Originally posted by BatmanOfGotham
No sh*t.
...........well your comment was not only ignprant, but rediculous.
Do you really believe capt will hit wolverine 15 times with out logan hitting him onces?
There phyiscally the same, There just as skill. If anything they hit eachother roughly the same amount of the time, but wolverine has a healing factor which makes it closes to impossiable for capt to get the KO.
Cap might be able to smash logans head hard enuf with a sheild to make him black out a bit, but cap would have to try that fast. The longer the battle last the harder for cap to win. Yes his stamina is infinite or something but he can't heal from the damages he will incur during a long fight with logan. Logan is bound to nick him a few good times.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
...........well your comment was not only ignprant, but rediculous.Do you really believe capt will hit wolverine 15 times with out logan hitting him onces?
There phyiscally the same, There just as skill. If anything they hit eachother roughly the same amount of the time, but wolverine has a healing factor which makes it closes to impossiable for capt to get the KO.
Originally posted by Etrigan
If Cap were to throw his shield, as hard and fast as he could, with ricochet options, at Wolverine's head, the moment the fight started, could Wolverine dodge it? And if it hit him, would he be knocked out or killed?Note that I am asking this so that I can come to a clearer decision on the matter.
It would not KO him or even come closes to it let a lone kill him.
Also Logan can dodge bullets he not going to have trouble dodging a shield or deflecting it.
What are you loling at, Battlehammer? I didn't post that to say "Cap could easily win by doing that." I just wondered whether it would. I'd also like to state that Cap has knocked Logan out by smashing him over the head with his shield before while he was distracted, so "it would not KO him or even come close to it" is slightly off the mark seeing as if the shield is thrown as hard and fast as possible, it's going to be travelling with way more power than if Logan gets struck with it while it's still in Cap's hand.
Wolverine 6/10
....unless Cap could get the drop on him with a nerve strike or pressure point. But that's unlikely, considering Wolverine's speed and agility. So yeah, Wolverine 6/10.
Originally posted by Etrigan
What are you loling at, Battlehammer? I didn't post that to say "Cap could easily win by doing that." I just wondered whether it would. I'd also like to state that Cap has knocked Logan out by smashing him over the head with his shield before while he was distracted, so "it would not KO him or even come close to it" is slightly off the mark seeing as if the shield is thrown as hard and fast as possible, it's going to be travelling with way more power than if Logan gets struck with it while it's still in Cap's hand.
I lol becuases it was a rather abd question. I mean any individual who has ever read wolverine knows that would not work. I assumed you had at least read him before, but I guess I was mistaken.
LOL Capt was only able to KO Logan wiht a sneak atttack after logan had already been damaged badly and stated prior to capt sneak attack that he "never been in such bad shape"
Originally posted by Etrigan
Wolverine 6/10....unless Cap could get the drop on him with a nerve strike or pressure point. But that's unlikely, considering Wolverine's speed and agility. So yeah, Wolverine 6/10.
6/10? Logan with out his healing factor would be a coin toss between him and capt. With it he wins pritty much every time.
Also pressure points and nerve strikes do not work on wolverine.
Originally posted by EtriganWell he's blocked it with his claws when Logan wasn't even lookin at him. And then dodged cylcops' eye beams with his back towards Scott... So.. yeah.
If Cap were to throw his shield, as hard and fast as he could, with ricochet options, at Wolverine's head, the moment the fight started, could Wolverine dodge it? And if it hit him, would he be knocked out or killed?Note that I am asking this so that I can come to a clearer decision on the matter.
There we go, a straight answer. Thank the lord.
Reason I say 6/10 is because they are widely considered to be two of the best H2H combatants/martial artists in the Marvel universe, and so Cap would be able to hang with Wolverine in solid H2H. Cap could block Logan's claw attacks with his shield and keep him moving with shield strikes of his own and shield throws, perhaps manage to hit him hard enough in the neck or throat to knock him out.
But Wolverine still wins the majority.
Battlehammer, do you have proof or any events that say pressure strikes/nerve strikes/whatever don't work on Logan.
Originally posted by jinzin
Well he's blocked it with his claws when Logan wasn't even lookin at him. And then dodged cylcops' eye beams with his back towards Scott... So.. yeah.
Yeah but lets assume thats going to happen all the time.
Originally posted by Etrigan
There we go, a straight answer. Thank the lord.Reason I say 6/10 is because they are widely considered to be two of the best H2H combatants/martial artists in the Marvel universe, and so Cap would be able to hang with Wolverine in solid H2H. Cap could block Logan's claw attacks with his shield and keep him moving with shield strikes of his own and shield throws, perhaps manage to hit him hard enough in the neck or throat to knock him out.
But Wolverine still wins the majority.
Battlehammer, do you have proof or any events that say pressure strikes/nerve strikes/whatever don't work on Logan.
6/10 is reasonable.