Originally posted by King KAM
cap wasnt going to grab the sheild in time??? I mean he ALWAYS does in every other occasion, so why wouldnt he this time??? I say he was going to grab the shield, you say he wasnt, fact of the matter is it was inconclusive so we will never know.Damn right cap smashed his ass
Wolverine couldve dodge all day?? wolverine has never done a good job of dodging captain america. He was tired, he couldnt use his claws and was hurt, Cap couldve sliced his ass to pieces, but he didnt because Logan did what he said.
And as for him dodging cyclops, he was in a berserker rage, and cap still dropped him, he was healed and cap wasnt. So if cap can tag a berserker wolverine, with a punch, he can land one on a hurt one with a sword.
He woudn't have grabbed his shield because like i said earler he was over-powered and injured by wolverine's head-butt. And he was tired indeed but him inability to use his claws was temporary, cap injury was fatal. And as for him "dropping" wolverine:
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineorigins04page23ij9.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineorigins04page24pe3.jpg
Clearly, capt wouldn't have been able to punch him had wolverine not been blasted.
Originally posted by jinzinwhat issue was their first fight in???
it wasn't inconclusive.. he got jabbed in the neck by a needle.. if he was going to raise his shield in time that wouldn't have happened.. he would have been bale o defend himself against "the infamous needle attack" 😕how do you know cap could have?... hell, wolverine could have just ran for it... cap would have got that blood clot set in just running after the guy.
cap didn't drop him... cap got in his way for about 2 seconds before he fell to the floor.. and no wolverine wasn't healed.. he'd been cut by the muramasa, he STILL isn't healed from that, and he's compared what it feels like NOW (a long while since this fight took place) to being killed by carboniom
oh please... even cap statedat that moment that wolverine was zeroed in on hellion..
cap wouldnt have had to run after wolverine, the man was literally less than an inch away from him.
I know wolverine still hasnt healed from the cut and blah blah blah....origins sucks... it didnt use to, but it does now. Fact of the matter is he had been cut on his chest...while cap had a hematoma...that aboot sets the playing field even.
and your right wolverine didnt get dropped, and Cap said he was zeroed in on hellion, but he did swing at cap first, and cap did smack him with a cross, and then knock him back with the shield.
And if wolverines healing factor worked thaaaat fast...whyd it take him him so long to heal from the plane crash....i mean 3hours...thats a while, cap seems to just walk away from his.
Originally posted by jasonk3im pretty sure me and jinzin werent talking about that part.....
He woudn't have grabbed his shield because like i said earler he was over-powered and injured by wolverine's head-butt. And he was tired indeed but him inability to use his claws was temporary, cap injury was fatal. And as for him "dropping" wolverine:http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineorigins04page23ij9.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineorigins04page24pe3.jpgClearly, capt wouldn't have been able to punch him had wolverine not been blasted.
damnit jinzin call off your lackeys, they annoy me
Originally posted by jinzin
it wasn't inconclusive.. he got jabbed in the neck by a needle.. if he was going to raise his shield in time that wouldn't have happened.. he would have been bale o defend himself against "the infamous needle attack" 😕how do you know cap could have?... hell, wolverine could have just ran for it... cap would have got that blood clot set in just running after the guy.
cap didn't drop him... cap got in his way for about 2 seconds before he fell to the floor.. and no wolverine wasn't healed.. he'd been cut by the muramasa, he STILL isn't healed from that, and he's compared what it feels like NOW (a long while since this fight took place) to being killed by carboniom
oh please... even cap statedat that moment that wolverine was zeroed in on hellion..
Well im going to summarise it as this. In the second fight the only reason why Cap got head butted was because he was trying to reason with Wolverine.....in other words he was holding back.
In the third fight Cap won when he got hold of the sword. Yes he probably missed unpurpose because he didnt come there to **** him up he came there to hand him over . If cap was able to disable his claws if he hit him with the sword that would have done even more damage. If he came there to **** him up he would have continued on attacking. Also its better for Cap to have a conscious Wolverine, rather than an unconscious Wolverine who can be unpredictable and could wake up at any moment.
Even if he did miss and the fight continued cap would have lasted long enough to finish him off. It took cap stomping on Nuke and several punches to the back of the head before the clot came into effect, if cap was not distracted he probably would have been more efficient with teh sword and put him down.
As for Wolverine not sleeping and not being in his top form, this is a pile of ****. Even if Wolverine was in his top form there is nothing to say that Cap would have done anything different. I think there reflexes are quite similar but I would say cap is slightly faster and he always seems to do better against Spiderman than he does.
Cap is defintely smarter. I know Wolverine is not dumb but cap is defintely a better startegist and uses his brains more than Wolverine. All thing being equal Wolverine would probably not have been the one to trick cap but the other way round. If super heroes get togther and Cap and Wolverine are there Cap will be the one leading the heroes. In Secret Wars both the Xmen and the other heroes followed Caps order. I cant see Wolverine making and upgraded Spiderman look stupid or gettign out a device which is supposed to hold shapeshifters.
There is also no reason why Cap cant hurt Wolverine if he can **** up 75 and 50 toners Wolverine can be hurt. According to Shield Cap is able to take out Luke Cage, Luke Cage can lift 25 tons and has titanuim hard skin. Wolverine may have adamantuim bones but his flesh and organs are not as tough as titanuim. The problem is with Wolverine is he is very inconsistent one day he can take serious injury the next day he cant. One day hes fast the next day hes slow. One day hes dumb the next day he smart. At any rate Wolverine has been seen to be hurt from injuries that Cap can inflict, the problem is the keep ****ing retconing your character. Wolverine is very inconsistent and badly written so sometimes its hard to figure things out.
the problem is also that whenever two heroes fight each other there is usually some excuse as to why one hero fights another. Nobody can get a straight win.
Originally posted by King KAM
jinzin can you save me all of the NOOOB posting and simply post all your counter arguments at once?reading it line after line is annoying as hell. Im ALSO a college educated student, i can understand what counter arguments go where
oooooorrr I COULD keep picking apart your posts point for point like I've been doing, because, well gosh.... that's just how I like to debate. 😉
Originally posted by King KAM
As for me mistaking a car for a jeep, sue me.
And i have no recelection of their first fight, would u like to tell me the exact issue so i can DL and see how it went?
It wasn't much, only 2 or 3 panals worth of aggression. But it goes down in captain america annual 8...
where do you DL books from?
Originally posted by King KAM
Also Cap wasnt trying to kill wolverine with that swing, or else why didnt he ever swing again?
simple.. wolverine stopped fighting...
Originally posted by King KAM
also, the last time wolverine was burned to a skeleton...he didnt regenerate back in 3 minutes...
actually once the regeneration started.. he did... it just took a while for wolverine's soul to kickstart his body, or whatever it does...
he reproduced the feat in venom run as well.
Originally posted by King KAM
SECOND fight- inconclusive
cap ended up unconcious... it doesn't seem THAT inconclusive to me.. 😬
Originally posted by King KAM
Third fight-Cap pwned him
>>>>>>>
Originally posted by jinzin
that wasn't a fight, that was cap blasting wolverine with a sneak attack after wolverine survived an exploding collision with the blackbird, and being put through the ringer by half the x-roster...
Originally posted by King KAM
fourth fight-Wolverine was escorted.
after woverine's hf was run into the ground during origins and endings, after wolverine already fought nuke, after using multiple sneak attacks, and after getting ahold of a plot device he'd NEVER otherwise have...
but before he got outright RAILED by wolverine. 😐
Originally posted by King KAM
cap wouldnt have had to run after wolverine, the man was literally less than an inch away from him.
an inch in on the printed page...
they were standing about several feet away from eachother. wolverine's legs weren't hurt there's nothing preventing him from pulling one of his speedfeat stunts in that regard..
Originally posted by King KAM
I know wolverine still hasnt healed from the cut and blah blah blah....origins sucks... it didnt use to, but it does now. Fact of the matter is he had been cut on his chest...while cap had a hematoma...that aboot sets the playing field even.
Originally posted by King KAM
and your right wolverine didnt get dropped, and Cap said he was zeroed in on hellion, but he did swing at cap first, and cap did smack him with a cross, and then knock him back with the shield.
I have no problems with that, cause that's what happened.. but given the fact that he was zeroed in on hellion it takes away from your theory that cap could strike logan whenever he wanted.
Originally posted by King KAMcause his body was incinerated when it blew up....
And if wolverines healing factor worked thaaaat fast...whyd it take him him so long to heal from the plane crash....i mean 3hours...thats a while, cap seems to just walk away from his.
cap's never walked away from having his body incinerated.. 🤨
Now it's your turn....
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well im going to summarise it as this. In the second fight the only reason why Cap got head butted was because he was trying to reason with Wolverine.....in other words he was holding back.
he was reasoing with wolverine because his blows weren't doing anything... aside from that he was in a precarious position anyways... and I think that's weak reasoning he's had full fledged conversations while dodging bullet fire before.. but he's too distracted to keep focused on the man he's engaged with? weak reasoning.
Originally posted by Alfheim
In the third fight Cap won when he got hold of the sword. Yes he probably missed unpurpose because
he didnt' win.. wolverine didn't want to hurt cap.. hell he even states so on panal... if the fight had continued cap would go down to the clot..
as for cap missing: speculation.
Originally posted by Alfheim
he didnt come there to **** him up he came there to hand him over
cap kinda goes against that theory based on the "you've had this coming for a long time"
and the crushing of wolverine's tendons.. etc.
Originally posted by Alfheim
If cap was able to disable his claws if he hit him with the sword that would have done even more damage. If he came there to **** him up he would have continued on attacking. Also its better for Cap to have a conscious Wolverine, rather than an unconscious Wolverine who can be unpredictable and could wake up at any moment.
if he kept attacking wolverine could have dodged... ran for it... or simply engaged.. if cap struck him with the sword.. wolverine would have went into a berserker rage ... like what happened.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Even if he did miss and the fight continued cap would have lasted long enough to finish him off. It took cap stomping on Nuke and several punches to the back of the head before the clot came into effect, if cap was not distracted he probably would have been more efficient with teh sword and put him down.
I'm sorry but if you think kicking a robot and then getting pounded on was okay for putting cap out of comission then I can't see how the hell you think he was ready to continue to actually fight there... 😕
Originally posted by Alfheim
As for Wolverine not sleeping and not being in his top form, this is a pile of ****.
it's not a pile of shit.. it's what happened... I don't care that you don't like it, but you can't ignore it...
Originally posted by Alfheim
Even if Wolverine was in his top form there is nothing to say that Cap would have done anything different. I think there reflexes are quite similar but I would say cap is slightly faster and he always seems to do better against Spiderman than he does.
interesting idea... okay let's say wolverine WAS in tip top shape, and cap DIDN'T get a sneak attack to knock the muramasa to the ground. Infact let's just take the muramasa out all together...
then cap would have lost his sheild to disable wolverine's claws.. wolverine would have scored the bloodclot, wolverine would have healed in 20 seconds (I'm being VERY generous to cap here) and THEN he would have handed cap his ass anyway....
and No he doesn't do better against spiderman than wolverine...
wolverine's knocked spiderman out TWICE know, and beat him without even really trying on the rooftop.. the only time's spiderman's had an advantage over logan was one when logan didn't know what he was up against (important because cap has studied spiderman to know how to fight him), and two when he was holding back completely.
but you want to talk about who does better against who...
cap's had to be saved by logan from no more than a couple dozen hand ninjas....TWICE....
wolverine... yeah he kills them in the thousands.
Originally posted by Alfheimwhile I agree cap's the better strategist...
Cap is defintely smarter. I know Wolverine is not dumb but cap is defintely a better startegist and uses his brains more than Wolverine. All thing being equal Wolverine would probably not have been the one to trick cap but the other way round. If super heroes get togther and Cap and Wolverine are there Cap will be the one leading the heroes. In Secret Wars both the Xmen and the other heroes followed Caps order. I cant see Wolverine making and upgraded Spiderman look stupid or gettign out a device which is supposed to hold shapeshifters.
but as far as secret wars and secret war go, yeah cap's the greatest leader there is in marvel... wolverine doesn't lead.
Originally posted by Alfheim
There is also no reason why Cap cant hurt Wolverine if he can **** up 75 and 50 toners Wolverine can be hurt. According to Shield Cap is able to take out Luke Cage, Luke Cage can lift 25 tons and has titanuim hard skin. Wolverine may have adamantuim bones but his flesh and organs are not as tough as titanuim.
who said cap couldn't hurt wolverine?
the point is that against a wolverine with a fully functioning healing factor that's operating at peak effeciency via forum rules, there's nothing cap could do to logan that wouldn't get healed near instantly...
Originally posted by Alfheim
The problem is with Wolverine is he is very inconsistent one day he can take serious injury the next day he cant. One day hes fast the next day hes slow. One day hes dumb the next day he smart. At any rate Wolverine has been seen to be hurt from injuries that Cap can inflict,
like what?
and again you have to keep in mind that on these foums wolverine's powers are operating at the best of their abilities.. not what you prefer them to be.
Originally posted by jinzinthanks...and same place everyone else does.
It wasn't much, only 2 or 3 panals worth of aggression. But it goes down in captain america annual 8...where do you DL books from?
simple.. wolverine stopped fighting...
actually once the regeneration started.. he did... it just took a while for wolverine's soul to kickstart his body, or whatever it does...
he reproduced the feat in venom run as well.
cap ended up unconcious... it doesn't seem THAT inconclusive to me.. 😬
>>>>>>>
after woverine's hf was run into the ground during origins and endings, after wolverine already fought nuke, after using multiple sneak attacks, and after getting ahold of a plot device he'd NEVER otherwise have...
but before he got outright RAILED by wolverine. 😐
Wolverine stopped fighting because Cap said he wasnt there to kill him, Caps not gonna hit a man who is following orders
I dunno...I mean i read it and it says he was just laying there for a while waiting, he also said that the nervous system takes the longest time. It never stated 3 minutes, If a plane crash took 3 hours, why wouldnt a nuclear blast?
Yes Cap ended up unconcious from, a weapon shot at him by someone who interfered in the fight not wolverine.
When I say wolverine was an inch away I mean when they started to walk, if Cap was really there to try and kill him he couldve impaled him from behind.
I was referring to the wrist injuries not the cut from the Muramasa
It does prove he could hit wolverine considering as much as wolverine was "zeroed in" on Hellion he still attacked cap first, a hurt cap defended and landed two blows
And Wolverine wasnt incenerated...or never stated he was, I guess Cap just takes his plane crashes better...
And for speed feets....Cap has just as impressive ones so we wont go there.
Originally posted by jinzin
Now it's your turn....
Bring it.
Originally posted by jinzin
he was reasoing with wolverine because his blows weren't doing anything... aside from that he was in a precarious position anyways... and I think that's weak reasoning he's had full fledged conversations while dodging bullet fire before.. but he's too distracted to keep focused on the man he's engaged with? weak reasoning.
That dont change a damn thing. Look at what happened Caps head was really close to Wolverines head, if he hadnt tried to reason with Wolverine that would not have happened. So your trying to tell me its a suprise that Wolverine head buttted him , something which would not have happened if he was not in that position.
Looking at Cap skills and feats theres is actually nothing to say that Cap cant knock out Wolverine.
Originally posted by jinzin
he didnt' win.. wolverine didn't want to hurt cap.. hell he even states so on panal... if the fight had continued cap would go down to the clot..
as for cap missing: speculation.
Well obvoulsy he wanted to hurt cap but he didnt want to kill him. Let me break it down to for you. If your purpose is to **** somebody up do you stop because the other person has stopped fighting? No you beat the guy up until hes finished. Cap stopped because eventhough he was pissed off his objective was to hand him in not to mess him up. So basically both of them were holding back even if cap was more pissed off.
Cap was able to hurt Wolverine without the sword. With a sword in his hand and a blood clot in his leg he would he would fought strategically, and theres is nothing in Wolverine showings to show that he would be able to dodge long enough with nothing to shield him since his claws were disabled. Cap would also aim for parts of his body like pressure points that would incapaciatate him or slow him down, something similar as to what he did to an upgraded Spiderman when he made his legs go numb.
Stamping at full force on a robots head takes alot of effort AND he got punched in the back of the head several times at full force with adamantuim fists. Cap defintely would not have got punched like that if he was not distracted. Getting punched to the ground probably gets your heart racing more than it does punching somebody, and it takes less effort to damage with a sword than it does with your fists.
Originally posted by jinzin
cap kinda goes against that theory based on the "you've had this coming for a long time"and the crushing of wolverine's tendons.. etc.
Cmon man use some common sense. When I say he wasnt there to **** him up, I mean he was there to bring him in, he was pissed off but that didnt stop him from doing his job. He had to stop him from using his claws and beat him up a bit in order to get him to come with him, but if his objective was to beat him up he would not have stopped fighting until he was unconscious.
Originally posted by jinzin
if he kept attacking wolverine could have dodged... ran for it... or simply engaged.. if cap struck him with the sword.. wolverine would have went into a berserker rage ... like what happened.
No he would not have dodged. Look how many times Wolverine got connected by Cap before Cap got the sword. Now how is he going to defend himself now that he doesnt have the claws to block the sword?
Originally posted by jinzin
I'm sorry but if you think kicking a robot and then getting pounded on was okay for putting cap out of comission then I can't see how the hell you think he was ready to continue to actually fight there... 😕
Well for starter pounding down on somebody heads takes alot of effort, it takes less effort with a sword because you are using less force. Secondly he got jumped and got pounded several time in the head with adamantuim fists. That would not have happened if he was not distracted. If Cap can use his bare hands to take out Wolverine claws what do you think hes going to do with a sword? The fight would not have gone on for much longer and Cap would have not got pounded in the head. Wolverine would not have been able to get far at all.
Originally posted by jinzin
interesting idea... okay let's say wolverine WAS in tip top shape, and cap DIDN'T get a sneak attack to knock the muramasa to the ground. Infact let's just take the muramasa out all together...
then cap would have lost his sheild to disable wolverine's claws.. wolverine would have scored the bloodclot, wolverine would have healed in 20 seconds (I'm being VERY generous to cap here) and THEN he would have handed cap his ass anyway....
Hes an expert startegist he would have used different tactics. If he knock out the Wrecker he can knock out Wolverine. Alot can happen in 20 seconds, especially for somebody who can see bullets (im talking about cap). OH yeah did you see what The Wrecker did to Wolverine?
Originally posted by jinzin
and No he doesn't do better against spiderman than wolverine...wolverine's knocked spiderman out TWICE know, and beat him without even really trying on the rooftop.. the only time's spiderman's had an advantage over logan was one when logan didn't know what he was up against (important because cap has studied spiderman to know how to fight him), and two when he was holding back completely.
Scans.
Originally posted by jinzin
but you want to talk about who does better against who...cap's had to be saved by logan from no more than a couple dozen hand ninjas....TWICE....
Yeah I read that, that was a pile of ****. It was in an Xmen comic and they made Cap look like a total fool. So let me get this straight right? DD beats up hand ninjas and Cap has beaten DD's ass before Shield thinks that Cap can beat DDs ass, but Cap cant beat up hand ninjas. PIS.
Originally posted by jinzin
while I agree cap's the better strategist...
I'm not really TOO sure what the hell you're even talking about at this point..but as far as secret wars and secret war go, yeah cap's the greatest leader there is in marvel... wolverine doesn't lead.
Secret Wars is when both the heroes and villains were taken to a planet to fight each other. Saying Wolverine doesnt lead is a cop out. If its a matter of life and death and Wolverine was the best strategist you can beat your bottom dollar Wolverine would be leading. Cap lead the Xmen and all the other heroes. Damn even in House of M people were talking about Cap not Wolverine.
Furthermore Bruce Lee said that when you have two fighters that are equalled matched the one with the best strategy would win. Cap is the better strategist.
Originally posted by jinzin
who said cap couldn't hurt wolverine?the point is that against a wolverine with a fully functioning healing factor that's operating at peak effeciency via forum rules, there's nothing cap could do to logan that wouldn't get healed near instantly...
like what?
and again you have to keep in mind that on these foums wolverine's powers are operating at the best of their abilities.. not what you prefer them to be.
WEll you said that Cap could disable Wolverines claws for 20 seconds if it was working properly. Logic means he can probably knock him out for 20 sceonds. Under forum rules thats a win, Cap can do alot in 20 seconds. Even if Cap could knock him out for several seconds he could probably **** him up some more to keep him down.
Jinzin, sorry my friend, but your response to my initial post has got me completely baffled. I still cannot believe the utter disdain you have for an appropriate interpretation of the 'Origins' fight.
1) Wolverine still has a healing ability. Slashed across the chest and he still could get up a second later. Not only that, but he managed to take on Cyclops and the Hellion. You make it sound like his healing ability is non-existent and Wolverine was fighting with one arm behind his back. Your jaded interpretation borders on the ridiculous. Wolverine was not "severely, omgwtfbbq it's so unfair" handicapped.
You also make it sound like Wolverine just marathon-swam around the world and that Cap fighting him after Wolverine fought Nuke was more "severe omgwtfbbq unfairness." Do you even have 'Origins?' For goodness sake, Nuke got three hits on Wolverine the entire fight. Three. He was utterly schooled with ease and little effort by Wolverine. Then you make it sound like Cap bushwhacked the hell out of Wolverine which enduces more "omgwtfbbqsauce cheating" characterizations from you. Cap tossed his shield at Wolverine's hand to prevent Logan from killing Nuke. That's it. He didn't say... come in from behind and hit him with adamantium lined knuckles repeatedly in the back of the head. You know... that sounds familiar...
2) You and others consistently characterize Cap as having "lost" his main weapon. He didn't. He sacrificed it to get a solid grip on Wolverine's arms to take away his main weapons, his claws. Now if that isn't strategy and a damn good trade in Cap's favor I don't know what is. Face it. You make it sound like Wolverine took his shield away. Read the captions. Even Wolvie recognizes he was completely set up by the shield toss and lost his claws as a result.
3) Wolverine utterly cheapshotted the crap out of Cap when Nuke distracted Cap the second time. He hit him three times from behind when Cap wasn't looking. Twice in the head. You argue with the others like you understand fighting. Have you ever been punched in the back of the head? Let me tell you something, I don't care who it is, one punch to the back of the head and that's it, you get stars. I've been in serious fights before. And let me tell you, I can be a scrapper... but one time I got punched in the back of the head and that was it. One time. It was over. There's nothing like it. If you've ever been punched or hit in the back of the head, you'd know it too. Cap got hit in the back of the head with adamantium knuckles twice. I can't believe he wasn't utterly knocked out.
4) Cap ended the fight with a swing of the blade and his forced march. There is no other interpretation. Wolverine couldn't dodge Cap's fists, what makes you think he could dodge sword swings? He certainly didn't dodge it when he tried to tackle Cap and got slashed across the chest the first time Cap got distracted. Jeez. Are you that blind? "Omgwtfbbq, Wolvie would dodge the Muramasa blade!" WTF. He got hit by it! You don't have to "imagine" what might happen in a fanfic and wonder if Wolvie could have beaten Cap w/ sword. He tried too! He got cut for crying out loud! It's there in the pages! Is your copy of 'Origins' censored or something?!
5) It's fair to say that once Cap got the Muramasa blade, Wolverine was in the sh1thole. But you can hardly characterize it as unfair cheating on Cap's behalf. Just consider the situation. Man w/ sword vs. man w/o sword. Yeah... that sword's an advantage any way you slice it. That Cap was able to retrieve the sword from Logan and then you holding it against him is ludicrous. It's as retarded as if in another fight, Wolvie managed to get Cap's shield from him and knocked him out with it and Cap fans started yelling, "NO! That doesn't count! It's not fair that Wolvie got to use Cap's shield! Logan's disqualified!"
I have no wish to dissect your entire posts, but these are the main points in which your interpretation is just wrong, wrong wrong. And the rest of you "Wolvie won the 'Origins' fight" supporters also seesaw back and forth between your suppositions. At one point, you exclaim "Wolvie is exhausted and his healing ability is so overtaxed!" Several points later, you assert that "Wolvie would have healed in seconds if the fight went on so Cap would have lost eventually anyway!" Get your stories straight. You can't have your pie and eat it too.
P.S. I second King Kam's suggestion, jinzin. It's fine if you want to quote us in your retorts, but you don't have to quote a two paragraph argument, cut up the sentences in half and reply it piecemeal in 13 different responses. It doesn't help. All it does is give the illusion that you tackled every point we made... when in reality, all you're doing is skipping over sentences selectively and unnecessarily elongating the size of your post with utter blank space.
Oh, you boys came to play huh?
good I like it this way....
Originally posted by King KAM
thanks...and same place everyone else does.
okay... which is?
Originally posted by King KAM
Wolverine stopped fighting because Cap said he wasnt there to kill him, Caps not gonna hit a man who is following orders
No wolverine stopped fighting cap cause one, he didn't want to hurt cap further. He thought the wound would be enough...
And two, upon cap picking up the sword wolverine didn't continue to fight, because he was being cautious and a (bit surprised too I imagine). The last time anyone besides murumasa, silver samurai or himself wielded a murumasa blade, it consumed them and possessed them turning them into bloodthirsty demon warriors... why do you think wolverine told cap to put the sword down?...
"you don't know..."
Originally posted by King KAM
I dunno...I mean i read it and it says he was just laying there for a while waiting, he also said that the nervous system takes the longest time. It never stated 3 minutes, If a plane crash took 3 hours, why wouldnt a nuclear blast?
"my healing factor.... works faster when it has to."
he says that it takes the longest time, it's relative to how fast he's healing...
point is, he's still bones when nitro stands up, by the time he's done talking on the phone, wolverine's healed.
Originally posted by King KAM
Yes Cap ended up unconscious from, a weapon shot at him by someone who interfered in the fight not wolverine.
the point: moonhunter walked right up to him and injected him with a needle, had the fight persisted cap would've been dead instead o' unconscious.
Originally posted by King KAM
When I say wolverine was an inch away I mean when they started to walk, if Cap was really there to try and kill him he couldve impaled him from behind.
why would you be talking about AFTER the fact?
we're still on the fight itself... 🙄
we know cap wasn't there to kill logan, no one said he was... but cap was there to put logan down using any means he deemed necessary...
Originally posted by King KAM
I was referring to the wrist injuries not the cut from the Muramasa.
all you said was "he was healed and cap wasn't and cap still dropped him".. implying that wolverine had healed from what he endured earlier as a whole.. when he had not..
Originally posted by King KAM
It does prove he could hit wolverine considering as much as wolverine was "zeroed in" on Hellion he still attacked cap first, a hurt cap defended and landed two blows
as hellion was wolverine's "primary target" I don't think there's much to say wolverine couldn't otherwise dodge those blows if he deemed fit to do so... he can shrug of cap's punches.. when summers tried to blast him he dodged.. simple as.
Originally posted by King KAMconsidering that the plane exploded, i figured it was implied.
And Wolverine wasnt incenerated...or never stated he was, I guess Cap just takes his plane crashes better...
Originally posted by King KAMnot with blood clots in his system, and that's what they'd have to have to matter here.
And for speed feets....Cap has just as impressive ones so we wont go there.
