One Piece

The whole "you'd just be complaining if he did x" argument kinda falls flat since I knew from the beginning that there would only be one winner and when you see Bartolomeo, with his design and apparent reputation, it was almost certainly going to be him to win. Bellamy was mostly there to be a psuedo-worf. The problem was he built up Bellamy, a character that the audience naturally has a lot more investment in because he is familiar to us, and gave him less panel time than characters who are little more than elite mooks. Ricky is almost certainly Kyros so I'm fine with that but Bluegilly? The guy is a boring, campy version of Sanji.

What I wanted, and I think what a lot of people wanted, was to see Bellamy put up a decent effort against Bartolomeo before losing. I honestly did not care about Elizabello II or those other two guys(Jeet and something). The fact that the former has a nice punch is nothing to me because I could care less what some guy from the Produce can do. It existed solely to end the round in a bang.

I wonder how Bartolomeo would fare against Law?

Methinks Law could modify his barrier as long as he is within the range of Law's power.

You'd need some HUGE amounts of Haki to break through that barrier if Fishman Karate can't cut it.

Everything will be clear when Bluegilly gets its own spin-off.

Burgess better beat the ****ing shit out of Bart, is all I am saying.

Two week hiatus to recover from tonsillitis.

Dwarves??? Or just Robin being random?

There is so much going on in this arc....

Spoiler:
Oh wow!

Law is Fawked with a Capital F!

Still I guess he didn't see this coming lol.

This made me lol

This was the best chapter in a long long time. I'm actually excited to read One Piece again. :'😉

Wasn't it said at the start of the arc that the toy people marry human women? Theres even a interspecies couple wheeling a baby-buggy down the street in the intro pages (chapter 701). Not sure what Sawyers thinking. Chainmail bikini being into a toy soldier doesn't seem to be implausible in this place.

YouTube video

F*ck y'all, Luffys the best of the Big 3 no doubt. estahuh

Luffy has the most Hell yes moments of the three main protagonists. That really isn't something that can be questioned.

My problem is him never facing many morale dilemmas, resulting in some boring moments that could be so much more.

But that video does illustrate that One Piece has far and away the strongest "main supporting cast" by my definition anyway.

Oh yeah and favorite Straw Hat everybody? o:

He faces moral dilemma's, its just that he's usually such a pure-hearted character that he barely has to think about them. Its one of the sources for his many Hell Yeah moments. Like when he burns the WG flag. C*ntface spends loads of time pointing out how important the flag is and how they can't cross the WG to rescue Robin without unleashing a holy shitstorm upon themselves. You know Luffy straight up don't give a shit and doesn't even need to think about it as an actual dilemma, yet its still a fistpumping moment when he tells Sogeking to burn it. Or when Hancock tries to reveal his true nature by putting him in a moral quandry and he reacts completely selflessly instantly. Or when he punches the Celestial Dragon. Or any of the other times when he's done the heroic, moral thing without a second thought. Sure you can call him a weak character for not agonizing over these decisions, but imo its a paradox to call a character weak for being too much of a good person.

This doesn't make him weak imo. It just changes how we're meant to percieve the character. To use a out of nowhere metaphor think of it as the difference between DC and Marvel heroes. Marvel heroes are people we relate to, they have real problems and are generally more flawed. DC characters on the other hand are people we aspire to. They're perfect, moral paragons of justice. Some people like myself enjoy frank, unironic heroism, and thats the appeal of Luffy to me. Its not about seeing him struggle with the ramifications if his actions to me, that isn't what One Piece is about. Its about seeing Luffy push his righteous fist halfway through a skidmark of human trashes face.

Its just another reason why One Piece ranks much higher than the other two in my estimation. I'm a sucker for those stories, and One Piece is a fantastic ballsdeep example of heroic adventure. My opinion may be my own, but in my estimation Luffy has more heroism in him than Naruto and Ichigo combined.

Indeed, mostly because Nakama is one of the major focuses of the series.

Luffy. Boring, I know.

So....Luffy is pretty much the Superman of the Shonen manga series now?

I think Aura asked this before but my favorite is between Zoro and Robin...leaning towards Robin.

Yeah, pretty much. Although really Luffy was based off of Goku and as far as I can tell Goku was basically the same way.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He faces moral dilemma's, its just that he's usually such a pure-hearted character that he barely has to think about them. Its one of the sources for his many Hell Yeah moments. Like when he burns the WG flag. C*ntface spends loads of time pointing out how important the flag is and how they can't cross the WG to rescue Robin without unleashing a holy shitstorm upon themselves. You know Luffy straight up don't give a shit and doesn't even need to think about it as an actual dilemma, yet its still a fistpumping moment when he tells Sogeking to burn it. Or when Hancock tries to reveal his true nature by putting him in a moral quandry and he reacts completely selflessly instantly. Or when he punches the Celestial Dragon. Or any of the other times when he's done the heroic, moral thing without a second thought. Sure you can call him a weak character for not agonizing over these decisions, but imo its a paradox to call a character weak for being [b]too much of a good person.

This doesn't make him weak imo. It just changes how we're meant to percieve the character. To use a out of nowhere metaphor think of it as the difference between DC and Marvel heroes. Marvel heroes are people we relate to, they have real problems and are generally more flawed. DC characters on the other hand are people we aspire to. They're perfect, moral paragons of justice. Some people like myself enjoy frank, unironic heroism, and thats the appeal of Luffy to me. Its not about seeing him struggle with the ramifications if his actions to me, that isn't what One Piece is about. Its about seeing Luffy push his righteous fist halfway through a skidmark of human trashes face.

Its just another reason why One Piece ranks much higher than the other two in my estimation. I'm a sucker for those stories, and One Piece is a fantastic ballsdeep example of heroic adventure. My opinion may be my own, but in my estimation Luffy has more heroism in him than Naruto and Ichigo combined.

Indeed, mostly because Nakama is one of the major focuses of the series.

Luffy. Boring, I know. [/B]

I'm not calling him "weak" but rather boring. He is always in the right and while many of those moments are awesome they become..well stale after a while. Luffy just beat the crap out of a complete monster like Caesar Clown but I honestly do not get the feeling of Hell Yes that I got from, say, his entire fight with Arlong.

But maybe I wouldn't care so much if Luffy hadn't insisted that he wasn't a hero.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So....Luffy is pretty much the Superman of the Shonen manga series now?

I think Aura asked this before but my favorite is between Zoro and Robin...leaning towards Robin.

Well no that would obviously be Goku lol.

And I would disagree with Neph that Goku and Luffy are "identical" considering some factors simply make them different. Hashirama is probably the closest character to Goku really. As an adult anyway. As a kid yeah Luffy is the closest but more ambitious than Goku by leagues.

I didn't say 'identical.'

Originally posted by AuraAngel
I'm not calling him "weak" but rather boring. He is always in the right and while many of those moments are awesome they become..well stale after a while. Luffy just beat the crap out of a complete monster like Caesar Clown but I honestly do not get the feeling of Hell Yes that I got from, say, his entire fight with Arlong.

But maybe I wouldn't care so much if Luffy hadn't insisted that he wasn't a hero.

That's most likely because of the difference between reading the story serialised and week to week imo.

Luffy goes out of his way and endures extreme hardship to help innumerable people and save entire civilisations literally on a weekly basis. He's only kidding himself on that one. And then only because of his moronic ideas about what a pirate is.

Luffy is more of an "Explorer" than a pirate IMO. I mean this is a series about pirate but so far Nami is the only one that seems to do anything resembling that.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
My problem is him never facing many morale dilemmas, resulting in some boring moments that could be so much more.

Luffy does face dilemmas, but his motto is to remain free and ride the wind, this means that if you throw him into a situation that seems closed with only two possible options he will always choose the impossible one. Litteraly. If Luffy gets told that there is an island in the sky, he'll go because it is impossible, that's exactly the kind of mesure of his freedom.

I can certainly see the parallel with Superman, because Superman always "finds a way", he struggles to take the hardest path and succeeds because we shouldn't settle with sh_tty half mesures. He's an inspiration.

Arguably Luffy is also an inspiration, but mostly for his crew.