"Yes your right Spider Man webbing up Wolverine,"
circumstantial....look below...
" Dodging bullets,"
all 4 of these guys do that...
" Bouncing around the Hulk,"
oh you mean like wolverine has, or like DD did, or how about when cap did?
" KO'ing the Hulk,"
ummmmm you are aware wolverine's nearly killed the hulk right? not only that but given him a hell of a fight every time they've gone toe to toe with AND without adamantium....unlike spidey who either just gets his ass beat on, or runs away the whole time...
" Defeating Firelord,"
after a building fell on him and he ran headfirst into an explosion that leveled a city black....
"Defeating Morlun,"
oh yes morlun...the guy we all know next to nothing about.....oh and what's his weakness? RADIATION.......wow guess that absorbing spiderman ain't a good idea....but when batman beats up on superman with krytonite...or in the red room...etc...."IT DOESN'T COUNT".....pffft
"humiliating the FF,"
humiliating? ummmm no......the FF were trying to figure out what was going on while spiderman ran around like an ass......I even posted the fight for you.....see for yourself...he was about to get clobbered when he booked ass out of there...
"making the X-men look like fools,"
ok so when dd gives spiderman a hard time it doesn't count because in your eyes (despite the fact that he was trying to inflict harm on DD and take him down), spiderman was only trying to subdue him....but when the x-men are clearly CLEARLY only trying to stop spiderman and not using the full extent of their powers...it does count? 😕
hipocracy at it's best I suppose.......anyway....once again wolverine's done this on several occasions against a team of x-men that were trying to actually take him out.....
"Defeating Sabretooth,"
a feat which both wolvie and dd have done......oh wait you're reffering to spectacular spiderman 116 right? the one waaaay before sabe's established powers and strength were even written into his character right? totally disregarding the second time they met up after sabretooth had become a more established character and "humiliated" punisher and spider man at the same time...even having spidey by the throat right?
" Defeating the Sinister Six,"
with help or prep....not by himself on the fly...
"Making DD run for his life,"
like wolverine's had spiderman scared for his?
" Defeating the Red Skull,"
like cap does regularly?
" Beating Juggernaut,"
ooooooh he got him stuck in cement....way to go!
" defeating Luke Cage(in an early issue),"
"taking down Titania,"
cause none of the trio could ever do that...
" Knocking off a sentinel's head with his fist,"
Knocking of a sentinals head with his claws (wolvie)
" Breaking steel doors with his fists,"
claws again.....if we're gonna start talking about destroying steel stuff....wolverine takes this one....
" lifting cars and tanks,"
YAY! spiderman can lift weights....that obviously assures him victory here!......
" jumping 3 stories in the air,"
like wolverine can?
" Sensing oponents attacks before they are able to hit him,"
like daredevil can?
" stopping moving trains,"
I defer to weight lifting sarcasm here....
" sticking to walls,"
well if that's not an offensive power I don't know what is.....
"Humiliating Namor,"
again...humiliating? nu-uh.....I'm going to assume you haven't read this comic either.......anyways.....cap's taken down namor with pressure points....wolverine's done so with two shots to the body, even daredevil's gone toe to toe with namor and held his own....
" Defeating Iron Man 2020,"
beating up on an inexperienced iron man who didn't want to fight in the first place....yeah that's a good analogy....
" Defeating the DD Foe Gladiator with ease,"
like how cap defeated scorpion with ease....or how daredevil took down doc ock or how both him and wolverine held their own against venom withoug help or sonics or fire?
" Taking on the Silver Surfer,"
😂 if you honestly believe that's a good example you just proved your hipocracy.....he fought a silver surfer who wasn't fighting back due to his hostile invasion by a symbiote spiderman started beating up on a guy that was basically trying to fight himself in the first place....hahahaha
" Beating Rhino with his fists..."
please...rhino's next to retarded....even an inexperienced greengoblin (good guy version) beat up on rhino...the same goblin that was scared out of his wits by daredevil......
anyways...you keep bringing up these examples as if they actually mean something in this fight....you're expecting us to take into account ALL of spiderman's high end showings...despite circumstances etc etc.....yet you totally ignore all the DIRECT COMPARISONS where the characters in this thread have actually fought it out........how about every fight where wolverine's tagged spidey....we all agree claws out...all he needs is one good swipe......until PROVEN OTHERWISE.....things don't look good for the wall crawler...