Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Don't say that who kid, you will become a worshipper of the omniscient Spiderman.

As far as Cap goes, he is becoming like Bats in a sense because he just can, and has that shield to use as defense.

Webbing makes for a SUPREME defensive and offensive weapon, He can instantly manipulate this into A protective shield or dome, A mionor invisible woman feat, gloves, impact balls, direct it into cavities.etc.

And as far as Wolverine's healing goes, I'm reading blockbuster right now in the library,an X-Men magazine with Wolverine, DD, and Spidey, Wolvie was set up in an explosion, and it took him 2 days for him to heal, while in spidey's basement. Peter comes in and hits him with a broom thinking it was an intruder, and Wolvie felt it sure enough. Sorry with the delays graduation practice.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And was spiderman holding back with his strength?

Fact is : Spider-Man didn't use half of his powers and DD only wanted to survive (his words).

Case closed. And now I'm going to bowl.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Case closed. And now I'm going to bowl.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Don't say that who kid, you will become a worshipper of the omniscient Spiderman.

As far as Cap goes, he is becoming like Bats in a sense because he just can, and has that shield to use as defense.

Webbing makes for a SUPREME defensive and offensive weapon, He can instantly manipulate this into A protective shield or dome, A mionor invisible woman feat, gloves, impact balls, direct it into cavities.etc.

And as far as Wolverine's healing goes, I'm reading blockbuster right now in the library,an X-Men magazine with Wolverine, DD, and Spidey, Wolvie was set up in an explosion, and it took him 2 days for him to heal, while in spidey's basement. Peter comes in and hits him with a broom thinking it was an intruder, and Wolvie felt it sure enough. Sorry with the delays graduation practice.

When have I disregarded anything, I have considered both sides and just did so with merc. I disagreed with daredevil being the weak link and everything, READ MORE THAN JUST WHAT YOU WANT TO WHEN YOU POST. I am using everything that Spidey is capable of, and are you are saying is the power of the hits. They cant keep up with him when he's trying, they have slower reflexes, no pre hit detection, weaker, less arial ability, less overall intelligence, ( the list goes on and on.)

Despite that you dance around all of these, and debate one punches because they haven't happened. Use some brainwork show how the other teams strengths will beat spidey's strengths ( I LISTED SOME OF THEM ABOVE TO SAVE YOU SOME TROUBLE) I could pull out that spidey has broken concrete and everything else and he was not going all out, when someone is hypnotizing another, they hardly know all max abilities at the start. NO good judgement, NO passion to "go all out", no necessary will to survive, he wasn't webbing around, or dodgiing, That hit trading could have easily been replaced with a web and a slam.

You 😄 😄 🙂 😄

Originally posted by Creshosk
Your strawman arguments are ridiculous. You exagerate our claims and then debate those leaving our actual arguments alone:

One entry found for straw man.

Main Entry: straw man
Function: noun
1 : a weak or imaginary opposition (as an argument or adversary) set up only to be easily confuted
2 : a person set up to serve as a cover for a usually questionable transaction

lol..well you learn something new everday.. 🙄

Anyway...let me define a word for you...one which you don't seem to understand..

Main Entry: discontinuity("non-continuity" in lamans terms)
Function: noun

definition: A break or gap..

I don't think you get the fact that this is an non - continuity based scenario. Meaning that this scenario is discontinous with what has happened in the comic book world. I believe this was made quite obvious from the beginning of this thread, seeing as how 3 of the combatants..rarely go for the kill or use the full extent of their abilities in normal comic book "continuity"...vous comprenz?

This shows that you didn't even understand the reaon why those examples were shown in the first place.

I understood..but those "examples" have been easily rebutted on multiple occasions by siting similar logic(ie Spidey beat Red Skull, Spidey beat Sabretooth, Spidey defeated the X-men..Spidey webbed up Wolverine with the slightest of ease..) Arguing like this creates a rather circular debate..which as you can see..is almost impossible to bring to the point of closure.

Spiderman was hypnotized. thus not fighting in character, thus not holding back.

Moot point....he was kind of like a zombie..not really in control of his actions/movements..etc. If he had been using his webbing, agility, speed, spider sense, tactical skill etc..it would have been a bloodbath..he wasn't doing so in this particular story however...

I guess the only way that spiderman can win is by discarding things that have happened, Multiple times, being powered up or depowering his opponents.

Or by handling them in the same way that he handled the X-men, Sinister Six, Syndicate Sinister, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Firelord, Sabretooth, Red Skull, X factor, Superboy, Iron Man 2020, Sentinel, Morlun, etc..etc..etc..etc...as I said...that type of argument is a circular one and is very easily rebutted...

What's more likely to be a ridiculous argument?

Well all of the arguments you Trio supporters have given have been pretty ridiculous..however some have just been more ridiculous than others...I'm still waiting for a logical scenario as to how the Trio would pull this off..

It is you who can't handle the truth, so you must discard it, pick and choose what suits you or invent your own.

The truth is that you have done nothing to provide anyone on this thread with a "logical" explanation as to why they would win based on the stipulations of this "non - continuity" based scenario..and no amount of Wolvie scratched Spidey one time, DD has taken shots from the Hulk, or Cap doesn't tire arguments are going to convince me otherwise...

"The truth is that you have done nothing to provide anyone on this thread with a "logical" explanation as to why they would win based on the stipulations of this "non - continuity" based scenario..and no amount of Wolvie scratched Spidey one time, DD has taken shots from the Hulk, or Cap doesn't tire arguments are going to convince me otherwise... [/B][/QUOTE] "

Amen brotha, I'm still waiting for that one, all I get is the argument of a one-punch not working, A "reasonable" scenario is just too much to ask for.

And yes I am debating strength period, Cresh!!

Healing factor is passive, like a heart beat, its on whether you like it or not, you can make your heart beat faster, but in that same way everytime, it does what it does the best it does. Wolvie's factor is always on, he can't turn it off, and what knocks him out, knocks him out.

Strength is active. You can adjust that at will. Just because I lifted a milk jug doesn't mean thats all i can lift. When desperate times call I could lift the back of a car to save someone from being crushed to death.

If spidey wants to simply apprehend a guy with a gun, he WILL NOT USE the same strength he would use fighting to the death with the firelord,or stopping a train, car, tank.And even at max, strength, max velocity at 100+ MPH from a distance is just nasty. This makes perfect sense. 🤣

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Props to Strawnilla! I know they keep negating powers of Spidey when they would be overwhelmed like a marine vs. an alien, or 3 HUMANS vs. a Beserk Polar Bear, like I mentioned earlier 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
You keep iupsizing his powers. Or downsizing his opponents. . .

"Without his TK" Why the hell would you even mention that? Of course he's going to have his TK.

So is the only way spidey can win is by negating his opponents powers?

You brush off anything that you don't like as PiS/Cis.

My mocking of you was not mocvking, its exactly the way you aregue, if the events in the comics don't happen the way you think they should they're obviously PIS/CIS.

And you talk about how I "brush off" things I don't like as PIS/CIS, yet, when you see Batman or DD or Cap or Wolvie doing something dead on their physical capacity and it turns out not to be of a level greater or even equal to anything Spidey could do on his worst day you'll go on to use an example of Batman or DD or Cap or Wolvie doing something redicoulously beyond their physical capacity to dispute it in hopes that the example will go ignored to support your fanboyish dilusions.

I'm through arguing this with you, go ahead, say DD can kick through the Baxter building, I don't care. I'll dispute it, but I won't allow you to insult my intelligence by doing anything more. This debate has gone from using, at least, decent arguments on both sides to having the side arguing the trio's case resorting to claims of Cap, DD, and Wolvie performing superhuman feats like it's an everyday thing.

Straw, guess what Wolverine has superhuman strength, and Batman can hit harder than spiderman.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
lol..well you learn something new everday.. 🙄

Anyway...let me define a word for you...one which you don't seem to understand..

Main Entry: discontinuity("non-continuity" in lamans terms)
Function: noun

definition: A break or gap..

I don't think you get the fact that this is an non - continuity based scenario. Meaning that this scenario is discontinous with what has happened in the comic book world. I believe this was made quite obvious from the beginning of this thread, seeing as how 3 of the combatants..rarely go for the kill or use the full extent of their abilities in normal comic book "continuity"...vous comprenz?

Gotcha, you don't want t oargue from the comics about comic book heros in a comic book forum.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
I understood..but those "examples" have been easily rebutted on multiple occasions by siting similar logic(ie Spidey beat Red Skull, Spidey beat Sabretooth, Spidey defeated the X-men..Spidey webbed up Wolverine with the slightest of ease..) Arguing like this creates a rather circular debate..which as you can see..is almost impossible to bring to the point of closure.

Walk up to a bear slap him once and then walk away, thinking "I just totally kicked that bear's ass!

Likewise you think you rebutted those examples, but that is entirly within your own mind.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Moot point....he was kind of like a zombie..not really in control of his actions/movements..etc. If he had been using his webbing, agility, speed, spider sense, tactical skill etc..it would have been a bloodbath..he wasn't doing so in this particular story however...

Hypntotized: Not himself, so he wouldn't have the things he normally has such as agility, spider sense, webbing, morals etc.

But suddenly he has the thing that keeps him from using his full strength, he still has his morals, even though he's obviously not fighting in character. You can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Or by handling them in the same way that he handled the X-men, Sinister Six, Syndicate Sinister, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Firelord, Sabretooth, Red Skull, X factor, Superboy, Iron Man 2020, Sentinel, Morlun, etc..etc..etc..etc...as I said...that type of argument is a circular one and is very easily rebutted...

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Well all of the arguments you Trio supporters have given have been pretty ridiculous..however some have just been more ridiculous than others...I'm still waiting for a logical scenario as to how the Trio would pull this off..

Originally posted by whobdamandog
The truth is that you have done nothing to provide anyone on this thread with a "logical"

Afterall you're the one that strawmaned and was serious about it. 🙂

Originally posted by whobdamandog
explanation as to why they would win based on the stipulations of this "non - continuity" based scenario..and no amount of Wolvie scratched Spidey one time,

Originally posted by whobdamandog
DD has taken shots from the Hulk, or Cap doesn't tire arguments are going to convince me otherwise...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Amen brotha, I'm still waiting for that one, all I get is the argument of a one-punch not working, A "reasonable" scenario is just too much to ask for.

And yes I am debating strength period, Cresh!!

Healing factor is passive, like a heart beat, its on whether you like it or not, you can make your heart beat faster, but in that same way everytime, it does what it does the best it does. Wolvie's factor is always on, he can't turn it off, and what knocks him out, knocks him out.

Strength is active. You can adjust that at will. Just because I lifted a milk jug doesn't mean thats all i can lift.

When desperate times call I could lift the back of a car to save someone from being crushed to death.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If spidey wants to simply apprehend a guy with a gun, he WILL NOT USE the same strength he would use fighting to the death with the firelord,or stopping a train, car, tank.And even at max, strength, max velocity at 100+ MPH from a distance is just nasty. This makes perfect sense. 🤣

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Straw, guess what Wolverine has superhuman strength, and Batman can hit harder than spiderman.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Straw, guess what Wolverine has superhuman strength,

Lol, in the batman vs Spiderman thread someone called Wolverine superhuman in order to defeat the argument "Maybe just maybe peak humans can survive superhuman shots of spiderman's range."

And Jinzin was right "That's not what they say in the Spidey vs Trio thread"

Let me ask you how much do you have to lift to be considered superhuman? 🙂

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Main Entry: discontinuity("non-continuity" in lamans terms)
Function: noun

definition: A break or gap..

Case 1: stays concious.
Case 2: stays concious
Case 3: stays concious
Case 4: get's knocked out.

Which of those is the discontinuity? 🙂

Dude if you are arguing the difference between a peak human and a superhuman you REALLY NEED to read this entire thread, that's been confirmed too many times, and you have yet to show a scenario. Only your tired one punch theory.

Dude if you are arguing the difference between a peak human and a superhuman you REALLY NEED to read this entire thread, that's been confirmed too many times, and you have yet to show a scenario. Only your tired one punch theory. 📖

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Dude if you are arguing the difference between a peak human and a superhuman you REALLY NEED to read this entire thread, that's been confirmed too many times, and you have yet to show a scenario. Only your tired one punch theory. 📖

All I'm saying is that Wolverine can't be knocked out by a spidey punch. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Gotcha,

Sure did..Captain America/DD/Spider Man are always fight at the peak of their abilities and going for the kill in the Comic Books... 🙄

you don't want t oargue from the comics about comic book heros in a comic book forum.

Never said I didn't want to debate comic books though..you kind of lost me on that one..

Walk up to a bear slap him once and then walk away, thinking "I just totally kicked that bear's ass!

And this proves your argument in what way..funny line though..

Likewise you think you rebutted those examples, but that is entirly within your own mind.

Yes your right Spider Man webbing up Wolverine, Dodging bullets, Bouncing around the Hulk, KO'ing the Hulk, Defeating Firelord, Defeating Morlun, humiliating the FF, making the X-men look like fools, Defeating Sabretooth, Defeating the Sinister Six, Making DD run for his life, Defeating the Red Skull, Beating Juggernaut, defeating Luke Cage(in an early issue), taking down Titania, Knocking off a sentinel's head with his fist, Breaking steel doors with his fists, lifting cars and tanks, jumping 3 stories in the air, Sensing oponents attacks before they are able to hit him, stopping moving trains, sticking to walls, Humiliating Namor, Defeating Iron Man 2020, Defeating the DD Foe Gladiator with ease, Taking on the Silver Surfer, Beating Rhino with his fists...

All this stuff is in my mind..none of this ever happened in the comic books..🙄

Yup totally ignore my point about the strength. Once again picking and choosing what information you want to use:

Your right..man..even though Spidey was hypnotized..and wasn't using his webbing, speed, agility, spider - sense, tactical skill, I've completely ignored the fact that these things would not in anyway change the course of that battle with DD. And they won't in anyway help him in this debate scenario..where he will be able to use all of his powers/abilities to their fullest..🙄

Hypntotized: Not himself, so he wouldn't have the things he normally has such as agility, spider sense, webbing, morals etc.

But suddenly he has the thing that keeps him from using his full strength, he still has his morals, even though he's obviously not fighting in character. You can't have it both ways.

Uhh..you kind of lost me there...but yes he was hypnotized..I think it's quite a bit different fighting someone 'hypnotized" as opposed to fighting someone who has complete mental/physical control of themselves..🙄

Because he's done this and this he obviously can negate other things that happened, and without showing these things either. 🙂

No only you and the other Trio supporters have that ability..you also have the incredible ability to not be able to come up with any "logical" scenarios to support you position..lol...

You'll never get one that suits to your tastes as anything that shows spiderman in a bad light is "bad writing.". 😉

Afterall you're the one that strawmaned and was serious about it. 🙂

I'll just take one from you on this one and say

No, just nothing you think is logical.

At least three times. 🙂 Once in each of the different fights they had. Though one was even an accident.

Yes and SM webbed Wolvie up more than one time..and slapped him away like a little boitch more than one time..blah..blah..blah....We can go at this forever...what's your point?

Of course not, blinded by fanboyism you refuse to see the other side. 🙂

Sure am..your fanboyistic views of the Trio have shinned so bright in this thread..I'm barely able to even see any logic or truth behind them anymore... 😆 😆 😆

Alright I'm going to jet for now..Creshrok just proven rule 1 and 3..I now realize my defeat..🙄 Peace out hommes...