Originally posted by Canadian Moose
Ummm...do YOU read the news? There are LOTS of things like that happening. Kids in grade school...bringing knives and guns to school. so no THAT is not an absurd comment.
yes i do.
And it most certainly doesn't happen "lots."
it's an extremely rare occurence that tends to happen in the worst neighbor hoods and school districts in the country.
6 year olds...are kindergarteners if i'm not mistaken. 7-10 year olds are as high as 3rd grade.
the number of third grade kids with knives at school are SIGNIFICANTLY less than the grade schools of 6-8 grade. And at that age discipline should already be instilled in the child.
Re: to spank or not to spank....that is the question
Originally posted by shelliefor those who are comfortable with this question...
were you spanked as a child or not ? how did it effect your relationship with your parents ?
I was never spanked with a hand but i got hit daily with a switch on my ass. And i hated my mother and stepfather for it. *ofcourse i hated them anyways*
Seriously I think as a toddler a swat on the butt is ok. But not when they're older.
No, i dont think you should spank children. there are other ways of discipline
Im gonna go all Fraud on your asses now - its very important to have major patience with children from ages 3-6 [because that age is MAJORLY cruital) and no spanking, but re-direction and such. Children will develop respect for the parent more if the parent doesnt spank the kid. (also, it will not turn out to be a serial killer, a deviant or a sex offender - while Im already taking Freud's theory)
My mother never spanked me, nor was i physhcaly afraid what she might do to me if i did something wrong, instead my biggest fear was her being dissapointed in me or losing her trust in me, and thus me losing my privilages.
Originally posted by Canadian Moose
And you are entitled to opinion, that is fine. Like I said, I've seen the effects that it can have on children and I don't agree. I just can't stand comments like
i have seen kids who havent been spanked and they have no fear of their parents at all. when your kids dont fear you (to a certain extent) whats to stop them from doing anything they want and know they arent going to be spanked?Children should not have to fear their own parents.
But children most certainly should fear their parents when they are angry.
there should be a clear line between pushing someone's buttons when they are in a good mood, and pushing their buttons when they are angry.
Re: Re: to spank or not to spank....that is the question
Originally posted by Silver Tongue
I was never spanked with a hand but i got hit daily with a switch on my ass. And i hated my mother and stepfather for it. *ofcourse i hated them anyways*
Seriously I think as a toddler a swat on the butt is ok. But not when they're older.
No person with an ounce of morality would strike a toddler.
Re: Re: Re: to spank or not to spank....that is the question
Originally posted by Samurai Guy
No person with an ounce of morality would strike a toddler.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Children will develop respect for the parent more if the parent doesnt spank the kid.
and the proof of that is where?
spanking your child is different than beating your child. If you beat your child, you will lose their respect.
some things can't just be "re-directed"
Re: Re: Re: to spank or not to spank....that is the question
Originally posted by Samurai Guy
No person with an ounce of morality would strike a toddler.
I agree with this unlike my fellow spanking supporters.
There is an age at which children are too young and too old to be spanked. diapers...is entirely too young.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, i dont think you should spank children. there are other ways of disciplineIm gonna go all Fraud on your asses now - its very important to have major patience with children from ages 3-6 [because that age is MAJORLY cruital) and no spanking, but re-direction and such. Children will develop respect for the parent more if the parent doesnt spank the kid. (also, it will not turn out to be a serial killer, a deviant or a sex offender - while Im already taking Freud's theory)
My mother never spanked me, nor was i physhcaly afraid what she might do to me if i did something wrong, instead my biggest fear was her being dissapointed in me or losing her trust in me, and thus me losing my privilages.
What about when they are 7-9 and get out of hand? What then? If they are disobediant and untamed. If they hit an age when the word no seems to be the extent of their vocabulary?
For lack of a better phrase...
"Desperate times call for desperate measures."
Originally posted by Samurai Guy
What about when they are 7-9 and get out of hand? What then? If they are disobediant and untamed. If they hit an age when the word no seems to be the extent of their vocabulary?For lack of a better phrase...
"Desperate times call for desperate measures."
Untamed....hmm...And WHO'S fault is that>
Re: Re: Re: Re: to spank or not to spank....that is the question
Originally posted by Linkalicious
I agree with this unlike my fellow spanking supporters.There is an age at which children are too young and too old to be spanked. diapers...is entirely too young.
Link Ive seen some pretty old children still in diapers.
Originally posted by Linkalicious
I agree with this unlike my fellow spanking supporters.There is an age at which children are too young and too old to be spanked. diapers...is entirely too young.
I am in full support of spanking if it is NECESSARY.
If their are alternatives to physical punishment, then deturr from it. This much should be obvious.