Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah, but more or less the Shichibukai are pretty equal, except for Moria, who comes off as more of a punk without his shadows and zombie army and stuff.
The navy did agree on that enough to get rid of him.
If he hadn't lost so many of his shadows and zombies to the Strawhats I wonder if he would've been kept on. As a military force it was pretty nice.
Zombie Oars would've impressed a lot of people at Marineford 🙂
Originally posted by NemeBro
Agreed, Moria is potentially very powerful, but alot of his power comes from the fact that he can essentially be a one-man army, able to create armies of Zombies and stuff, and himself can grow moar powaful with the ossimness that is Shadow Asgard.
I'd say he's basically the most variable Shichibukai. If he kept collecting shadows and bodies of Supernova-class people or higher, there's very few that could stop him. A whole line of special zombies could've allowed him to try for the top again.
And, conversely, he can have a repeat of what happened at Thriller Bark and be reduced to a few handfuls of shadows and zombies.
Yea. Whitebeard's tough as nails, strong as heck, awesome power, tremendous skill, and probably one of the strongest Haki that's no doubt mastered. Even taking on an Admiral didn't phase him.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Not very high.
I'd say they'd be quite high.
They wouldn't be top-top, but consider someone like Bellamy, who's got nothing on them and got to 55 mil.
Sasuke'd probably be rated higher than his raw strength suggests, because genjutsu powers would make him quite hard to deal with and few would be very good at fighting that. Mental powers can be pretty telling in OP, as Ms. Goldenweek showed, but have that in combination with reasonably high speed and a variety of offensive powers? Sasuke could be quite a pirate.
Sage Naruto is also more powerful than the vast majority of pirates out there, though more straitforward to deal with.
The fact the pair have odd powers but no devilfruit weakness would throw a lot of people off too.
Originally posted by Q99Bellamy had a high bounty mostly due to his relationship with a Shichibukai, I thought.
I'd say they'd be quite high.They wouldn't be top-top, but consider someone like Bellamy, who's got nothing on them and got to 55 mil.
Sasuke'd probably be rated higher than his raw strength suggests, because genjutsu powers would make him quite hard to deal with and few would be very good at fighting that. Mental powers can be pretty telling in OP, as Ms. Goldenweek showed, but have that in combination with reasonably high speed and a variety of offensive powers? Sasuke could be quite a pirate.
Sage Naruto is also more powerful than the vast majority of pirates out there, though more straitforward to deal with.
The fact the pair have odd powers but no devilfruit weakness would throw a lot of people off too.
Genjutsu could give him the win against some scrubs but it would pose no real threat to the big dawgs of OPverse. Keep in mind East Blue was the weakest of the seas. Sasuke would not be that fast in OP.
Nah, physically he can be compared to Arlong, only with a few more powers, but he would not amount to much compared to some of the stronger crews and pirates out there.
Keep in mind when I said "not very high" I meant not only because they are not particularly strong, they pose no real threat to the World Government. Neither have a crew, and Sasuke as he is right now prolly would not be able to get one to join him (Unless he goes the Don Krieg route and intimidates weaklings), Naruto could prolly get some to join him though, but in powah he would never be able to reach the upper echelons of OPverse, hell, not even Strawhat level.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Bellamy had a high bounty mostly due to his relationship with a Shichibukai, I thought.
I don't think it was known his connection/purely due to that, and he had no problem killing that other bounty head who had a 42 mil, and thought a 30 mil like Luffy would be easy.
I think he got that high for killing off a string of pirates with sizable bounty heads like we saw him doing.
Genjutsu could give him the win against some scrubs but it would pose no real threat to the big dawgs of OPverse. Keep in mind East Blue was the weakest of the seas. Sasuke would not be that fast in OP.
Mind resistance and power can be separate though, Luffy's highly vulnerable for example.
And keep in mind, the 'big dawgs' are like 2 dozen people across an entire planet. They aren't very common.
Nah, physically he can be compared to Arlong, only with a few more powers, but he would not amount to much compared to some of the stronger crews and pirates out there.
A lot more powers. He's faster than Arlong, his burn-anything fire'll kill a lot of even really powerful foes (he'd be a threat to some Logia users), and Kirin is at least comparable to Enel's normal blasts that were one-shotting very powerful warriors (though much less than Enel's really big attacks of course).
All that in one package, especially one that's not adverse to assassination, is going to translate into a high bounty.
Keep in mind when I said "not very high" I meant not only because they are not particularly strong, they pose no real threat to the World Government. Neither have a crew, and Sasuke as he is right now prolly would not be able to get one to join him (Unless he goes the Don Krieg route and intimidates weaklings),
Sasuke could as assassin and be a threat that way. How many kings would be safe from Sasuke? Also either could go around smashing military bases in the four Blues easily (for their own reasons- Naruto for justice, Sasuke if he felt they had to be eliminated), or even major ones if no-one major is present (picture Enes Lobby when CP9 is away on a mission. There's no-one that could prevent them from offing any target there).
If they wanted to be a threat, they could be.
Sasuke has both the Don Krieg route, and promising himself as a way to power/to help others get their revenge or other goals, similar to what Madara and Orochimaru did for him, or how he got Suigetsu.
I'd think they could get at least in the 100mil range, *maybe* 200mil, they're more dangerous than Bege and the other weaker supernovas.
Naruto could prolly get some to join him though, but in powah he would never be able to reach the upper echelons of OPverse, hell, not even Strawhat level.
I think he's stronger than most of the Strawhats.
I guess it depends if they're part of a decent crew, as captains I don't think they could go through half of what Luffy did imo...
I agree with Sasuke being an assasin type, he'd be perfect as a member of CP9...
also, using the Mangekyo comes with a price, it isn't an inexhaustible power source, Sasuke should be intelligent how and when he uses it especially against pirates in the grand line or higher ranked marines...