Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by Creshosk244 pages

Originally posted by who?-kid
Do not use the movies, I beg you, in your own interest, do not use the movies as an example.

Because if you use them, the Icon Trio will be crushed by both comic SM and movie SM...

I'm arguing against the use of the movies.

Originally posted by Zahit
truth hurts.

*rolls around on the floor laughing hysterically*

😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Zahit
truth hurts.

It would if that were the truth, but exagerating your opponents arguments should be done in jest only.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And Spiderman couldn't even budge Doc OC's sunglasses when he punched him . .

That was so stupid for Doc Oc to take a shot from spiderman and the galses dint' get even cracked. . .

But hey if you're going to use the movies. . .

Punching Ock is more of an accomplishment than you seem to realize.... Surviving a solo fight with ock is something Cap and DD wouldn't be able to do 9 times out of ten...

Originally posted by The MISTER
Punching Ock is more of an accomplishment than you seem to realize.... Surviving a solo fight with ock is something Cap and DD wouldn't be able to do 9 times out of ten...
Go watch the movie again, When Spidey hits oc what happens to oc's glasses?

Originally posted by Creshosk
But he didn't. . .and that's what I was saying. he did not go "splat" like he should have

Of course he didn't die. Duh ! Like Marvel was going to kill DD. Lol, is that the best you can do ? But he didn't die ! So ? Big deal...

I've seen DD wounded on numerous occasions (falling from a not that high building, breaking his leg, being hurt after a relatively small explosion, you name it...), but now he can take some punches of the Hulk ?

Okay, whatever you say man...😆

Spiderman SHOULD be able to hit hard enough to ko them.

Finally you agree. Sure took you long enough.
Wolverine has taken spiderpunchs on numerous occasions. But I guess the only peron really still arguing aginst wolverine being able to take a spiderpunch is the self proclaimed "inteligent, polite" debator that disregards points and flames his opposition and the MISTER.

You lost me. But I would be careful if I were you : in the short time you are here, you already have a reputation as an insult-boy, and if I had a dollar for all your post in which you call everyone who disagrees with you a fanboy...

Originally posted by who?-kid

Of course he didn't die. Duh ! Like Marvel was going to kill DD. Lol, is that the best you can do ? But he didn't die ! So ? Big deal...

I've seen DD wounded on numerous occasions (falling from a not that high building, breaking his leg, being hurt after a relatively small explosion, you name it...), but now he can take some punches of the Hulk ?

Okay, whatever you say man...😆

Finally you agree. Sure took you long enough.

You lost me. But I would be careful if I were you : in the short time you are here, you already have a reputation as an insult-boy, and if I had a dollar for all your post in which you call everyone who disagrees with you a fanboy... [/B]

Only when they disregard what happened in the comic bookcs simply because they don't like it despite it happening numerous times, or make some realy stupid argument. . .

I don't care if you see me as an insult-boy or not. I still try to debate with people who are fanboy's. Because it's illogical to disregard what someone says simply because of who or what they are. . . that's ad hominem.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Only when they disregard what happened in the comic bookcs simply because they don't like it despite it happening numerous times, or make some realy stupid argument. . .

Such as ? What have I - or others - been ignoring ?

Originally posted by who?-kid
Such as ? What have I - or others - been ignoring ?
Some people have been ignoring the multiple shots Wolverine takes from strong people. Like spiderman, on three different occasions.

"Wolverine has not what it trakes cause spiderman is too strong for him!"

Even though it's been shown that Wolverine can take a Spidey beating?

You? Well you were more of a "I don't know much of anything about his opposition, but spidey still wins" kind of fanboy.

How did Spidey get close enough to hit Ock?

And here's a question that I'm going to enjoy receiving answers on...

Edit :the questions are about Wolvy..

Does he need his brain? I think i know this one...Yes!

Can Spidey hit him in the head hard enough to make the strongest brain of all break apart inside the skull?..lets see...

well a brain isn't that tough is it? No

.....well Spidey can punch through a 3 inch thick steel door like it's wet cardboard right?...Yes

well a cannonball couldn't do that right?No ,not if it doesn't explode...it may knock the entire door in...

..Would that same ball break a brain apart from impact alone? Probably but we already know Spidey can punch harder than the ball can hit....Hard enough and fast enough to peirce solid steel casually....

I think I answered most of my questions myself... So here's the one I can't answer...

Is wolverines brain Super durable and capable of healing instantaneously?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Some people have been ignoring the multiple shots Wolverine takes from strong people. Like spiderman, on three different occasions.

"Wolverine has not what it trakes cause spiderman is too strong for him!"

Even though it's been shown that Wolverine can take a Spidey beating?

You? Well you were more of a "I don't know much of anything about his opposition, but spidey still wins" kind of fanboy.

Creshosk you should really read through this thread from start to finish..most of the "spidey fanboys" have been fairly balanced in their opinions. Anyway...don't get too hot under the collar..if you've noticed..people on this board tend to "flame" each other from time to time..it's all in good fun...

Originally posted by Creshosk
You? Well you were more of a "I don't know much of anything about his opposition, but spidey still wins" kind of fanboy.

This is too stupid too reply 😉 - and that's saying a lot, here on these forums.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Some people have been ignoring the multiple shots Wolverine takes from strong people. Like spiderman, on three different occasions.

"Wolverine has not what it trakes cause spiderman is too strong for him!"

Even though it's been shown that Wolverine can take a Spidey beating?

You? Well you were more of a "I don't know much of anything about his opposition, but spidey still wins" kind of fanboy.

There are many types of fans here but calling someone a fanboy without a good reason makes you look VERY much like one... A good reason to call someone a fanboy is when they argue visciously for the complete and total rejection of ALL logic so that it's fair/they win...

Illogical means just that....Don't get mad 😮‍💨

fanboy 😎

Originally posted by Creshosk
Some people have been ignoring the multiple shots Wolverine takes from strong people. Like spiderman, on three different occasions.
"Wolverine has not what it trakes cause spiderman is too strong for him!"
Even though it's been shown that Wolverine can take a Spidey beating?

How do you explain that in Wolverine's own book he was
recently hit in the head with a metal dumbell by Daredevil.
Wolverine staggered from the blow then fell down.
In another recent book he takes two from Namor and doesn't fall.
In another he takes punches from Spiderman and smiles....
Is Daredevil stronger than Spiderman?
Is Daredevil stronger than Namor?
Is Wolverine inconsistently written these days?
Can you tell the difference between proper and improper writing of the character Wolverine?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Some people have been ignoring the multiple shots Wolverine takes from strong people. Like spiderman, on three different occasions.

When Wolverine stabbed Spider-Man by accident - he admitted himself it was an accident - Spider-Man got mad and literally kicked Wolverine around, Wolverine was still on his knees covering his head when the fight was over...

True, Wolverine can stab Spider-Man. Not very likely, but hey, it happened. What also happened is that Spider-Man actually did hurt Wolverine with, hm wait, with only 3 punches or so ?

So much for the "Wolverine can take with ease anything that Spider-Man does to him" - theory.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Creshosk you should really read through this thread from start to finish..most of the "spidey fanboys" have been fairly balanced in their opinions. Anyway...don't get too hot under the collar..if you've noticed..people on this board tend to "flame" each other from time to time..it's all in good fun...
I've read the thread. And alot think they're being fair and balanced, but this really isn't the case, as alot of people still disregard things and use bits and pieces from one set of information.

I don't know WHY wolverine was able to take Spiderman punching him as hard as he did. Be he could. IT's been three different occasions where spiderman has punched wolverine in the head. And on each of these three occasions Wolverine has taken it.

That has to mean something.

But then the people keep resorting back to real world physics which obviously does not apply in this situation. We have to use the comic book physics.

They show how strong Spiderman is with canonballs and bullets and how he can punch through steel.

Obviously there is SOMETHING keeping wolverine concious. . be it his healing factor or the adamantium or something keeping wolverine concious. Why? Because he does, he has shown he CAN.

Rather than people showing Spiderman Should (and inaccuratly using "could" instead of should) be able to knock him out.

Spiderman should be able to because he lifts 10 tons.
Spiderman should be able to because he tears through steel like it was tissue paper.
Spiderman should be able to because he hits harder than such and such. . .

But just because something should be able to happen doesn't mean that it does happen.

Like a kid with an IQ high enough to get straight A's on his homework getting less than that.

There is SOMETHING working against him, be it laziness, forgetfulness a traffic accident delaying his turning it in or even just the teacher or the teacher's aide being assholes.

Something is working against spiderman's being able to knock wolverine out to the point he can't.

Originally posted by The MISTER
There are many types of fans here but calling someone a fanboy without a good reason makes you look VERY much like one... A good reason to call someone a fanboy is when they argue visciously for the complete and total rejection of ALL logic so that it's fair/they win...

Illogical means just that....Don't get mad 😮‍💨

fanboy 😎

I think disregarding an event that has happened in order to state that it wouldn't is illogical.

Who am I a fanboy of? Wolverine? Hardly, I like him as much as spiderman.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I don't know WHY wolverine was able to take Spiderman punching him as hard as he did. Be he could. IT's been three different occasions where spiderman has punched wolverine in the head. And on each of these three occasions Wolverine has taken it.

That has to mean something.

Obviously there is SOMETHING keeping wolverine concious. . be it his healing factor or the adamantium or something keeping wolverine concious. Why? Because he does, he has shown he CAN.

Something is working against spiderman's being able to knock wolverine out to the point he can't.


That "something" is the WRITERS and EDITORS who keep
reading the letters sent by retarded fanboys crying and
BEGGING for Wolverine to be more popular and more powerful.
THAT'S what keeps Wolverine conscious.

Wow, look at the poll, 36 % of the members actually think Spider-Man stands a chance at beating these guys.

Not only he's outnumbered (three against one), but he faces very popular characters, and still 1 out of 3 people vote for him ?

Not bad.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Like a kid with an IQ high enough to get straight A's on his homework getting less than that.

There is SOMETHING working against him, be it laziness, forgetfulness a traffic accident delaying his turning it in or even just the teacher or the teacher's aide being assholes.

Something is working against spiderman's being able to knock wolverine out to the point he can't.

Well here's a few things working against him..plot devices, fan popularity of the characters he goes up against, having stories last more than 2 pages..

I mean come on..how many people would want to pay to see a battle where Spidey web's up Captain A/Wolvie/DD in 2 panels? He's fully capable of doing this you know...but fans don't want to see that. They want to get their money's worth..and the comic book companies want to make money. Most of the time..the popularity of the characters involved dictates the outcome of the types of battles you mention above..