Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

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CorderaMitchell Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Wow. That is all I can say for that Creshok.

Way to go

You jumped all around what I said.

I believe what I meant was in general if one guy punched another in the stomach, they would STILL FEEL IT IN THE STOMACH

I am going to disregard whatever else you said since you are still evading my main point and putting words in my mouth all the same.

I never said Spidey did one punch Wolvie or always will, I said it could happen and he has the SUFFICIENT STRENGTH to knock him out. Super Stong characters are overpowered, Super fast characters overwhelmed, Super smart characters tricked, and Super Durable Characters KNOCKED THE FU** out!! It is like any other fight between people one situation a person may get knocked out in one punch, one situation it is more long paced, I don't care how much you evade my point ( which you are so adept at doing) you cannot deny that.
1)Spiderman can lift 10 tons.
2)Spiderman travels at Superhuman speed
3)Spiderman is going all out not holding back (a key point)
4)Spiderman is more than able of knocking out the other 2 as well as Wolverine in this mode.
5)Wolverine is just a peak human with claws,skeleton, healing factor, and is only somewhat stronger than Cyclops.
Don't give me that healing factor bs, the concussive damage would be more than enough to knock him unconscious immediately just like a bullet did in a CERTAIN MOVIE. Without touching the skeleton. And if you don't think Spidey can do more damage than a normal bullet, man there is no help for you. It doesn't matter if he is awake later, he would have used enough precious time to give Spidey the edge he needs. You've been blinded by Wolvie's overratedness bub, and his lame "Clint Eastwood Accent" All I hear is no Wolverine can't be hit by that he has a healing factor, blah. It still hurts, Wolverine one day is just a ground level fighter with durability, next he beats Magneto, or "Over powers Venom", something is mucho wrong with that picture, as Spiderninja008 said, Venom would just dump a fire truck on him and call it a day.
There you go facts with no polar bears, Juggernauts, splats, Galactus,radioactive spiders, or anything else to throw you off. I've said it plain and simple, spidey has the SUPERIOR strength, speed, agility, pre-cog, versatility, technology, and a quick mind. Which you constantly seem to downplay because of your denile or ignorance. Say what you want I am not being a fanboy you are using that as an excuse because you can't come up with any good reason or scenarios. I've argued intelligently, considerately, and politely. Fanboys use crap righting, and whatever CONSTANTLY to support their facts, pull stuff out of theirA**and usually know NOTHING of the other characters. I have brought many ways of him winning to the table . Spidey winning in this situation going all out seems very doable to me AND doesn't make him a god, he simply has too many options and advantages and can control the style of fight with his superior mobility and wall sticking. Spidey vs. Iron Man, I didn't see spidey quite winning and disagreed. So talk what you know. 🤘 🤘 🤘 💃

jinzin Senior Member

here's the thing.....spider sense or not wolverine has more than enough speed to tag spiderman...as he has done so on all three occasions they've actually had a confrontation...... saying spiderman will be dodging everything wolverine throws at him is 100% wrong until it's proven otherwise.....in this fight it's even worse that spiderman has two other opponents to deal with.....

.spiderman CAN'T knock wolverine out unless he gets REALLY REALLY lucky...why do I say this?

well aside from the fact that spiderman laid into wolvie on two of their three fights and wolverine smiled at him during one of them and just stood up to mock spidey after the other.....wolverine has fought the strongest being on the marvel earth, the hulk....out of the 10 fights they've had thus far, hulk has only been able to successfully KO logan twice....he came very close in 6 hours but wolvie wasn't quite out by the end of that.....the two times he DID KO logan however.....were with cheap shots..... aside from that....logans been smacked around by sentinals and got up okay, hit full force to the back of the noggin by collosus and jumped up like nothing happened, got smacked through a wall by thing and got up okay, took three full on shots from namor and gutted him for his troubles, took a beating all day from roughhouse (who's at the LEAST twice as strong as spidey) without adamantium and resolved to beat both him and bloodscream by the end of it, KOed roughhouse in a fist fight, beat the tar out of warpath in a fist fight, got hit by hulk with a living tree that had the destructive force of a bomb....(no joke it even glazed over the ground that wolverine got smacked into)went toe to well fin with tigershark...IN WATER and won! these are just some examples of his durability man.....SPIDERMAN CAN'T KNOCK HIM OUT....HE CAN'T!

spiderman can web wolvie up...BUT...he has to catch wolverine in a VERY uncomprimising position to keep him from getting free....considering there are two other guys around to either cut him out, help deflect the webbing in the first place, or keep spiderman occupied while wolverine frees himself...it ain't gonna happen.....

honestly he's gonna have a hard enough time fighting logan alone...much less beating him...and lest we forget....when wolverine is in a true berserker rage he has yet to be stopped.....when he truley reaches for the berserker rage inside...he's not just some mindless animal.....he's nothing more than an unstoppable killing machine...spiderman may be in a anything neccassary situation here....but he doesn't have the cajones to fight wolverine...not at THAT level...that's were wolverine lives......spiderman in this scenario is more prone to making mistakes...or letting his anger get the best of him...wolverine retains his fighting ability while EVERYTHING else goes into overdrive for a berserker rage......

he'd be hard pressed to beat logan alone.......add in two more established superheroes like cap and DD put them in bloodlust or whatever we're calling it today....and spidey goes down....HARD.

MERCILOUS ALWAYS METAL

Spidey rage vs. Wolvie rage. Spidey just swings and hopes to hit, Wolvie hits every time.

Hulk Power Senior Member

Spider-Man loses easily. No doubt.

long pig Restricted

Originally posted by jinzin
honestly he's gonna have a hard enough time fighting logan alone...much less beating him...and lest we forget....when wolverine is in a true berserker rage he has yet to be stopped.....when he truley reaches for the berserker rage inside...he's not just some mindless animal.....he's nothing more than an unstoppable killing machine...spiderman may be in a anything neccassary situation here....but he doesn't have the cajones to fight wolverine...not at THAT level...that's were wolverine lives......spiderman in this scenario is more prone to making mistakes...or letting his anger get the best of him...wolverine retains his fighting ability while EVERYTHING else goes into overdrive for a berserker rage......
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You just reminded me why i used to really really like wolverine.
Struggle with that animal....

damn....

jinzin Senior Member

yeah i used to love the fallen samurai that couldn't trust himself much less his own team....

long pig Restricted

Yeah, what the hell happend?

jinzin Senior Member

good question....never thought I'd miss cleremont. lol.

jinzin Senior Member

that's not entirely fair though.....the end of wolverine's original series was extreeeeeemely well written IMO...and pheonix endsong.......is just......nearly breath taking....

MERCILOUS ALWAYS METAL

Originally posted by jinzin
good question....never thought I'd miss cleremont. lol.

He wasn't always a hasbeen, but that's no reason not to hate him. A guy should know when to retire.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wow. That is all I can say for that Creshok.
Way to go
You jumped all around what I said.
I believe what I meant was in general if one guy punched another in the stomach, they would STILL FEEL IT IN THE STOMACH

Agai, it depends on who hits who, spiderman cannot punch galactus in the stomache and make them feel it. . . Cyclops can't punch the hulk in the stomache and make him feel it either.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I am going to disregard whatever else you said since you are still evading my main point and putting words in my mouth all the same.

I should probably just disregard your rampant fanyboyism. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I never said Spidey did one punch Wolvie or always will, I said it could happen and he has the SUFFICIENT STRENGTH to knock him out.

Except he never does in the comics, if he ever could he would have by now. but he has not knocked wolverine out once in the three fights I've seen. Wolverine is more durable than you give him credit for.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Super Stong characters are overpowered, Super fast characters overwhelmed, Super smart characters tricked, and Super Durable Characters KNOCKED THE FU** out!!

Yeah that makers ALOT of sense. . . 🙄

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It is like any other fight between people one situation a person may get knocked out in one punch, one situation it is more long paced,

Spiderman's avaerage for knocking wolverine out is 0 for 3. . .
Wolverine's staying concious from spiderpunchs is 100%.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I don't care how much you evade my point ( which you are so adept at doing) you cannot deny that.

If you'd make a decent point this might be true but guess what? In all three situations Wolverine was not knocked out by Spiderman.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
1)Spiderman can lift 10 tons.
2)Spiderman travels at Superhuman speed
3)Spiderman is going all out not holding back (a key point)
4)Spiderman is more than able of knocking out the other 2 as well as Wolverine in this mode.

Except he HASN'T knocked any of the three out. he wasn't holding back against two of them.
So obviously those two are durable enough to take spiderpunches.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
5)Wolverine is just a peak human with claws,skeleton, healing factor, and is only somewhat stronger than Cyclops.

And people claim him to be Superhuman in the Batman Vs Spidey thread. . . he can lift well more than a "peak human" He has superhuman strength.

Just like Spiderman is hjust a human with spiderpowers. . . . And Captin America is Just a human pumped up on steroids. . .

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Don't give me that healing factor bs, the concussive damage would be more than enough to knock him unconscious immediately just like a bullet did in a CERTAIN MOVIE.

Oh you mean like how spiderman couldn't knock out a human, or crack or even dislodge a certain other person's sunglasses in a CERTAIN MOVIE?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Without touching the skeleton. And if you don't think Spidey can do more damage than a normal bullet, man there is no help for you.

You're applying that real world laws of physics thing which doesn't fly in comic books.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It doesn't matter if he is awake later, he would have used enough precious time to give Spidey the edge he needs.

Oh you're still arguing the wolverine from the movies, like the spiderman in his movie couldn't knock doc oc out. . . Wolverine is more durable than doc oc.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You've been blinded by Wolvie's overratedness bub,

Or you by spidermans. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and his lame "Clint Eastwood Accent" All I hear is no Wolverine can't be hit by that he has a healing factor, blah.

Because he can't. if he could he would have in the comics before. But he hasn't not once.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It still hurts, Wolverine one day is just a ground level fighter with durability, next he beats Magneto, or "Over powers Venom", something is mucho wrong with that picture,

Yeah your strawman arguments are astoundingly stupid.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
as Spiderninja008 said, Venom would just dump a fire truck on him and call it a day.

And this is relating to spiderman . . how?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
There you go facts with no polar bears, Juggernauts, splats, Galactus,radioactive spiders, or anything else to throw you off.

Yeah just using a movie wolverine to argue against, when a movie spiderman couldn't knock doc oc out or even disturb his glasses. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I've said it plain and simple, spidey has the SUPERIOR strength, speed, agility, pre-cog, versatility, technology, and a quick mind.

And stats are EVERYTHING once again. 🙄

I mean it's not like the X-chumps could ever touch that juggernaut guy, there's just no way. He's stronger, has physical invulnerability and has a helmet to sheild his mind from psionic attacks. he own's those x-chumps easy. . . . or you know not. Since this isn't a math battle.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Which you constantly seem to downplay because of your denile or ignorance.

Or you overplay, and downplay spiderman's opponents strengths in your blatent fanboyism.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Say what you want I am not being a fanboy

Now you're being a liar as well.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
you are using that as an excuse because you can't come up with any good reason or scenarios.

That's impossible. your fanboy shield is operating at 110%. Logic and reason bounces off your sheild of stupidity.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I've argued intelligently,

Not really, you've choosen to discard any argument that doesn't agree with your side for no good reason.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
considerately,

Oh like how you said "I'm going to disregard what ever other points you made"

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and politely.

That's redundant, and it'd be redundant of me to answer this like I did it's synonym.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Fanboys use crap righting, and whatever CONSTANTLY to support their facts, pull stuff out of theirA**and usually know NOTHING of the other characters.

That's right you do do that don't you?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I have brought many ways of him winning to the table .

by disregarding what Spiderman has done in the past and giving him abilities he's NEVER displayed.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spidey winning in this situation going all out seems very doable to me

Take the fanboy specs off and have another look.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
AND doesn't make him a god,

what you mean beating down three people in a single punch so that these guys don't even make spidey worry in the least? Despite the fact that each of the trio has done something in the books to SHOW that they are a threat?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
he simply has too many options

Yeah one punch them, whoohoo. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and advantages

particularly when you disregard his opponents abilities. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and can control the style of fight with his superior mobility and wall sticking.

Despite haveing to fight three threats at the same time. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spidey vs. Iron Man, I didn't see spidey quite winning and disagreed. So talk what you know. 🤘 🤘 🤘 💃

OMG! couldn't spiderman one punch iron dork! he should tear through Ironman's armor like tissue paper, I mean its just iron!

who?-kid Senior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk

Yeah one punch them, whoohoo. . .

I have a question for you - in fact, it's a question for all the Icon Trio defenders here. I asked it already in the past, but nobody dared to reply, so I guess I'll have to ask it again (I am very stubborn).

We all know that Spider-Man can punch through a solid steel door with ease, right ? Okay, here it comes => Can DD and CA survive such a powerpunch, are their skulls even harder than solid steel ?

Answer please.

(Note to myself : I'll probably get a lot of silence, or answers who have nothing to do with my question, or "Dude, they will roll with those punches !)

CorderaMitchell Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

First off wolverines questionable healing factor is just that, questionable. One minute he is out from drinking some poisoned tea, or floored easily by a punch from Cyclops (not knocked out by the punch so you cant make crap up),the next he is taking hits from the likes of Namor and not falling out. Wolverine's inconsistant healing factor is not even worth an ounce of anyone's time anymore because the stupid range of what he can take is constantly changed due to the fact that he is overrated. NO ONE REALLY AGREES ON IT ANYMORE.
Why i waste my keyboard on you is a mystery, since I never said he was only relying on a one punch strategy. You only want to see that because you are in denial of the fact that Spidey has way too many options and hardly relies on his superstrength anyway. Wolverine's healing is passive, it is active at its potential, whether he likes it or not. When he was knocked out by a certain bullet, that was his limit.
Yet you seem to love limiting his pre-cog, which is pretty CONSISTANT and easy to understand I might add. It's not perfect, but it is enough and combined with his BY FAR SUPREME: agility, speed, and strength ( strength is directly related to speed just so you know) It is more than enough to evade attacks with relative ease, especially if it is an unplanned fight in a random scenario.
Super Strength is not passsive, (I hope I'm not using too big of words for you) he can use it at any measure he wants. YOU IDIOT, there have been many situations where he has held back to only to put a human on his ass, then to stop a train,lift a car, stagger supervillians, crack concrete,(take your pick) So by saying he couldn't knock out this or that while he is holding back AND protecting civillians at the same time proves nothing.
Like I stated earlier. These are incredible and popular characters. Noone would want too see them floored in one punch and spidey is almost never beserk anyway., so using that in a hypothetical argument in a unique scenario where spidey IS going all out is FOOLISH and STUPID. When he did go beserk,the only mistake he made was nearly taking a life, don't underestimate him. Wolvie goes beserk, and like all beserk characters, he is HIGHLY AGGRESSIVE and attacks willy nilly, all attacks will be lethal, and burn spideys PRE-COG to where he can react. Seriously you act as if he was stupid enough to trade punches with the trio.
You are a Spidey hater and like it or not he is a very formidable opponent. An unpulled punch in this scenario is MORE THAN CAPABLE of KO'ing DD and Cap, even killing them.This combined with his speed blitz can turn the tide of battle fast and make this battle a joke quickly, but not necessarily. Like it was MENTIONED EARLIER, SPIDEY EASILY HAS THIS IN THE OPEN, THE ONLY CHANCE IS FOR THE TRIO TO CLOSE HIM IN. Imagine That alien vs. marine scenario, they were insanely fast and ferocious, killing you easily. COUPLE THAT WITH SUPER STRENGTH, WEBBING, PRE-COG, AND GREAT INTELLIGENCE, this guy is CAPABLE of getting the job done.
Without any concussive fighting damage, Spidey still has webbing on his side. Don't even underrate it and say it is weak. It is CONSISTENT fact that a sufficient amount can hold The Thing for life, and it has held the likes of:Wolverine, THing, Hulk, She Hulk, The Rhino, Trains, and too many Characters and items to list here. Web them in the lake, smack them into a car, wall, whatever, limitless options.
THIS, combined with his master dexterity, coordination, ariel ability, speed, agility, and the basic fact that the ADULT parker has mastered his webbing, allows him to shoot it in fatal-areas Such as the mouth and nostrils, THIS WAS EVENTUALLY AGREED UPON EARLIER. This is liquid steel cable you know.
If you take the time and read this ENTIRE THREAD, you will see indeed that in many ways, the spidey supporters have given enough facts for over 100 pages, With the exception of Jinzin, noone has given good arguments, except, he is triple teamed(He's been outnumbered by greater likes than these three)., CAPS THE MASTER STRATEGIST (give me a Reasonable Strategy), or Cap can toss his shield in excess over 200 mph ( Bah, whatever).
On the Iron Man thread, I did agree that Spidey would most likely lose, you ignorant cretin, I said he ripped it once In the future. Why don't you go read that ENTIRE THREAD, so i don't have to once again reiterate myself, and Make you sound HAVE AS IN DENIAL AND IGNORANT AS YOU ALREADY ARE.
Your arguing technique's take the cake, shits it out, eats the shit, and then pukes it out again. You make no good argument, you only say no he can't or no he won't. Prove to me why and keep in mind that this scenario hasn't happened so use some brainwork. Until then, don't bother quoting me until you have reread some of the arguments, and post my ENTIRE SAYING, NOT JUST PIECES YOU CHOOSE. Maybe you will then have a decent understanding of how inconsistent Wolvie's power's are. The trio are excellent, but fare a MUCHO BETTER CHANCE IN UP-CLOSE, TIGHT AREAS, where they can take advantage of his inspecific precog and whack him. Until then it is clobbering time. PROPS TO ALL THE SPIDEY SUPPORTERS, AND thanks to Jinzin and some other trio supporters for being a good debator and looking at more facts than shooting all the opposing one's down. PEACE FOR NOW!!! 💃 💃 💃 💃 💃 🤣

CorderaMitchell Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Thanks for supporting me who-kid and others against this arrogant and ignorant argurer.

who?-kid Senior Member

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Thanks for supporting me who-kid and others against this arrogant and ignorant argurer.

My pleasure.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by who?-kid
I have a question for you - in fact, it's a question for all the Icon Trio defenders here. I asked it already in the past, but nobody dared to reply, so I guess I'll have to ask it again (I am very stubborn).
We all know that Spider-Man can punch through a solid steel door with ease, right ? Okay, here it comes => [b]Can DD and CA survive such a powerpunch, are their skulls even harder than solid steel ?
Answer please.
(Note to myself : I'll probably get a lot of silence, or answers who have nothing to do with my question, or "Dude, they will roll with those punches !) [/B]

I'm not sure if CA can, he's always blocked with his sheild, which he's fast enough to block up and CAN take spider punches.

DD I'd have to say yes because he's taken hulk swats and not died.

I don't know what makes him ABLE to take these kind of hits but he can, because he has.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
First off wolverines questionable healing factor is just that, questionable. One minute he is out from drinking some poisoned tea, or floored easily by a punch from Cyclops (not knocked out by the punch so you cant make crap up),the next he is taking hits from the likes of Namor and not falling out. Wolverine's inconsistant healing factor is not even worth an ounce of anyone's time anymore because the stupid range of what he can take is constantly changed due to the fact that he is overrated. NO ONE REALLY AGREES ON IT ANYMORE.

So lets just discard it?

Well noone agrees on spiderman's knockout ability so lets just discard that too shall we?

Oh, is that bad logic? That's your logic.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Why i waste my keyboard on you is a mystery, since I never said he was only relying on a one punch strategy.

Then why do you defend it so vehemently?

It can obviously override wolverine's healing factor cause noone can agree on it.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You only want to see that because you are in denial of the fact that Spidey has way too many options and hardly relies on his superstrength anyway.

Options that have been shot down before. . . what other options does he have, oh deluded one?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolverine's healing is passive, it is active at its potential, whether he likes it or not. When he was knocked out by a certain bullet, that was his limit.

Oh the movie argument again? Well wolverine doesn't need to worry about it cause Spiderman can't hit with the strength of a bullet, or even hard enough to dislodge doc oc's glasses. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yet you seem to love limiting his pre-cog, which is pretty CONSISTANT and easy to understand I might add.

Consistant enough to take a hit from wolverine, the trantula and to be fouled up by a billyclub from DD? Yeah, that's constant failure. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It's not perfect, but it is enough and combined with his BY FAR SUPREME: agility, speed, and strength ( strength is directly related to speed just so you know)

No it's not. It's possible to be fast and weak just as it's possible to be strong and slow.

The two are not related, though Spiderman does have alot of speed, people the trio have been able to deal with spiderman in the past, but hey lets not argueabout comic book characters in a comic book forum based on comic book characters right?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It is more than enough to evade attacks with relative ease, especially if it is an unplanned fight in a random scenario.

You mean like he dodged ALL of wolverine's attacks in their past battles? Or. . didn't.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Super Strength is not passsive, (I hope I'm not using too big of words for you) he can use it at any measure he wants. YOU IDIOT,

Oh keep flaming me that's good, that shows you're a reall good debator and real good at being polite and inteligent. . .

Especially when he SAID he wasn't holding back.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
there have been many situations where he has held back to only to put a human on his ass, then to stop a train,lift a car, stagger supervillians, crack concrete,(take your pick) So by saying he couldn't knock out this or that while he is holding back AND protecting civillians at the same time proves nothing.

and when he SAID he WAS holding back means nothing to you? That means you're not arguing about MARVEL's spiderman but your own overpowered spiderman. or a severly underpowered wolverine and not marvel's wolverine.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Like I stated earlier. These are incredible and popular characters. Noone would want too see them floored in one punch and spidey is almost never beserk anyway., so using that in a hypothetical argument in a unique scenario where spidey IS going all out is FOOLISH and STUPID.

So when spiderman doesn't hold back (he said he wasn't) he can't knock Wolverine out. so he's going to hopld back in this fight otherwise it'd be foolish and stupid . . . how much better do you think he'd fair?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
When he did go beserk,the only mistake he made was nearly taking a life, don't underestimate him.

Who Daredevil? He went beserk against daredevil.

Or wolverine? He went beserk against wolverine.

And neither character almost died.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wolvie goes beserk, and like all beserk characters, he is HIGHLY AGGRESSIVE and attacks willy nilly, all attacks will be lethal, and burn spideys PRE-COG to where he can react. Seriously you act as if he was stupid enough to trade punches with the trio.

BECAUSE HE HAS. DAMN MAN, go read a comic book that actually has a fight between them.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You are a Spidey hater and like it or not he is a very formidable opponent.

I'm a fanboy spidey hater. I love marvel's character by the same name. But hate this overhyped version of him that the spidey fanboys use rather than Marvel's spiderman.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
An unpulled punch in this scenario is MORE THAN CAPABLE of KO'ing DD and Cap, even killing them.

Have you EVER read a comic book that has a fight between them? a MARVEL comic?

Don't answer that because if you said yes you'd be lieing out your ass.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
This combined with his speed blitz can turn the tide of battle fast and make this battle a joke quickly, but not necessarily. Like it was MENTIONED EARLIER, SPIDEY EASILY HAS THIS IN THE OPEN, THE ONLY CHANCE IS FOR THE TRIO TO CLOSE HIM IN. Imagine That alien vs. marine scenario, they were insanely fast and ferocious, killing you easily. COUPLE THAT WITH SUPER STRENGTH, WEBBING, PRE-COG, AND GREAT INTELLIGENCE, this guy is CAPABLE of getting the job done.

Go read a comic book that has a fight between them. Spiderman has yet to One punch ANY of them.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Without any concussive fighting damage, Spidey still has webbing on his side.

Which as has been stated can be cut by one of the three if he uses it on another one of the three. Heck, Wolvie even broke out of it and tagged spiderman.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Don't even underrate it and say it is weak. It is CONSISTENT fact that a sufficient amount can hold The Thing for life,

Bullshit. It disolves. It's not weak, but it can be cut.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and it has held the likes of:Wolverine,

He's broken out of it reacently as well.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
THing, Hulk, She Hulk, The Rhino, Trains, and too many Characters and items to list here. Web them in the lake, smack them into a car, wall, whatever, limitless options.

or have one of the thre cut. . blah blah. . . but Iguess they're too stupid to try cutting it against the supreme omniscient fanboy spiderman.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
THIS, combined with his master dexterity, coordination, ariel ability, speed, agility, and the basic fact that the ADULT parker has mastered his webbing, allows him to shoot it in fatal-areas Such as the mouth and nostrils, THIS WAS EVENTUALLY AGREED UPON EARLIER.

Which totally negate the trio's abilities. . .🙄

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
This is liquid steel cable you know.

Adamantium > steel
It can be cut.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If you take the time and read this ENTIRE THREAD, you will see indeed that in many ways, the spidey supporters have given enough facts for over 100 pages,

Ignoring points doesn't make you a good debator either. These "facts" have been shot down, and the "facts" brought up by the trio supporters were ignored.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
With the exception of Jinzin, noone has given good arguments, except, he is triple teamed(He's been outnumbered by greater likes than these three)., CAPS THE MASTER STRATEGIST (give me a Reasonable Strategy), or Cap can toss his shield in excess over 200 mph ( Bah, whatever).

Nobody can give good points when the points are ignored.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
On the Iron Man thread, I did agree that Spidey would most likely lose, you ignorant cretin,

Oh! Flaming. . . doesn't make you anyless a fanboy.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I said he ripped it once In the future. Why don't you go read that ENTIRE THREAD,

Why should I? You've proven yourself to be a fanboy by hyping up fanboy spiderman.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
so i don't have to once again reiterate myself, and Make you sound HAVE AS IN DENIAL AND IGNORANT AS YOU ALREADY ARE.

OR you for oh I don't know not knowing anything about the fights between spiderman and any of the individual trio in the comics. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Your arguing technique's take the cake, shits it out, eats the shit, and then pukes it out again. You make no good argument, you only say no he can't or no he won't.

Like your fabulous

"I don't like it so it never happened" defense?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Prove to me why and keep in mind that this scenario hasn't happened so use some brainwork. Until then, don't bother quoting me until you have reread some of the arguments, and post my ENTIRE SAYING, NOT JUST PIECES YOU CHOOSE.

Now you're questioning my posting style?

Pssh. . and you said you've debated inteligently.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Maybe you will then have a decent understanding of how inconsistent Wolvie's power's are.

Or how inconsistant spidey's powers are?

"Wolvie's powers are inconsistant so they don't factor into this fight!"

Yeah you're a teriffic debator[/sarcasm]

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
The trio are excellent, but fare a MUCHO BETTER CHANCE IN UP-CLOSE, TIGHT AREAS, where they can take advantage of his inspecific precog and whack him. Until then it is clobbering time.

Again ignoring points does not make them any less valid.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
PROPS TO ALL THE SPIDEY SUPPORTERS,

A cluster****ing we will go, a cluster ****ing we will go. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
AND thanks to Jinzin and some other trio supporters for being a good debator and looking at more facts than shooting all the opposing one's down. PEACE FOR NOW!!! 💃 💃 💃 💃 💃 🤣

Well you sure suck as a debator. Ignoring points, flaming, picking and chosing what parts of physics you'll listen too. . . and ignoring anything that hurts your side. . .

whobdamandog Restricted

Welcome to the fray Cordera..but as you can see..it's next to impossible for anyone to explain the concepts of "logic" and "reason" when arguing against Fanboys. Their arguments can always be broken down into the three following categories:

1. "All history must be considered" argument..

Description: To the fanboy..this means that all stories that occured in the character's history should be allowed into the debate. This includes rediculous issues where Captain A is shown to take down a full powered Galactus..or DD is able to gauge how fast a space shuttle is moving in outer space by detecting the pulse rates of the crewmembers. These types of arguments are usually easily rebutted, by another equally rediculous argument..(ie But Spider Man beat Firelord, Spidey was rejected by Death..so he can't die..stuff like that)

2. "These are comic book characters..you can't apply logic!!!" argument

Description: Essentially what that Fanboy is trying to imply is that there should be some form of "suspension of disbelief" when reading comic books. What the Fanboy doesn't realize, however, is that there has to be some form of logic even in comic books, or else there would be no standard for them to debate by.

3. "Stats do not count!!" argument..

Description: This essentially means that the Fanboy doesn't agree with how the comic book companies define a character and their abilities in handbooks/guidebooks/etc. Argument 1 is usually used to support this by demonstrating characters doing things that their stats don't list them being able to do, in 1 or 2 comic books. Usually these examples are taken from "what if" comics, company crossovers, or stories written by John Byrne, J Michael Bendis, or other continuity wrecking comic book writers.

Once you realize and are able to define that these 3 types of arguments are being used by the person you are debating with, you can identify them as a "FANBOY", and as I generally do..leave the thread, and expend your energy/knowledge in other topics/forumns..

Hope this helps you out a bit....