Originally posted by hunchy
Kerry was owned in the last debate...I'll tell you that.
✅ he was, i found Bush did a much better job, and presnted his argument better. I found it easier to beleive Bush than Kerry on most things.
Though, for one thing that Bush said, about the communinty colleges and stuff. His point was how to get a poor, jobless citizen, into college to get educated and get a job.
He said he would give them money to go to college. Where will this money come from? The middle class, duh. And this extra money and taxes just may potentually lead to yet another, poverty line citizen.
i especially love when he was confronted with the topic of outsourcing jobs, and he went off on his little tangent on education...still trying to make the connection...
offering incentives to companies who ship american jobs overseas=kids need to learn to read and write....
still cant figure that one out
any help?
😐 seriously.... how would you go about convincing a company to hire an American with equal education who wants to get paid $50 an hour when a Indian will do it with the same credentials for $7 ... eduacation is the only thing we can hope to stop them.... if you didn't notice... its not illegal to outsource your company.... ITS CALLED FREE MARKET ECONOMY NOT COMMUNISM OR FACISM.
Bush's 2004 Economic Report of the President advocated outsourcing. Responding to criticism of the report, N. Gregory Mankiw, chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisors, said: "Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade. More things are tradable than were tradable in the past. And that's a good thing." According to Forrester Research, 3.3 million jobs will be outsourced by 2015. [Los Angeles Times, 2/10/04; Newsweek, 3/1/04]
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In January 2004, in response to the problems facing manufacturers, Bush unveiled a long-awaited Commerce Department report on the subject. But the Washington Post reported: "Most of the recommendations repackage previous administration proposals. They include a call to study tax simplification with the aim of reducing businesses' cost of complying with tax laws, and to inventory the impact of existing and proposed regulations." [Washington Post, 1/16/04]
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bush not only supports outsourcing, but gives companies who pull out of the U.S. a lovely tax break...you do know what a 'tax break' is, right?
Originally posted by PVS
Bush's 2004 Economic Report of the President advocated outsourcing. Responding to criticism of the report, N. Gregory Mankiw, chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisors, said: "Outsourcing is just a new way of doing international trade. More things are tradable than were tradable in the past. And that's a good thing." According to Forrester Research, 3.3 million jobs will be outsourced by 2015. [Los Angeles Times, 2/10/04; Newsweek, 3/1/04]
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In January 2004, in response to the problems facing manufacturers, Bush unveiled a long-awaited Commerce Department report on the subject. But the Washington Post reported: "Most of the recommendations repackage previous administration proposals. They include a call to study tax simplification with the aim of reducing businesses' cost of complying with tax laws, and to inventory the impact of existing and proposed regulations." [Washington Post, 1/16/04]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------bush not only supports outsourcing, but gives companies who pull out of the U.S. a lovely tax break...you do know what a 'tax break' is, right?
you still didn't answer my first question? a subsidy. 😐
sub·si·dy
1-Monetary assistance granted by a government to a person or group in support of an enterprise regarded as being in the public interest.
2-Financial assistance given by one person or government to another.
3-Money formerly granted to the British Crown by Parliament.
are we here to debate or patronise?
and why does bush support outsourcing?
TOP OUTSOURCER: American Express
Contributions directly to the President Bush: $39,000
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $422,405
TOP OUTSOURCER: Bechtel
Contributions directly to President Bush: $10,300
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $465,150
TOP OUTSOURCER: Convergys
Contributions directly to President Bush: $7,500
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $5000
TOP OUTSOURCER: Dell Computer
Hard Money to Bush: $40,250
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $793,550
TOP OUTSOURCER: Delphi Automotive
Contributions directly to President Bush: $10,950
TOP OUTSOURCER: Fidelity
Contributions directly to President Bush: $164,908
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $574,270
TOP OUTSOURCER: Ford
Contributions directly to President Bush: $76,200
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $268,257
TOP OUTSOURCER: General Electric
Contributions directly to President Bush: $49,125
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $756,987
TOP OUTSOURCER: Hewlett Packard
Contributions directly to President Bush: $6,200
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: 29,000
TOP OUTSOURCER: HSBC
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $4,240
TOP OUTSOURCER: McKinsey & Co
Contributions directly to President Bush: $19,500
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $102,500
TOP OUTSOURCER: Sallie Mae
Contributions directly to President Bush: $19,250
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $261,000
Originally posted by PVS
sub·si·dy1-Monetary assistance granted by a government to a person or group in support of an enterprise regarded as being in the public interest.
2-Financial assistance given by one person or government to another.
3-Money formerly granted to the British Crown by Parliament.are we here to debate or patronise?
Did you look in the dictionary all by yourself? 😊
Granting a subsidy to a company is basically paying the difference for the financial hit it takes for hiring American workers. Thats what we do to make up the difference. 😐
Originally posted by PVS
and why does bush support outsourcing?TOP OUTSOURCER: American Express
Contributions directly to the President Bush: $39,000
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $422,405TOP OUTSOURCER: Bechtel
Contributions directly to President Bush: $10,300
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $465,150TOP OUTSOURCER: Convergys
Contributions directly to President Bush: $7,500
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $5000TOP OUTSOURCER: Dell Computer
Hard Money to Bush: $40,250
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $793,550TOP OUTSOURCER: Delphi Automotive
Contributions directly to President Bush: $10,950TOP OUTSOURCER: Fidelity
Contributions directly to President Bush: $164,908
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $574,270TOP OUTSOURCER: Ford
Contributions directly to President Bush: $76,200
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $268,257TOP OUTSOURCER: General Electric
Contributions directly to President Bush: $49,125
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $756,987TOP OUTSOURCER: Hewlett Packard
Contributions directly to President Bush: $6,200
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: 29,000TOP OUTSOURCER: HSBC
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $4,240TOP OUTSOURCER: McKinsey & Co
Contributions directly to President Bush: $19,500
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $102,500TOP OUTSOURCER: Sallie Mae
Contributions directly to President Bush: $19,250
Soft Money contributions to the Republican Party: $261,000
hysterical yes... do you also know that it is normal for almost every major company to contribute to each campaign... 😐 you know.... making sure that you are on both band wagons.
Thank you. I'm sure there are fans of both parties out there that thinks that their candidate was best in each debate. I thought that Bush was better in both the second and third, and I agree he didn't do well in the first...but at least he made a joke about it in the third...saying how his daughter's told him not to "scowl"...I like how he's funny and enthusiastic...not a boring, droning on lawyer robot like Kerry.
"he was, i found Bush did a much better job, and presnted his argument better. I found it easier to beleive Bush than Kerry on most things.
Though, for one thing that Bush said, about the communinty colleges and stuff. His point was how to get a poor, jobless citizen, into college to get educated and get a job.
He said he would give them money to go to college. Where will this money come from? The middle class, duh. And this extra money and taxes just may potentually lead to yet another, poverty line citizen."