One Piece

Barring Usopp, each of the crew members are capable of taking down fodder armies by themeselves in their own unique way...

Just because Robin can do it easier does not automatically mean that she is in Sanji's league at all. Nami's climatact if used correctly is far more destructive than either Zoro or Sanji's attacks, but it doesn't mean that she's in their league...

There is a reason why most fans dub Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji as the monster trio of the crew, it is because their insane strength is on whole plateau compared to the rest...

also, Robin's bounty has more to do about her past, rather than the threat she poses...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU

Just because Robin can do it easier does not automatically mean that she is in Sanji's league at all.

But she's also very powerful in one-on-one combat, she can roll even strong opponents, as well as being useful against big foes like Oars and Kuma on a team.

Nami's climatact if used correctly is far more destructive than either Zoro or Sanji's attacks, but it doesn't mean that she's in their league...

Because her big attacks do take so long to set up, and Nami's weak in other areas like her basic attack. Robin's got strong big attacks (that can also be used repeatedly) as well as strong basic attacks, and is just overall a lot more powerful than Nami.

There is a reason why most fans dub Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji as the monster trio of the crew, it is because their insane strength is on whole plateau compared to the rest...

They originally got that title before Robin joined mind you, I think Usopp dubbed them that. But note how when they went to Skypeia, 4 members of the crew were in the "You're not allowed to call for help from the sky knight!" pile, and Robin was one of them, while Chopper was still clearly in the "You can use the whistle."

If you look at how they act, the crew clearly rates Robin's strength far higher than Chopper's. Also in fights, Usopp, Nami, and Chopper follow the "I must think my way around this problem!" mold to beat strong foes, while Robin follows the "As soon as I get serious, you better be obscenely powerful or you're just finish," mold in all of her one-on-one fights so far.

also, Robin's bounty has more to do about her past, rather than the threat she poses...

Yea, which is why I didn't bring up the bounty. She's still really strong and nowadays could likely get a bounty in that area on shear power.

You also have to consider that during the skypeia arc, Franky and Brooke have yet to join the crew and that Nami's climatact has yet to be modified, also, even with the present crew members, the original monster trio have remained as is...

And it's a bit vague to regard a certain crewmember's strength basing on how they act since most of the males in the crew serve as comedians with unique quirks whereas Oda has depicted Robin as the unflappable type, unperturbed by the silliness that surrounds her...

Robin is indeed strong, just not on the level of the monster trio. As I said before, I place Brooke above Robin for reason already stated but even I don't think the fourth most powerful strawhat(IMO) comes close to that of the three...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
You also have to consider that during the skypeia arc, Franky and Brooke have yet to join the crew and that Nami's climatact has yet to be modified,

This is true, though I'll point out Robin could easily beat both Nami and Usopp at the same time even now while barely trying.

even with the present crew members, the original monster trio have remained as is...

So has Robin, she's gained moves like the combined-arms (she only first showed that around Thriller Bark, so about when the others got their upgrades) and wings and has kept up.

She's still one of the top four no question. She's got speed/cheapness over Franky, and a lot of power (and still cheapness) over Brook.

And it's a bit vague to regard a certain crewmember's strength basing on how they act since most of the males in the crew serve as comedians with unique quirks whereas Oda has depicted Robin as the unflappable type, unperturbed by the silliness that surrounds her...

But I'm not just talking about Robin's own attitude, Nami was the one making the call and did so on pure strength grounds.

Yea, Nami might have included Franky or Brook too, but she regards Robin as someone who absolutely shouldn't need to blow the whistle, while Chopper definitely can.

It's not just that Robin wasn't afraid, it's that not a single crew member was at all worried about Robin walking around in the dangerous area on her own, and not only weren't they worried, but she lived up to that, beating a very strong warrior on her own even with handicap.

Robin is indeed strong, just not on the level of the monster trio.

And I disagree, between the pure cheapness of her attacks combined with high power and it's disruptive nature, I say she's on the same level as Sanji.

Heck, if you put Nami, Usopp, and Brook on the same battlefield as the Luffy/Usopp fight, she'd beat all three at once.

As I said before, I place Brooke above Robin for reason already stated but even I don't think the fourth most powerful strawhat(IMO) comes close to that of the three...

While to me, Robin's power and versatility (and once again, just the difficult-to-deal-with nature of having arms appear *on* a fighter) does put her in the 3-4 slot with Sanji. Franky with all his cola moves and the Coup De Vent is a 5, his main issue being speed or he'd be up there too. Brook, he is to speed as Franky is to power, but he's less versatile and is IMO slightly behind.

Look, if you think Robin is the fourth strongest member, your entitled with your opinion, showings have been very ambiguous in that regard.

She isn't better than Sanji though, she's just too slow, takes too little punishment, is unable to deal huge amounts of damage (as required to break Tenkai), and has no feats under her belt that match the greatness achieved by Sanji over the series.

I'm just trying to show you the error of your ways, respect Sanji the meanest cook evar 😉

Originally posted by Bentley
Look, if you think Robin is the fourth strongest member, your entitled with your opinion, showings have been very ambiguous in that regard.

Yea, her strength hasn't been too highlighted, but even what she's demonstrated puts her at fairly high, more than she's often given credit for.

She isn't better than Sanji though, she's just too slow, takes too little punishment, is unable to deal huge amounts of damage (as required to break Tenkai),

Her arms appear on the target instantly, she can block pretty well with limb-shields (though admittedly it's her weakest area. Working at range does lessen it a lot and she's not the most fragile of the crew, but yea), and she can deal huge amounts of damage by piling on enough limbs, the giant ones made of a hundred arms are a hundred times as strong and could smash most tenkai users (or the 80-arm move she used against the pacifista).

Even stuff like a thirty-arm clutch could restrain and hurt most CP9 members (plus she can keep the pressure on until the tenkai drops, only Jyabura can tenkai and move at the same time).

Also, the biggest advantage of her fighting style is it makes it hard for the opponent to fight properly. I don't think that can be overlooked when talking about combat power. She or Sanji vs the same foe, he deals with them power to power, Robin deals with them by reducing their effective power, they both win against a powerful foe about as surely.

I'm just trying to show you the error of your ways, respect Sanji the meanest cook evar 😉

Oh, Sanji is indeed the meanest cook... no, wait, Red Legs, so second, but he'll take the crown without fail!

Sanji >> Robin it's not even up for discussion

Originally posted by iceman24567
Sanji >> Robin it's not even up for discussion

Apparently it is 🙂

Though I don't have a problem with people rating Sanji higher. I just keep piping up because of "Sanji's stronger because Robin lacks *stuff that Robin has demonstrated*." stuff.

Originally posted by Q99
Apparently it is 🙂

Though I don't have a problem with people rating Sanji higher. I just keep piping up because of "Sanji's stronger because Robin lacks *stuff that Robin has demonstrated*." stuff.

She has shown durability, speed and strength; only Sanji has shown way more of all of the above consistently through all his career, his defensive abilities are way up there too -dodging, counterattacking-.

If you rate Robin above Sanji you may as well rate her above Zoro too, he keeps getting hurt so bad he is never in shape for battles.

Originally posted by Bentley
She has shown durability, speed and strength; only Sanji has shown way more of all of the above consistently through all his career, his defensive abilities are way up there too -dodging, counterattacking-.

But her abilities make it harder for the opponent to fight too, they bypass most enemy dodging and also make it hard for them to attack.

To put it one way, Sanji's a 9, Robin's a 6, but her powers also give the opponent -3. So they're both even matches against 9s but via different ways.

If you rate Robin above Sanji you may as well rate her above Zoro too, he keeps getting hurt so bad he is never in shape for battles.

That's mostly when he's wounded prior to the fight by a sneak attack or similar excuse (that Mihawk wound stayed with him for a long time).

It's just 'East Blue' syndrome 🙂 Robin happens to get fights near ruins she has to protect, Luffy gets knocked into the water, and Zoro gets stabbed ahead of time or has to deal with other prior wounds.

The most powerful fighters get handicapped, the weakers ones don't.

Hmmmmm...

I was watching the thriller bark arc for the second time when I noticed Lola mentioned to Nami that she's from the New World and that her mother is an incredibly powerful pirate there...

Could this be a subtle hint that Lola's mom could possibly be one of the yonkou, specifically Big Mom?...

Lola also hands her mom's vivrecard to Nami...

It strikes me as highly likely. 80% likely, I'd be surprised if it wasn't her.

I honestly think that Kaidou would be a major villain in the New World, and if my suspicion is right, who better to assisst the Strawhats against Kaidou than Big Mom, who is incidentally indebted to the Strawhats for saving her daughter...

That's what I think since I don't think Luffy will meet with Shanks yet just soon after arriving in the New World...

Ah im getting ahead of myself again, my bad...

I think Drake is going to get killed off next he's asking for trouble 😬

I think Drake is far too cool to get killed off.

X Drake does have one of the higher bounties in the Nova. I bet whatever happens with him it'll be epic.

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
I honestly think that Kaidou would be a major villain in the New World, and if my suspicion is right, who better to assisst the Strawhats against Kaidou than Big Mom, who is incidentally indebted to the Strawhats for saving her daughter...

That's what I think since I don't think Luffy will meet with Shanks yet just soon after arriving in the New World...

Ah im getting ahead of myself again, my bad...

I don't think you're far off. Dunno if Big Mamma's going to help them in fights, but at the least she'll offer a base.

Is Brook getting a power up? I didn't see any coming from his arc.

Drake should be one of the last few to fall given how he's based in Francis Drake, a privateer from which the concept of Shichibukai comes. Does anyone has the order for the Supernovas?

It looks like Brook'll be powering up his angle-leaning skills. 😆

Originally posted by Bentley
Is Brook getting a power up? I didn't see any coming from his arc.

Probably, but the specifics are unknown. He was thinking of how he can be of more use to Luffy.

Nothing as cool as getting training from Dragon himself.

Drake should be one of the last few to fall given how he's based in Francis Drake, a privateer from which the concept of Shichibukai comes. Does anyone has the order for the Supernovas?

Order?

If one goes by bounties, it's Kid-Luffy-Hawkings-Drake-Law-Apoo-Killer-Bonney-Bege-Zoro-Urouge.

Any captain above Law is doing great in the New World, anyone below him, not so much.

Yeah, I meant bounties and you're right, it seems Law is the middle ground for losers and current winners.