Captain America vs. Wolverine

Started by StyleTime164 pages

Originally posted by Deadline
Well it looks like you may not have read through the thread properly.

That is always a possibility, but it is unlikely. Posters have expressed the following sentiments in the past few pages: a single throat slash will down Wolverine; streets like Captain America can KO Wolverine with any chance worth mentioning in a fight; Wolverine's healing factor is the same as high end durability.

It all points to a lack of knowledge about, or at least disdain for, Wolverine.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Seriously it's only happened half a dozen times in almost 40 years, and most of them have extenuating circumstances.

His power set is simply top tier in what he does. That is where the "best there is" saying comes from.

but Gamora still dominates either one solo or at the same time correct people?

Correct.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
but Gamora still dominates either one solo or at the same time correct people?

Gamora? We are talking about skilled fighters in this thread. Wolverine has already beaten Gamora three times.

@deadline

it's been stated on panel for decades that his healing factor makes him to put down and he recovers quickly.

Logan has shown and stated by narration from referencing Hulk, hits and slamming into the earth or lakes.

he states its no worse than hulk hit and has explained what that is like from the initial impact flash of black body turns to jelly everything heals immediately as the damage is done.

you have Logan smiling at Spidey full blows allowing him to wale on him, you got WWH saying how he cant kill him but at least screw him up and it took loads of blows and it didnt ko logan simply made his too punch drunk.. yeah the healing factor staves off knockout, allows him to recover near immediately and makes it difficult to ko him.

the few times he has been ko'ed in his series has context that certain individuals ignore in forums b/c they dont read the story about the gauntlet logan is forced to run to finally face the villain in order to tax him out.

it has been very rare for logan to for a street leveler to out right ko him with no outside factors

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Dude if you don't think Wolverine healing factor makes him harder to ko then you are an imbecile. Seriously. He has literally be kicked form New York to Georgia and wasn't koed!

Wasn't that Einnis were Wolverine got hit by the Hulk? I dunno maybe that wouldn't happen to Hercules because he has class 100 strength and durability.

I know class 100s have taken far worse but because they haven't been kicked from NYC to Georgia this means that its easier for them to get Koed. Brilliant logic.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

His durability is close to baseline human... and yet he can eat dozens of "car wreaking" haymakers from Spider-man with a smile on his face. What do you think allowed that to happen if not his healing factor? Do you really need proof that Wolverine is harder to ko? Then read a f@cking comic you mongoloid. Seriously, how do you think he has been eating punches from Hulk for 40 years? Magic?

Healing factor doesn't make him harder to ko? Seriously. Go get a CT scan because there is something wrong with you.

I see so Wolverine taking class 10 shots makes him harder to KO than somebody like Hercules. I'm the imbecile?

You are making highly illogical arguments and resorting to insults. 👇

Originally posted by StyleTime
streets like Captain America can KO Wolverine with any chance worth mentioning in a fight; Wolverine's healing factor is the same as high end durability.

It all points to a lack of knowledge about, or at least disdain for, Wolverine.

Wolverines HF is not the same as high end durability. The point is there is no proof that something that can KO a class 100 will have a harder time KOing Wolverine eg both Wolverine and Hercules have been Koed by massive blunt force trauma.

I don't think you read the thread properly.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Gamora? We are talking about skilled fighters in this thread. Wolverine has already beaten Gamora three times.

Gamora is an skilled fighter. You can argue she's not as skilled as other martial artists around, but implying she's unskilled is downright lying.

Just saying.

Originally posted by Deadline
Wasn't that Einnis were Wolverine got hit by the Hulk? I dunno maybe that wouldn't happen to Hercules because he has class 100 strength and durability.

I know class 100s have taken far worse but because they haven't been kicked from NYC to Georgia this means that its easier for them to get Koed. Brilliant logic.

I see so Wolverine taking class 10 shots makes him harder to KO than somebody like Hercules. I'm the imbecile?

You are making highly illogical arguments and resorting to insults. 👇

Wolverines HF is not the same as high end durability. The point is there is no proof that something that can KO a class 100 will have a harder time KOing Wolverine eg both Wolverine and Hercules have been Koed by massive blunt force trauma.

I don't think you read the thread properly.

Oh, you mean there is no proof that Wolverine's healing factor makes him harder to ko then then someone with high durability. I thought you meant it didn't make him harder to ko then a street. Sorry I insulted you, but what I thought you were saying was too stupid.lmao

Originally posted by Deadline
The point is there is no proof that something that can KO a class 100 will have a harder time KOing Wolverine

Except for all the times it's been harder for guys to KO logan than other class 100's.. 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
Except for all the times it's been harder for guys to KO logan than other class 100's.. 😕

haha, let me guess you only remember the times when this happened and forgot all the time when it hasn't? I'm sure if you dig through you will find some examples that doesn't conclusively prove that Wolverine is harder to KO.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Oh, you mean there is no proof that Wolverine's healing factor makes him harder to ko [b]then then someone with high durability. I thought you meant it didn't make him harder to ko then a street. Sorry I insulted you, but what I thought you were saying was too stupid.lmao [/B]

Yes thats what I'm saying. sneer

Originally posted by Deadline
[B]haha, let me guess you only remember the times when this happened and forgot all the time when it hasn't? I'm sure if you dig through you will find some examples that doesn't conclusively prove that Wolverine is harder to KO.


And let ME guess, you're not even REMEMBERING legitimate examples at the moment and just assuming the low ball for Wolverine instead amirite?! 😱
100%? Nah, but it suggests that he is. 😎

Logan constantly takes on 100 tonners without being KOed outweighs him being KOed.

Sounds like Dead is trolling.

Originally posted by jinzin
And let ME guess, you're not even REMEMBERING legitimate examples at the moment and just assuming the low ball for Wolverine instead amirite?! 😱
100%? Nah, but it suggests that he is. 😎

Some superior showings to class 100s = superior to class 100s when class 100s have some superior showings to Wolverine?

Deadline

answer to the herc regen.

Herc has taken full hydra rounds to the chest and kept fighting although enraged even though the rounds had hit him multiple times in the chest arms, legs.

now for wolvie and his healing factor making it difficult to knock him out, i have said it has been stated before and referenced certain moments where others including WWH, Wolvie has stated it maybe you can ignore that but Reed Richards himself has stated it himself when he spoke to ben when logan was already dazed and groggy and got ko'ed by Thing.

now continue to ignore the consistency and unlikeliness of it after certain amount of evidence and character history which either you are not aware of or are purposely ignoring starts to become trolling pick one.

Originally posted by King Castle
Deadline

answer to the herc regen.

Herc has taken full hydra rounds to the chest and kept fighting although enraged even though the rounds had hit him multiple times in the chest arms, legs.

now for his healing factor making it difficult to knock him out, i have said it has been stated before and referenced certain moments where others including WWH, Wolvie has stated it maybe you can ignore that but Reed Richards himself has stated it himself when he spoke to ben when logan was already dazed and groggy and got ko'ed by Thing.

now continue to ignore the consistency and unlikeliness of it after certain amount of evidence and character history which either you are not aware of or are purposely ignoring starts to become trolling pick one.

Go away man. 😬

Originally posted by Deadline
haha, let me guess you only remember the times when this happened and forgot all the time when it hasn't? I'm sure if you dig through you will find some examples that doesn't conclusively prove that Wolverine is harder to KO.

Yes thats what I'm saying. sneer

Well most of the time Wolverine throws down with a class 100 he doesn't get koed. We were saying the examples of him being koed by streets were few and far between, and the same is true for examples of him being koed by bricks (obviously more numerous than the street examples but still very few). Hulk has left Thor unconscious more times that he has Wolverine.

Anyway pressure points work by passing the inherent durability of the target. A pressure point on Hyde has the same effect it would have on a normal human. That's what makes them effective. Wolverine's doesn't have insane durability that needs to be by passed, he has insane regenerative abilities. Wolverine just heals from the nerve damage a pressure point delivers.

Originally posted by Bentley
Gamora is an skilled fighter. You can argue she's not as skilled as other martial artists around, but implying she's unskilled is downright lying.

Just saying.

gamora's body is just as enhansed as logan's:

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Well most of the time Wolverine throws down with a class 100 he doesn't get koed.

Thats the case for alot of class 100s.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hulk has left Thor unconscious more times that he has Wolverine.

How long were these fights? Some Wolverine Hulk fights weren't that long.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Anyway pressure points work by passing the inherent durability of the target. A pressure point on Hyde has the same effect it would have on a normal human. That's what makes them effective. Wolverine's doesn't have insane durability that needs to be by passed, he has insane regenerative abilities. Wolverine just heals from the nerve damage a pressure point delivers.

Professor Hulk has a high lvl HF and durability.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats the case for alot of class 100s.

Professor Hulk has a high lvl HF and durability.

what's the relevance to that statement. the Hulk regen also has certain weaknesses that arent shared by Wolvie.

somethings work on each other while others do not.

Originally posted by King Castle
what's the relevance to that statement. the Hulk regen also has certain weaknesses that arent shared by Wolvie.

somethings work on each other while others do not.

Your making shit up again. Trying to make some theory that somehow it will work on Hulk but shouldn't on Wolverine. Cut the BS.