Originally posted by King CastleSo Creed is faster than Spidey by that theory? Funny.
whatever...just to further make the point during this time Logan was depicted close to spiderman level speed.
so that makes Sabretooth speed just as if not more impressive that he can fight logan at that level early in his career.
see here we are establishing a characters consistent speed depiction and making a logical and informed decision.
Originally posted by snoopdoggi didnt say that per say but that isnt my point i am establishing speed/reflex tier to being among them.
So Creed is faster than Spidey by that theory? Funny.
but, if you want.
Sabreooth is more then capable of chasing down spiderman and choking him.. which says something for his skills, speed, reflex with what we know of spiderman.
Originally posted by King CastleThat he jobs a lot to lower characters who aren't as fast as him even though he also has an advanced warning sense? lol 😛
i didnt say that per say but that isnt my point i am establishing speed/reflex tier to being among them.but, if you want.
Sabreooth is more then capable of chasing down spiderman and choking him.. which says something for his skills, speed, reflex with what we know of spiderman.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Anyways I'm off to get some chicken liver and them some Catfishing. Post more of these *zomg* speed feats!
Those really weren't ZOMG speed feats.. they were just par for the course comic material.....
Now call me crazy but I'm having a hard time imagining that Blade could replicate this feat even with all his ZOMG vampire powers.. 😐
Originally posted by Lunacydeno.. spidey tends to have to push his limits both reflex and spidey sense just to keep himself from being skewered.
That he jobs a lot to lower characters who aren't as fast as him even though he also has an advanced warning sense? lol 😛
and we know that logan is just setting him up and not trying to actively kill him but wound him... plus spidey has admitted that he knows logan holds back..
now Sabretooth plays with wolverine constantly when wolverine is pushing his limit and even then sabe casually slaps him around or grabs his wrist.
now here is the kicker spidey has had help to fight sabe from pun and wolverine and still sabe manages to push them aside to chase after the spider or smacks the spider to get to logan..
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now lets talk about Turbo sabe and weapon X upgrade sabe.
Hate to break it to you King, Spider-Man holds back waaaay more than most people in comics, especially the two you were mentioning. It's part of his character.
Originally posted by LunacydeWell prove with feats that he's faster than Spider-Man. This is KMC going all out, Spider-Man running his mouth and getting hit is no different than him getting nailed by Ock or something. Hell Spider-Man blitzed the X-Men once. Not aiming this at you just saying.
That he jobs a lot to lower characters who aren't as fast as him even though he also has an advanced warning sense? lol 😛
Speed feats please. I hate to say this is off topic.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hate to break it to you King, Spider-Man holds back waaaay more than most people in comics, especially the two you were mentioning. It's part of his character. Well prove with feats that he's faster than Spider-Man. This is KMC going all out, Spider-Man running his mouth and getting hit is no different than him getting nailed by Ock or something. Hell Spider-Man blitzed the X-Men once. Not aiming this at you just saying.Speed feats please. I hate to say this is off topic.
I just quoted you to say that.
Originally posted by jinzinI was being facetious to some extent about the Blade argument. All street levelers aren't superhuman in speed by marvel terms no more than strength. By real life terms yes. Spider-Man has had more impressive and continuous speed feats before he's even had his coffee. I made a thread about this explicitly (before it got closed) and the point was clear. Spider-Man is pretty much the fastest "street" character. He's cleared out rooms, and even in the avengers comic he was moving quite faster than the rest of the group in fights.
Well that's not exactly accurate at all.Spiderman isn't definitively stated as being faster than other superheroes, and infact many of the encounters between him and other superheroes imply differently... He IS stated as being superhuman in speed... but let's get real all streeters worth their salt are superhuman in speed... It isn't just about the relativity of his feats to other generic feats. The relativity is why a lot of people contend that he isn't on another level of speed.
And yet...
All we're treated to is his superhumanhood for reference. 😬Even then we all give Spiderman a benefit of the doubt. Most of us with brains in our heads have no problems admitting he's faster than most streets and better at using his speed than most anybody. We just don't think he's "can't ever be hit" kind of fast.. because he isn't.
Sabretooth IS definitively stated as being faster than Wolverine. It isn't something worth dismissing.
He's also referenced as having inuman speed and that was ALSO mutliple upgrades ago.
Even by your notions about superhuman traits I'd think you would be supportive of Sabretooth in this thread CM. 😬 I mean Creed is VASTLY more superhuman than Blade is.This isn't so much relativity, it's more due to what kinds of feats Creed does have. It's like Lizard. He doesn't have generic speed feats, but statements about his speed and how he performs in fights with Spiderman are enough to give him a reputation for speed...
So why when Sabretooth has all the proof to back the claim, is he not also given this same treatment? 😕
Of course Batman, Nightwing, etc. can move with him at slow times, but in high gear he is at another level physically. Many characters have commented on this. If he's fighting multiple people, or higher tiered people, look at his speed then vs. when he fights a human or a peak human, it isn't even the same person. He holds back. I don't think he is unhittable by a long shot. But going all out with no CIS (which we've seen before, or close to it) he stomps the street characters for the most part. Peak humans of course. Not some of the higher tiers. His "hits" would be a lot more dangerous against them than in return.
Anyways my whole point was more about people "proving" Sabes strength and speed vs simply saying "well Wolverine..." which isn't allowed anyways.