Captain America vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Furthermore lets have a look at the Wolverine vs Shingen fight.

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I just read the comic which this fight was in. Wolverine was not poisoned at the beginning of the fight and like I said its a good showing for Shingen not Wolverine, and it shows how his adamantuim and HF make him less skilled than people who don't have it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I just read the comic which this fight was in. Wolverine was not poisoned at the beginning of the fight and like I said its a good showing for Shingen not Wolverine, and it shows how his adamantuim and HF make him less skilled than people who don't have it.

Yeah, I 1st read that comic years ago. That fight was a rematch, as in their 1st encounter Wolvie lost, because he was poisoned. He was at full strength for the 2nd fight though.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Yeah, I 1st read that comic years ago. That fight was a rematch, as in their 1st encounter Wolvie lost, because he was poisoned. He was at full strength for the 2nd fight though.

👆 You agree though that its was a good showing for Shingen considering that he was just a 'normal' human?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I just read the comic which this fight was in. Wolverine was not poisoned at the beginning of the fight and like I said its a good showing for Shingen not Wolverine, and it shows how his adamantuim and HF make him less skilled than people who don't have it.

I am a very important question.

How the hell did Wolverine cut Shingen's tie with a backhand swing with claws? Last time I checked, they're only sharped on one side. 🤨

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I am a very important question.

How the hell did Wolverine cut Shingen's tie with a backhand swing with claws? Last time I checked, they're only sharped on one side. 🤨

*shrug*

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
👆 You agree though that its was a good showing for Shingen considering that he was just a 'normal' human?

A very good showing, I was surprised how hard a fight it was for Wolverine. This story was from the 80's though, and if Logan had a fight against the same adversery in recent years, he would be shown to beat him easily, without breaking sweat.
I prefered the way he was written back then.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I am a very important question.

Nah, you're Metalmanx. 😄

Originally posted by Metalmanx
How the hell did Wolverine cut Shingen's tie with a backhand swing with claws? Last time I checked, they're only sharped on one side. 🤨

Maybe that's just the position Wolverine's hands ended up in after he slashed Shingen's tie? From the position he is in now he can still counter attack quickly and effectively... but if his arms were in the opposite position with his claws facing backwards he'd be pretty screwed. I'd say chances are that's the position he adjusted his arms to in the fallow through.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
👆 You agree though that its was a good showing for Shingen considering that he was just a 'normal' human?

Keep in mind that Shingen was supposed to be ubre skilled, and incredibly strong and fast. He was supperior to Silver Samurai in every possible way, which would put him well above peak human.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nah, you're Metalmanx. 😄

...Ouch. cry

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Keep in mind that Shingen was supposed to be ubre skilled,

Thats is the point. Wolverines HF and adamantuim saved him not his skill.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

and incredibly strong and fast.

Are you using the fact that he beat Wolverine as evidence that hes incrdeibly strong and fast? All you know is that hes better than Wolverine he is obvously strong and fast but all you know is that he had more skill than Wolverine.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

He was supperior to Silver Samurai in every possible way,

He was superior to SS in every possible way? I tell you what please explain how he was superior to SS, im betting you dont know exactly what attributes made him superior but obvoulsy skill is one of them.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

which would put him well above peak human.

No it wouldnt it could just simply mean hes more skillful, thats you just trying to blow thing out of proportion.

What we do know is that Shingen did not have any enhancements and he was very skilled, so for you to say he was well above peak human thats just you making stuff up......I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I am a very important question.

How the hell did Wolverine cut Shingen's tie with a backhand swing with claws? Last time I checked, they're only sharped on one side. 🤨

Same way Cap's shield is 'razor sharp' and yet bounces harmlessly off the backs of peoples' skulls.

Comic book magic.

Originally posted by Soljer
Same way Cap's shield is 'razor sharp' and yet bounces harmlessly off the backs of peoples' skulls.

No, thats cuz Cap is so skilled he throws it as the precise angle as to not cut anyone's head off. 😛

Originally posted by Soljer
Same way Cap's shield is 'razor sharp' and yet bounces harmlessly off the backs of peoples' skulls.

Comic book magic.

Ah yes.

*bump*

Originally posted by Soljer
Same way Cap's shield is 'razor sharp' and yet bounces harmlessly off the backs of peoples' skulls.

Comic book magic.

Caps shield isn't razor sharp anyway.

Shield Bash > SNIKT

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*bump*

Caps shield isn't razor sharp anyway.

I have to disagree. Cap has said its razor sharp or the cutting edge. It was even compared to his energy shield that the energy shield didn't have the sharp edge of his original shield.

Cap has used his shield to through completely through rotors of helicopters, thick engines, and has even put it through to escape a nuclear containment unit.

Originally posted by nimbus006
No, thats cuz Cap is so skilled he throws it as the precise angle as to not cut anyone's head off. 😛

I agree Cap is a guy who can bank the shield on 8 places to hit a target. I imagine he might just know how tweak his shield throw to bounce off someone to KO them or whenever he chooses to make it a weapon of destruction.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
I have to disagree. Cap has said its razor sharp or the cutting edge. It was even compared to his energy shield that the energy shield didn't have the sharp edge of his original shield.

Right he actually said its razor sharp? My problem is that oridnary people have picked it up without hurting themselves.

Originally posted by Daredevil1

Cap has used his shield to through completely through rotors of helicopters, thick engines, and has even put it through to escape a nuclear containment unit.

That in itself does not prove its razor sharp. I thought this was because it was an indestructible weapon and Cap was very skilled. Its an edged weapon, but I kinda thought the edges were blunt. Hell Bullseyes can make normal objects extremely dangerous.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Right he actually said its razor sharp? My problem is that oridnary people have picked it up without hurting themselves.

Yes he has said its razor sharp. Actually people have picked it up and hurt themselves as well as seen in Fallen son. Besides people pick up razor sharp knives without cutting themselves it just depends on how you grab.

That in itself does not prove its razor sharp. I thought this was because it was an indestructible weapon and Cap was very skilled. Its an edged weapon, but I kinda thought the edges were blunt. Hell Bullseyes can make normal objects extremely dangerous.

Well do you have quotes that say its blunt in the books? Because I can give you quotes that say quite the opposite.

^ I'd like to see those quotes. It was supposed to be a tank lid and while I've seen it cut all sorts of things, I was under the impression it was through simple applied force. I'd like to see the quotes.