation.
Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Well I think if a straight guy goes in a gay bar and gets hit on he was asking for it. There is a gay bar at the end of my block and one day some guy came running out of it and he was like "dude I just went in there to play a game of pool and some guy in there just hit on me!" and I was like "well why'd you go in a gay bar?" Doesn't make sense to me.. go in a gay bar to play some pool? There are plenty of bars around here to play pool in too.. it's not like it's the only one.
The point is that just because one is in a predominately straight bar or nightclub, does not mean that everyone there is heterosexual. Heterosexuals do not think twice about the sexuality of the individuals they approach, why should it be different for anyone else?
Sexual orientation can be changed, regardless of nature, homosexuality has yet to be proven as either genetic or chosen/learned, there is no gay gene, and none of us are scientists, so it isn't our place to say "it is" or "it isn't", you can offer your educated (in some peoples cases) OPINION, but not a DIAGNOSIS, like so many are trying to do.
There's not a contradiction to be had in my logic.
Hormonal imbalance theory has yet to be proven, and has been more of a universal suggestion than anything.
The thing is, nobody can speak for ME, being someone who personally KNOWS people that have gone from gay to straight and vice versa. Who's going to explain cases that they themselves cannot, muchless try and tell ME that I'm lying about said people?
Like I said, go right ahead with these opinions, but there's no solid answer, and doctors will continue to contradict themselves and argue and what not, so the best thing to do is remain neutral.
How does one explain an "imbalance" in bisexuals, where the balance is apparently even in some regard?
Originally posted by Adam_PoEIf 50% of the people were gay than you wouldn't see many people assuming someone is straight. But since the majority of the time they are right in assuming someone is a heterosexual, it's not going to cause as many problems as a gay guy assuming any given male he sees is gay. I'm not saying gay guys do that.
The point is that just because one is in a predominately straight bar or nightclub, does not mean that everyone there is heterosexual. Heterosexuals do not think twice about the sexuality of the individuals they approach, why should it be different for anyone else?
Like I said the entire scientific community believes otherwise. Go to the National Psychology Association website. You are saying that our opinions don't hold water, yet your opinion that sexual orientation is interchangable is viable.
We're not speaking for you. The people who have gone gay to straight are LYING. They're still gay. They just denying it.
If sexual orientation can be changed then do it yourself. Magically change your sexual orientation right now. Take out a picture of Orlando Bloom topless and will your entire nervous system to induce arousement.
Your statement has since been disproven and regarded as myth.
I'm open to all theories but to say its a choice is not true. It has no evidence, basis nor cases to back it. I'm a triple major with psychology as one of them. And from what I've learned is that it is influenced by genetics and environment. More the former than the latter.
I can paint my face black and pretend I'm not white but it doesn't change the fact that I was born white and am white.
Studies have shown that sexuality, whether it be homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality etc is more inclined to be genetic than a learned environmental behaviour.
When a gay person tells me he was born that way I believe him, that's all the proof I need.
When someone tells me they were gay once but decided to be straight I really feel sad that they've allowed society to brainwash and scare them into living a life of denial.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Sexual orientation can be changed, regardless of nature, homosexuality has yet to be proven as either genetic or chosen/learned, there is no gay gene, and none of us are scientists, so it isn't our place to say "it is" or "it isn't", you can offer your educated (in some peoples cases) OPINION, but not a DIAGNOSIS, like so many are trying to do.There's not a contradiction to be had in my logic.
Hormonal imbalance theory has yet to be proven, and has been more of a universal suggestion than anything.
The thing is, nobody can speak for ME, being someone who personally KNOWS people that have gone from gay to straight and vice versa. Who's going to explain cases that they themselves cannot, muchless try and tell ME that I'm lying about said people?
Like I said, go right ahead with these opinions, but there's no solid answer, and doctors will continue to contradict themselves and argue and what not, so the best thing to do is remain neutral.
How does one explain an "imbalance" in bisexuals, where the balance is apparently even in some regard?
So basically what you are saying is that i can open a camp or a society to turn hetrosexuals into homosexuals, and when you come over for a treatement, the treatment WILL make you HOMOSEXUAL?
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
How do psychologists explain a homosexuals approach to relationships. What is it that they are supposedly "genetically" predisposed to being attracted to?
I think what it comes down to is that people are simply attracted to different things. Some gay people find the thought of having sex with someone of the other gender as disgusting as some straight people find the thought of having sex of someone of the same gender. Others don't. I, while I am straight, am willing to experiment. I will admit that I find women to be attractive.
I don't really think homosexuality is entirely genetic...I think part of it is, and part of it is surroundings. A mixture of the two, if you will. Or that possibly it's the genes that makes one gay, but the surroundings that allows them to express it.