Originally posted by StyleTime
Something I will never get is why Julian didn't TK the sword along with Wolverine."I'll suspend Wolverine in the air to keep everyone safe, but I'll let him play with his sword. Don't want him to get bored floating up there while we chit chat."
Cause Hellion is a loser, there is a reason they haven't given him replacement arms. 😎
Originally posted by King Castle
TK based on willpower logan would struggle to break through.. i dont see hellion bein on jean grey power skill level and she was having a hard time maintaining logan within her tk due to his willpower exerting itself and fighting her to break free 😮💨
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that seems nonsensical... to me thats like saying you lifted a wall with willpower...
Originally posted by inimalistdont blame me it's how TK works.. hell, its how a power ring works. it's dependent on the person and who they face.
:/that seems nonsensical... to me thats like saying you lifted a wall with willpower...
hence why they can lift mountains and struggle to hold a person due to their own willpower fighting them. 😎
Originally posted by King Castle
dont blame me it's how TK works.. hell, its how a power ring works. it's dependent on the person and who they face.hence why they can lift mountains and struggle to hold a person due to their own willpower fighting them. 😎
well, like, its cool that the ring works like that, because there is a connection between the ring and the mind of the wearer. I'm not arguing that willpower is some ambigious and ill defined concept, that is waaaaaaaaay too academic for comics...
TK is a physical force. It works on rocks. It has nothing to do with the mind of the target...
eh, whatever, but still, if I wrote the comic...
Originally posted by inimalist
well, like, its cool that the ring works like that, because there is a connection between the ring and the mind of the wearer. I'm not arguing that willpower is some ambigious and ill defined concept, that is waaaaaaaaay too academic for comics...TK is a physical force. It works on rocks. It has nothing to do with the mind of the target...
eh, whatever, but still, if [b]I
wrote the comic... [/B]
It's not a physical force it's a meta-physical force and like all forms of psychokinesis it is modified by will power in virtually every genre / medium it appears in
think of it like this a mountain isnt alive it doesnt resonate any form of disruptive energy output, it's static.
while on the other hand a person is moving struggling and is radiating a limited lvl of disruptive energy output in his immediate vicinity radiating a few inches or feet from him which makes him harder to grasp slippery.
it's kinda how i see it anyways.
Originally posted by King Castle
TK based on willpower logan would struggle to break through.. i dont see hellion bein on jean grey power skill level and she was having a hard time maintaining logan within her tk due to his willpower exerting itself and fighting her to break free 😮💨
Wolverine would've been driven half way into the ground from the get go if it was me. Just sayin'. 😛
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Cause Hellion is a loser, there is a reason they haven't given him replacement arms. 😎
Originally posted by inimalist
eh, whatever, but still, if [b]I wrote the comic... [/B]
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
WWH held tectonic plated together and his foot steps threatened to destroy the planet, and the best he could do was make Wolverine punch drunk. Cap would need a century to equal the damage of a single WWH punch.
Do you need to read the issue again?
Wolverine got punch drunk from his brain hitting his skull over and over again. Unless you want to show me how Hulk having class 100 strength matters when he explains the method behind incapacitating Wolverine lies in jarring his brain inside his skull then you making a case for Hulk's strength really doesn't matter.
The same thing happens all the time to regular people who get hit to much. Strength of the blows doesn't matter unless you think because Wolverine's skull is more durable then a humans it means its not subject to the same type of trauma.
it's not. you may not be aware of this but his Adamantium skull actually does absorb kinetic force as one of it's properties similar to Vibranium just not the high extreme end.
the tinkerer talked about it to Daken about the adamantium housing actually does.. Logan has actually explained it as well to either DD, Spidey and another on looker in mid 80's 1st time they witness logan take a superhuman brick punch unscathed.
you also have to realize who it is causing the trauma who would be far easier to bypass the kinetic absorption the adamantium skull provides to rattle his brain the way he did.
that doesnt translate to every joe shmoe street leveler able to generate and replicate said feat.
just because something can break doesnt mean you will be the one to do it
Originally posted by SasuOna
Do you need to read the issue again?
Wolverine got punch drunk from his brain hitting his skull over and over again. Unless you want to show me how Hulk having class 100 strength matters when he explains the method behind incapacitating Wolverine lies in jarring his brain inside his skull then you making a case for Hulk's strength really doesn't matter.
Because his brain was hitting his skull... with the force of class 100 punches. Did you really need that explained to you? You really don't realize how that is different than his brain bouncing off his skull with a class 2 punch? Seriously?